alastairq Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Richard E said: Could that be the awful driving standards that seem to prevail nowadays ... D'you know, I'm not so sure today's driving standards are actually any worse than they ever used to be? Just, perhaps, a bit more ''in-yer-face'' about it? The sheer numbers out there driving suggests to me there may be an awful lot more unlicensed 'drivers' [or, banned drivers?] on the roads? More likley to get away with it too? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted March 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, alastairq said: D'you know, I'm not so sure today's driving standards are actually any worse than they ever used to be? Just, perhaps, a bit more ''in-yer-face'' about it? The sheer numbers out there driving suggests to me there may be an awful lot more unlicensed 'drivers' [or, banned drivers?] on the roads? More likley to get away with it too? I think it’s more that back “in the day” every car was a bit “unstable/whoops” if driven a bit enthusiastically (ok there were a few exceptions) and every driver was wary of it, having usually experienced a near death cornering mishap or pant staining braking issue......and thus every car was driven with caution in the back of the drivers mind, today with even the worst cars handle reasonably (well actually pretty much very safely) safely and the driver assistance system taking over in extremis and making the driver feel like Fangio on a good day, and the drivers on the road now (at least those from early middle age) have never experienced anything but, seeing a vehicle like that Fiat abortion sends shivers down the spine of any driver who has encountered an adverse camber in a Morris Marina or slippery roundabout in a Triumph Herald/NSU 1000........ Other than that it looks great..... Edited March 17, 2021 by boxbrownie 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold LimboBrit Posted March 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2021 On 07/03/2021 at 20:59, w124bob said: I think the guy thought he was buying a Mustang 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold LimboBrit Posted March 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2021 On 07/03/2021 at 09:30, alastairq said: At one time, I had two Alfa 33s.........................Green cloverleaf.......2nd one, ex motorshow car [not sure which motorshow? Could have been the WI ?] Both absolute looneytunes. I loved my Alfa 33 Gold Cloverleaf. After moving to the Netherlands I drove it over here for more than a year. One day the guards on the NL/D border didn't take kindly to me still driving a British registered car and gave me an ultimatum. Ship it back or import it. My dad drove it back and sold it for me. Sad! A colleague of mine bought a Lancia Integrale. It was scary quick. I don't think I've seen one since. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted March 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, LimboBrit said: I loved my Alfa 33 Gold Cloverleaf. After moving to the Netherlands I drove it over here for more than a year. One day the guards on the NL/D border didn't take kindly to me still driving a British registered car and gave me an ultimatum. Ship it back or import it. My dad drove it back and sold it for me. Sad! A colleague of mine bought a Lancia Integrale. It was scary quick. I don't think I've seen one since. Mate of mine did the same when he was working on oil rig pipeline X-Raying the welds, he was based in Brittany and earned a packet so he bought a left hand drive BMW 323i Cab in Norway (something to do with tax) and used it for commuting back and forth to the U.K. (it was U.K. registered!) but after a while the customs at St Malo started getting arsey and actually tipped off the U.K. Customs.......in the end he hid it in his Dad’s garage on Foulness which was fine as his Dad worked for the MoD and it was within a secure area.....but after his contract ended he came back and had a hell of a job trying to sell it on, it got very complicated. As for the Intergrale, nice quick road rocket with silly brakes as standard, unless they were red hot they just wouldn’t stop the thing on short burst country roads. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 On 17/03/2021 at 17:35, boxbrownie said: I think it’s more that back “in the day” every car was a bit “unstable/whoops” if driven a bit enthusiastically (ok there were a few exceptions) and every driver was wary of it, having usually experienced a near death cornering mishap or pant staining braking issue......and thus every car was driven with caution in the back of the drivers mind, today with even the worst cars handle reasonably (well actually pretty much very safely) safely and the driver assistance system taking over in extremis and making the driver feel like Fangio on a good day, and the drivers on the road now (at least those from early middle age) have never experienced anything but, seeing a vehicle like that Fiat abortion sends shivers down the spine of any driver who has encountered an adverse camber in a Morris Marina or slippery roundabout in a Triumph Herald/NSU 1000........ Other than that it looks great..... Setting off sharply from a roundabout in a Victor 101 on crossplies, not realising that there's diesel all over the road. Impressive piece of fishtailing! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted March 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Setting off sharply from a roundabout in a Victor 101 on crossplies, not realising that there's diesel all over the road. Impressive piece of fishtailing! First car I ever worked on was my Uncle’s 101 Estate......I fitted windscreen washers......I was about 14 or 15 I think, loved it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstart Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 hours ago, LimboBrit said: I loved my Alfa 33 Gold Cloverleaf. After moving to the Netherlands I drove it over here for more than a year. One day the guards on the NL/D border didn't take kindly to me still driving a British registered car and gave me an ultimatum. Ship it back or import it. My dad drove it back and sold it for me. Sad! A colleague of mine bought a Lancia Integrale. It was scary quick. I don't think I've seen one since. I spent 15 months working in Belgium. Bought a lhd 33 (a lot easier for the barrier at work!). I was driving back many weekends. To be honest there were quite a few uk registered cars floating around Brussels which hadn’t been back to the uk for an mot in a LONG time. All the best Katy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2021 When I went to Greece for a holiday back in the late 70's the holiday courier had driven all the way there via Italy in a Mk. II Cortina. The tax on the Cortina was six months out of date. