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13 hours ago, MrWolf said:

@figworthy Do you mean something like this 1950s All-state trailer? 

All-state was the motor accessories arm of the Sears chain stores.

 

 

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Looks very much like it, but this one was rather more agricultural.

 

Adrian

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12 minutes ago, peanuts said:

talking of transits

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I went to Thruxton, way back when the first two of the transit mid engine machines gave some demonstration circuits.  Awesome sight, with the inside front lifted well up on the corners.

 

Julian

 

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45 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said:

In complete contrast to the '90s Maserati I posted a few days ago, here's Market Place in Rugby way back in the '50s....

 

 

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A few rare ones there, Ford 7W roadster, very early (pre-war) Prefect, unidentifiable car and a van that is possibly ex military going by the size of the wheels tyres.  

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A nice photo, thanks...and proper direction signs one can read, and a proper, readable road sign [instead of a vague symbol which could involve guesswork? Some road users ''guess wrong'' apparently]

 A nice Ford E93A Prefect too...last made 1949...{I don't think its a 7W?}

A war-surplus US army ...what? Dodge? Van [not the huuuuge caution LHD signs on the back....in case you get the impression its the passenger that has just leapt out of the moving vehicle?

There's what seems to be  a nice Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire beyond on the other side of the road...and a Rover on this side?

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Watching Grand Designs New Zealand this week, they visited a scrapyard to find some items to decorate the new house. Alleged to be the biggest scrapyard in Australasia, it had a stunning quantity of cars from 1950s onwards and huge racks of spares.

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The car on the left is a Ford 7W, which became the Prefect in 1938/39. The wheels are the identifier that it is a Ford, and the bumpers and the shape of the rear side panels to accommodate the hood show that it is a 7W. The Ford Prefect in front of it is possibly only a year younger but is almost certainly a pre-war model with the bonnet and front wings that were changed to a different style in 1939.

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1 hour ago, Rugd1022 said:

In complete contrast to the '90s Maserati I posted a few days ago, here's Market Place in Rugby way back in the '50s....

 

 

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29 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

A few rare ones there, Ford 7W roadster, very early (pre-war) Prefect, unidentifiable car and a van that is possibly ex military going by the size of the wheels tyres.  

 

29 minutes ago, alastairq said:

A nice photo, thanks...and proper direction signs one can read, and a proper, readable road sign [instead of a vague symbol which could involve guesswork? Some road users ''guess wrong'' apparently]

 A nice Ford E93A Prefect too...last made 1949...{I don't think its a 7W?}

A war-surplus US army ...what? Dodge? Van [not the huuuuge caution LHD signs on the back....in case you get the impression its the passenger that has just leapt out of the moving vehicle?

There's what seems to be  a nice Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire beyond on the other side of the road...and a Rover on this side?

Examining the photograph under magnification it appears there is a sign board in front of the drivers door of the car on the left, you can just make out the upright and the base. Here is a picture of a preserved example.

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The other car is the normal 4 door.

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Post war the running boards were dropped which means both are pre-war.

 

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When I mentioned d the 7W, I was referring to the E93A prefect, sorry....wasn't taking a punt at the soft top....The 7W was available as a 4 door, but I think that's an E93A Prefect?

The car on the other side of the road I'm [pretty sure is an Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire. [Star?]….The Alvis ''Grey Lady'' had more rounded wings at the front.

 

Back in the late 1950's I was fostered with a family in the midlands....Employed by Massey Ferguson as a manager, they always had a large motorcar, which always cost less than £400.  There were 3 much older children to transport, as well as myself...family cars of the day weren't quite spacious enough for Mum, Dad, 4 kids, pets, baggage, & holiday stuff. The head of the family was also a keen semi professional photographer, with cover photos on some of the expensive glossy country life magazines of the day. 

Next door-but-one, lived Mr Edward Eves, who at that time happened to be midland editor of, I think Autosport [or became so, a couple of years later?]

https://revsinstitute.org/WMS/Revscat123257.pdf

https://library.revsinstitute.org/digital/custom/results?collection=p17257coll1&advanced=source^Edward Eves Photograph Collection^all^and&page=1#

 

…who wrote an article for one of the motoring mags of the day, along the title lines of ''The £400 executive''... The article was about the family, and their choices of motorcar [entitled to a company car, none were taken up....]...However, Jaguar MkVII, Armstrong Siddeley [Star] Sapphire, etc were the   motorcars of choice...2nd hand of course. Other makes of the 'not quite Bentley or Roller' brigade were also to be seen.

The tale goes, that when turning up for work in Coventry, he would be guided into the Director's car park instead of the senior staff car park..on account of the Siddeley looking so fine & posh...It was a nice car, very dark green, loads of room in the  back for 4 children of varying sizes, dog, etc, no tight squeezes at all.  Apparently also very popular at the petrol stations of the day when the  car was 'filled up'. All for less than 400 quid!

I loved those days in my childhood....[They gave me my first pushbike!]

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I think that for some of us, the cars that stick in our memories as children are the ones that either influence our taste in cars or leads us into tinkering with classic cars. It also doesn't follow that if you like classics that you are automatically interested in the cars that were new when you were a child. My other half has a 1965 Triumph Herald 1200, it's 30 years older than she is. She likes it because of her memories of riding around in one her mother had 20 years ago. Her mother bought a Herald because it reminded her of the one her mother had from new.

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The reason I thought the Prefect was an early model is that it appears to have the side opening bonnet that was continued with the Anglia and Popular. On the Prefect this was replaced by the alligator bonnet in 1939 but still with the separate headlamps. The Prefect headlamps were not incorporated into the wings until 1948/49.

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I agree...which is why I'm probably sure its an E93A prefect, and not the even earlier 7W ?

The E93A was the first Prefect...which evolved into the E493A Prefect [which had the headlamps faired into the front wings]

Running boards were continued after WW2, and can be found on the E493A Prefect as well.

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I too thought that it looked like an alligator bonnet vehicle, which allied to the wide rear window, took me (erroneously) along the '39 Minx route, until I realised that the headlights were both too small and too far away from the radiator shell. What looked like a rib down the bootlid is a shadow. As for the exact model of Ford Prefect?

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21 hours ago, Joseph_Pestell said:

Watching Grand Designs New Zealand this week, they visited a scrapyard to find some items to decorate the new house. Alleged to be the biggest scrapyard in Australasia, it had a stunning quantity of cars from 1950s onwards and huge racks of spares.

When we made our first visit to New Zealand 20 years ago, a lot of those cars were still on the road!

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A lot of places without an indigenous motor industry have a high import duty on complete cars. This is the reason so many older cars survive, its too expensive to replace them. Many are delivered CKD for local assembly. Usually only one factory so rival makes can be assembled alongside one another. In Malta in the 70's Minis and Mk. I & II Escorts came off the production line side by side.

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That would be Horopito brothers scrapyard in New Zealand. They have some fantastic old vehicles there and like to sell off complete cars for restoration, also like country yards in the UK used to do before legislation shut them down, they don't scrap much unless it's totally stripped out and everything of use salvaged. That to me is true recycling.

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8 minutes ago, MrWolf said:

That would be Horopito brothers scrapyard in New Zealand. They have some fantastic old vehicles there and like to sell off complete cars for restoration, also like country yards in the UK used to do before legislation shut them down, they don't scrap much unless it's totally stripped out and everything of use salvaged. That to me is true recycling.

Not sure my wife would agree but if we ever get to holiday in New Zealand I'm going to Horopito's.  Just the Images associated with Google Street View are enticing..... one shows three Minors stacked on other cars and one of them is a Lowlight.

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