For those interested in old cars.

[Hobby]

1 hour ago, PhilJ W said:

That was a 2.4 litre and couldn't pull the skin off of a rice pudding.

 

and was a rust bucket I believe.

[Hobby]

From the Honest John forum:

 

"John Thaw hated the car in the series as it was so unreliable although Thaw was a Jag owner in real life.
Apparently the car was regularly pushed into scenes in early series because it wouldn't start!
The car was a heap when it was last sold"

[Rugd1022]

13 hours ago, monkeysarefun said:

This old thing has been parked up outside a mechanic shop down town for donkeys years. 

 

 

Except for a bit of rot in the front guard it doesn't  look to be in too bad nick.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apart from the steel wheels and hub caps, that is exactly like the one I used to see parked outside the flat I lived in in Cromwell Avenue, Hammersmith in the '80s, it was just as scruffy but in daily use and sounded rather fruity. It had painted wire wheels and spinners which were a tad rusty and the whole car oozed West London villainy from every pore.

 

At least two or three times a year I get a deep seated urge to buy a Mk2, S-Type or 420 - the pilgrimage to the two big shows at the NEC every year don't really help!

 

This is the current screensaver pic on my PC...

 

 

Talking of Jags, this morning coming out of the car park at Toddington on the Glos & Warks line there was an early '80s XJ-S V12 in an unusual shade of green which sounded wonderful as it drove away.

 

 

[alastairq]

4 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

That was a 2.4 litre and couldn't pull the skin off of a rice pudding.

 Filmset canteen rice puddings doubtless were notorious for their tenacity...

[Sidecar Racer]

22 hours ago, BernardTPM said:

I agree. It's got to be a mish-mash of assorted FE/VX parts.

 

A registration check says it's a 1973 Victor but can't agree whether whether has the original 2279cc (2300) or a 3297cc (3.3) engine!

 

 This is on DVLA .

 

Vehicle Details

Vehicle make

VAUXHALL

 

Date of first registration   July 1973

Year of manufacture  1973

Cylinder capacity  3297 cc

 

 

CO₂ emissions

Not available

Fuel type

PETROL

Euro status

Not available

Real Driving Emissions (RDE)

Not available

Export marker

No

Vehicle status

Taxed

Vehicle colour

GREEN

Vehicle type approval

Not available

Wheelplan

2 AXLE RIGID BODY

Revenue weight

Not available

Date of last V5C (logbook) issued

12 February 2024

[BernardTPM]

So very subtly different to this. It seems DVLC won't commit to it being either a Victor or a Ventora.

[PatB]

5 hours ago, BernardTPM said:

So very subtly different to this. It seems DVLC won't commit to it being either a Victor or a Ventora.

IIRC there has never been a slot on the V5 for the model name. Just make and engine capacity.

[PhilJ W]

In fact two engine sizes are stated, 2.3 litre and 3.3 litre. The best way to confirm would be to look under the bonnet.

[Dunsignalling]

15 hours ago, PatB said:

IIRC there has never been a slot on the V5 for the model name. Just make and engine capacity.

There has been, since at least October 2018, when I bought my present car, and it's very comprehensive. The current form is now a V5C.

 

I quote:

 

MAKE:  SKODA

MODEL: YETI  ELEGANCE TDI  CR170 

 

I'd think it's necessary in order to indicate which taxation group a vehicle falls into, and would presumably have come into use when that began to be calculated on CO2 emissions rather than engine capacity.

 

However, I would expect that field to be left blank on forms relating to vehicles predating that change. 

 

John

Edited July 7 by Dunsignalling

[Dunsignalling]

15 hours ago, PatB said:

IIRC there has never been a slot on the V5 for the model name. Just make and engine capacity.

 

51 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

In fact two engine sizes are stated, 2.3 litre and 3.3 litre. The best way to confirm would be to look under the bonnet.

 

The upper description should be what's on record at the DVLC of the vehicle as first registered, and the two capacities would normally match.

 

I would therefore interpret the information on the MoT to describe a Victor that's subsequently been fitted with a Ventora engine.

 

Hope they swapped the front springs too! 😉

 

Edited July 7 by Dunsignalling

[Sidecar Racer]

 

 The info on DVLA site seems to be just information that does not  need to go into full details of model ,

I think the idea is that it provides enough for someone to report an abandoned car or one that has been

parked on the road for a while .

 

The model  does show on the V5C though , mine is a 2011 year Seat and the model is shown .

[Erichill16]

Went to a local classic car show on Sunday. Plenty to see despite the weather but a couple of less common types.

I didn’t get a brochure detailing the entrants but apparently this is a replica Ferrari but a mighty fine one.

 

 

[Erichill16]

And I think the other is an Ogle SX1000. (Or another reproduction!)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogle_SX1000

 

 

[Rugd1022]

18 hours ago, Erichill16 said:

And I think the other is an Ogle SX1000. (Or another reproduction!)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogle_SX1000

 

 

 

Definitely the real Mini based McCoy, and very nice it is too. The Mk1 Cosmic alloys on it are particularly nice.

 

Talking of Minis, here's John Surtees picking up his shiny new Mk1 Austin Cooper from John Cooper's garage in Surbiton...

 

 

The premises is now a Porsche specialist!