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted March 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Kickstart said: I spent 15 months working in Belgium. Bought a lhd 33 (a lot easier for the barrier at work!). I was driving back many weekends. To be honest there were quite a few uk registered cars floating around Brussels which hadn’t been back to the uk for an mot in a LONG time. All the best Katy I used to do a lot of work in Europe and had loads of gear to carry so needed something big and usually a 4X4 or AWD at least, one of my favourites was an Explorer SHO Eddie Bauer Edition from our test track in Nevada, it was used as a tracking vehicle for a few months over there and then was going to be scrapped (all our cars after use would be scrapped back then due tax) but I found out and got it shipped over here, well it was cheaper than us ordering a new one on our budget, so I had a LHD U.K. registered US vehicle driving around Europe, we used to get some odd looks at customs when they were trying to work out what to ask us ......I managed to hang on to that vehicle for over four years, that’s three years longer than I should have, great fun. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 16/03/2021 at 11:49, great central said: Came across this while mooching round the newsfeeds yesterday. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/gallery/sneak-peek-classic-car-museum-5168743 Getting to be quite a transport heritage hub around there now, with Peak Rail, Crich, and the High Peak trail all nearby. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 18/03/2021 at 22:36, PhilJ W said: When I went to Greece for a holiday back in the late 70's the holiday courier had driven all the way there via Italy in a Mk. II Cortina. The tax on the Cortina was six months out of date. If it was a 1300, it probably still had a few months to run when he left the UK... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Traxson Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 6 hours ago, RJS1977 said: Getting to be quite a transport heritage hub around there now, with Peak Rail, Crich, and the High Peak trail all nearby. And don't forget the Midland railway Centre at Swanwick. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted March 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Phil Traxson said: And don't forget the Midland railway Centre at Swanwick. And the Ecclesbourne Valley and Steeple Grange Light Railways at Wirksworth. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Spotted these when I was out for a walk this morning. Sadly closer inspection of the Mini suggests some attention to the bodywork will be necessary in fairly short order which will affect the fantastic paint job.... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) Love the paint job on the Mini, I wonder when it was actually done, it comes up as being first reg'd in August '77 so it's possible it was done when almost new for Jubilee year. On a completely different tangent I've been watching some Chevy Corvair stuff on youtube this afternoon (another rabbit hole well and truly hammered), in particular the 1965 onwards revised shape which I think is well thought out and executed for a rear engined car. I like the elegant roofline and thin window pillars, and the rear panel has a touch of Plymouth / Dodge muscle car about it. A lot of these cars are modified or customised now but I think the unmolested factory look is quite appealing.... As an American take on the rear engined European style coupe I'd say it works really well, I can see hints of Kharman Ghia and Pininfarina in some aspects of the design and it is much better looking than the original 1959 version. Edited March 21, 2021 by Rugd1022 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2021 Yes, that Corvair has a style worth looking at. It reminds me a little of the decade-later big BMW coupes, sans batmobile appendages. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 The rear panel puts me in mind of the Opel Manta "A", but it is the same family. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 15 hours ago, Rugd1022 said: Love the paint job on the Mini, I wonder when it was actually done, it comes up as being first reg'd in August '77 so it's possible it was done when almost new for Jubilee year. Yes, the vertical and diagonal lines of the flag line up nicely with the pillars so the design suits it well. As the car was built in Jubilee year, is it possible it left the factory like that? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted March 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2021 https://flic.kr/p/a2hN4b 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, RJS1977 said: Yes, the vertical and diagonal lines of the flag line up nicely with the pillars so the design suits it well. As the car was built in Jubilee year, is it possible it left the factory like that? I doubt it, but I suppose it's possible it may have been commissioned by BL management at the time with someone else doing the actual paint job. Some more Chevy Corvair stuff.... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted March 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2021 Used to be a few in Worcester from a collector, one was a couple of garages up from my garage when I had a bedsit, at the time I had the Sunbeam 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just found this lurking in the murky depths of my hard drive - ABBA's Agnetha with her BMW.... 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Someone was out taking advantage of the sunshine earlier today. Mind you, if it was mine so would I! steve 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted March 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2021 58 minutes ago, steve1 said: Someone was out taking advantage of the sunshine earlier today. Mind you, if it was mine so would I! steve Great number plate if you live near the "West Somerset Railway". Terry. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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