Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 12 hours ago, MrWolf said: I don't know to be honest. I sold it to a Paul Hudson from Shirebrook Notts. The wooden flooring was shot but the metalwork was very good, even under the back seat. Apparently grilles are a nightmare to find, probably why mine was stolen. Would you remember what year was it built, was it a standard (metal dash) or deluxe (wood dash) car. The early grilles probably are whereas the later ones not so. Several of mine have gone, UTW 58 lives on, i think its a show winner now, i sold it in late eighties. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Very nice indeed. 1949 and tin dash board to answer your questions. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 19/05/2021 at 18:37, boxbrownie said: Depends whether she is moaning or had Brussel sprouts for dinner When mother in law passed! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 13 hours ago, MrWolf said: I don't know to be honest. I sold it to a Paul Hudson from Shirebrook Notts. The wooden flooring was shot but the metalwork was very good, even under the back seat. Apparently grilles are a nightmare to find, probably why mine was stolen. The original one piece grilles were brass, the later two piece aluminium. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 IIRC it was chromed brass and definitely one piece, arranged to hinge forward I think. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I think my love of Jowetts was because dad was a partner in radio/tv shop in Cliftonville and they had a Bradford van in 1948. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) I do like the vans and if I had the money / room etc.... A good 25 years ago I shovelled up the remains of three Bradford vans (one had been a shooting brake with 1940s holiday coach styling) A chap from Towyn bought the spares for the van that had been the hack for his family's hotel from new. Edited May 21, 2021 by MrWolf Typing with hind paws again... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, MrWolf said: IIRC it was chromed brass and definitely one piece, arranged to hinge forward I think. The upper grille on the later one hinged from the top to allow you to top up the fluids easily. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 That can't be more amusing than spark plug access on the Bradford. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) i recall......many years ago now, encountering a Jowett special on one of the Classic Reliability trials [the title of the type of event. Has nothing to do with 'classics' as society now knows them, but everything to do with the event format] I think I first came across it somewhere on a trial in Staffordshire? The owner, a gent of advanced years [like my ignition?], had a pile of leftovers which were Jowett Bradford, with some pre-Wawer thrown in for good measure. He had decided that, rather then languishing in a heap at the bottom of his garden, he would throw together the bits to make a 'special' to go trialling with, amongst other things.[not for picnicking at gucci classic car shows, however] In other words, when one has some sort of Jowett chassis, a Jowett engine [Bradford Vee-twin], some sort f Jowett gearbox, and another sort of Jowett axle, what more did one need? For trialling, he found his chassis a bit long on the wheelbase [short wheelbases help coping with the rough stuff, and steering.] The Bradford engine was a bit low on power, but kept going and struggled to stall. It had a bonnet, some mudguards, a couple of seats, and some rear storage [oh, and a petrol tank!]....with somewhere to secure two spare wheels.. & that was it! I cannot recall if he'd splashed out much on paint, either. But, I, for one, loved it. It puttered up the sections sometimes successfully, often not....but that didn't seem to matter. Fast it was not. Possibly scary if one tried too hard? But, who cared? [My Cannon, on Ford sidevalve power, struggled to get over 50 mph! All to do with engine revs, nothing to do with bhp! Geared to climb the side of a house, not impress young 20-somethings in their Audis. It went faster with a Marina 1275cc engine in it, but kept breaking the Midget gearbox..BMC 1st gears were very weak] The fact was, he got viable usage out of the bits, had enjoyable days out not having to make nice impressions. Nowadays, everybody is in love with 'values'.....Money? It sickens me! Edited May 21, 2021 by alastairq 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 20/05/2021 at 10:27, boxbrownie said: Is that a 2CV based “7” behind it? Long time ago now, was it called a Locust or something like that? Lomas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted May 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Joseph_Pestell said: Lomas Lomax.......yes was based on the 2CV 3 and 4 wheeler but didn’t look like a Lotus Seven at the rear, had a sort of boat tail as I recall. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, MrWolf said: That can't be more amusing than spark plug access on the Bradford. Am I right in thinking that Jowetts had a flat-four "boxer" engine (very advanced for its time}? Another flat-four, the Citroen GS was also difficult for spark plug replacement. Three were OK for access but the fourth, right back near the bulkhead was really difficult without a special tool which only Citroen garages had. The thread on mine got stripped by someone cross-threading when putting the spark plug in resulting in a very tiresome repair. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Joseph_Pestell said: Am I right in thinking that Jowetts had a flat-four "boxer" engine (very advanced for its time}? Yes they did......in the cars [Javelin & Jupiter] In the Bradford vans, and most pre-war Jowetts, they had a vee flat twin engine. Edited May 21, 2021 by alastairq Sorry, was thinking of something else, and the auto thingy kicked in.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2021 I thought the Bradford vans had a flat twin engine? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Sorry, thought I was typing flat..obviously my PC had other ideas... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Todays spotted on a delivery 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 hours ago, MrWolf said: That can't be more amusing than spark plug access on the Bradford. I think changing a bypass hose on a mini came close, difficult enough with the convoluted ones, impossible if not. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Captain Cuttle said: The original one piece grilles were brass, the later two piece aluminium. From info from JCC , your car was a 1950 deluxe, chassis no. EO/PB/7227D reg to a Mr R.F.Kyle last seen 2001. Described as condition 2 [off road]. It could still be lurking as the older Javelins were made from a thicker gauge of steel and more robust. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, peanuts said: Todays spotted on a delivery Are they Rostyle wheels? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 19/05/2021 at 21:23, peanuts said: Came across this beautey whilst on a delivery today 240 or 340 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cuttle Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 hours ago, PhilJ W said: I thought the Bradford vans had a flat twin engine? Yes, even the stillborn CD range was to have a ioe twin engine. I think it would have been underpowered for a vehicle the size of a Ford Consul. The prototype i owned in the eighties was an estate car CD 10 (JKU 945) and the only survivor in this country. Now unfortunately in the hands of a recluse unlikely to ever be seen again. They produced a car, a pickup truck an estate car and ten Pilot run estate car/vans. These were never sold but several were shipped to New Zealand in 1954 after Jowett ceased as a manufacturer. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Captain Cuttle said: Are they Rostyle wheels? yes or very very similar from a P5b Edited May 21, 2021 by peanuts 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Captain Cuttle said: From info from JCC , your car was a 1950 deluxe, chassis no. EO/PB/7227D reg to a Mr R.F.Kyle last seen 2001. Described as condition 2 [off road]. It could still be lurking as the older Javelins were made from a thicker gauge of steel and more robust. Come to think of it, it did have the wooden dash, a very pale tan colour. I have had several cars (Austin Eight comes to mind) where the tin dashboard and window surrounds were painted and grained to look like wood. The seats and floor boards were pretty much thrown inside when I got it. I sold it after the parts got stolen, I'm certain from the way that they were removed, they weren't taken for scrap. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Captain Cuttle said: Are they Rostyle wheels? They were a favourite with the banger boys, who nearly saw off all Farinas. There's a few well looked after Austin Westminsters running around on them too, usually belonging to ex racers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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