 

 

 

 

[doilum]

Reproductions? 

[alastairq]

19 hours ago, Erichill16 said:

And I think the other is an Ogle SX1000. (Or another reproduction!)

I think, if DVLA is to be believed, the Ogle is a real Ogle.

 

The NC [built using the original moulds] came onto the market in 2010.

 

Mind, checking its MoT details, it seems that it was [first?] tested in 2013, with 13 miles on the clock.

 

So it is possible the details have been 'altered' to reflect a 'real' Ogle, rather than the much later NC.  {From ''Nostalgia Cars'']

[Oldddudders]

3 minutes ago, alastairq said:

I think, if DVLA is to be believed, the Ogle is a real Ogle.

 

The NC [built using the original moulds] came onto the market in 2010.

 

Mind, checking its MoT details, it seems that it was [first?] tested in 2013, with 13 miles on the clock.

 

So it is possible the details have been 'altered' to reflect a 'real' Ogle, rather than the much later NC.  {From ''Nostalgia Cars'']

It seems to think it is entitled to a 1960s non-reflective numberplate.

[alastairq]

1 hour ago, Oldddudders said:

It seems to think it is entitled to a 1960s non-reflective numberplate.

 Registered 1961....

 

I just surmised, using the odd MoT test results.

[alastairq]

That mini cooper is still on the books, currently SORNed...

Very close reg number to the Ogle, too

[westernfan]

22 hours ago, alastairq said:

Very close reg number to the Ogle, too

Both first registered in Surrey. PD = Surrey CC prior to 1974. Guildford after then)

[Oldddudders]

Standing awaiting a 22 bus in Babbacombe this morning, a Ford GT40 came past. There are not-a-few replicas, of course, although they still often represent pretty impressive engineering to hold a decent-size engine amidships. However, as per the last discussion re Ogle, this red vehicle had a 1966 D-suffix reg plate of the original sort. I recall that in Autumn 1965 Ford announced that GT40s would be made to order for road use, I did see a couple at least in the subsequent few years, and am inclined to think that is what I saw today. 

[PatB]

6 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

Standing awaiting a 22 bus in Babbacombe this morning, a Ford GT40 came past. There are not-a-few replicas, of course, although they still often represent pretty impressive engineering to hold a decent-size engine amidships. However, as per the last discussion re Ogle, this red vehicle had a 1966 D-suffix reg plate of the original sort. I recall that in Autumn 1965 Ford announced that GT40s would be made to order for road use, I did see a couple at least in the subsequent few years, and am inclined to think that is what I saw today. 

Rather famously, Noel Edmonds owned (perhaps still owns) one.

[doilum]

There are far more replicas than originals.  Replicas are easy to identify as the standard of finish is far better than the original competition cars.

[Richard E]

With talk of old cars and replicas this is now just shy of 25 years old, it's 'stablemate' in my garage was 52 earlier this year.

 

Got it back on the road this week after 15 years of somnolence in a garage. Needs a couple of minor bits doing but the MOT was 'clean'. Originally built for motorsport use hence the wheels (coffinspokes are around £1000 a rim) and a couple of other 'tweaks' compared to a genuine car. It has an Alfa 3 litre V6 12V in the back. It is, however, very unlikely to see a rally special stage again due to the very high costs of seats, belts and PPE.

 

Edited July 13 by Richard E

[Rugd1022]

On 10/07/2024 at 19:30, Oldddudders said:

Standing awaiting a 22 bus in Babbacombe this morning, a Ford GT40 came past. There are not-a-few replicas, of course, although they still often represent pretty impressive engineering to hold a decent-size engine amidships. However, as per the last discussion re Ogle, this red vehicle had a 1966 D-suffix reg plate of the original sort. I recall that in Autumn 1965 Ford announced that GT40s would be made to order for road use, I did see a couple at least in the subsequent few years, and am inclined to think that is what I saw today. 

 

A lot of GT40 replicas / continuation cars are factory built these days, although some owners do still choose the self build route. Tornado Sportscars based in Kidderminster supply owners of real GT40s with body panels and their own GT40 is one of the best around for the money. Gelscoe and Superformance are probably the very best right now, they are both built in exactly the same way as the '60s originals with steel or aluminium monocoques whilst most of the replicas on offer have a spaceframe chassis. IIRC, the Gelscoe version costs c.£400k, the Superformance version costs c.£200k while the Tornado version (available with their own take on the monocoque centre section) is c.£80k for a fully built car. There's also the more recently introduced 'AK40' version from AK Sportscars for c.£145k which uses a spaceframe chassis. Having looked very closely at some Tornado GT40s I'd definitely go with them if I had the dosh, the detailing is very good indeed and they continue to develop their GT40 every year.

 

A few years ago I was coming back along the A45 from the NEC classic show in fading light when I heard the most thunderous noise behind me, seconds later three GT40s went growling past me at astonishing speed, all replicas no doubt but they left a huge impression on me nonetheless.

 

Given the chance I'd go for a replica of one of the of road going Mk1 GT40s in a monotone colour with no stripes or race numbers etc, despatched from FAV in Slough in December 1966, these are the cars you mentioned announced by Ford in the Autumn of 1965, there were thirty three in all...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 13 by Rugd1022