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For a little while now, I have been posting old family photographs of cars on this thread, this is the last of them.

 

No details that I can give this time. I do not know the make of car, or when or where the photograph was taken.

 

The number plate indicates that the car was registered in Derbyshire.

 

 

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On 04/07/2020 at 09:55, boxbrownie said:

Wasn’t it that young whipper snapper of a F1 driver who got caught avoiding the tax on his plane by buying it through the IoM in the past couple years?
 

I don’t think the banks on the Island have ever been secretive like the Knomes under the mountains :lol:

 

Sorry, not been here for a while.  As per my quote - no he wasn't 'caught', it was proven he did nothing wrong.  Just sensationalist reporting as usual.

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2 hours ago, New Haven Neil said:

 

Sorry, not been here for a while.  As per my quote - no he wasn't 'caught', it was proven he did nothing wrong.  Just sensationalist reporting as usual.

True of course.....golden boy can do no wrong :huh:

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Read it up. It was accepted that he didn't break the law and he probably had very little to do with it, being dealt with by his accountants and lawyers. However the loophole he and many others used has now been closed. 

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18 minutes ago, Hobby said:

Read it up. It was accepted that he didn't break the law and he probably had very little to do with it, being dealt with by his accountants and lawyers. However the loophole he and many others used has now been closed. 

No he didn’t break the law, that’s the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance.......

 

Told you he was Golden Boy :lol:

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20 minutes ago, Hobby said:

Read it up. It was accepted that he didn't break the law and he probably had very little to do with it, being dealt with by his accountants and lawyers. However the loophole he and many others used has now been closed. 

No criticism from me of Hamilton or any other Formula One drivers who have minimised their taxes during their brief high-earning careers.  However I always admired Damon Hill for this, as during his F1 career he did (and may still) live in Ireland, just outside Dublin.  I got this impression this was largely for family privacy; after all in the off season when there's no actual races to write about, the journos need interviews with drivers to sell copy.  Where are they going to want to go in January: to Monaco where half the drivers live and the weather is probably very pleasant, or to visit the one driver in Ireland where it is almost certainly raining?

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As there is mention of the Stratos earlier this belongs to a very close friend. I've had a lift to work in it a while back. It's currently off road but only needs a small amount of work to get it out and about again.

 

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And , as a further snippet The Chequered Flag had three Stratos over the years. The first two were totally destroyed by fire. The third was sold to Germany and subsequently bought by a Chesterfield businessman, Steve Perez. The car was badly damaged by fire a couple of years ago in Belgium whilst refuelling and Steve was lucky to survive spending three weeks in an induced coma in intensive care.

 

The original design concept Stratos is pictured earlier, it is the first car pictured by Rugd1022 below.

 

On 16/07/2020 at 19:29, Rugd1022 said:

 

It was a very busy time for Bertone, Marcello Gandini's Stratos Zero concept car appeared the year before, as did his pre-production Lamborghini Urraco and of course he was fine tuning the Countach which (at the time) nobody expected to become a genuine production car. The Bertone factory was busy building bodies for the production Stratos, the first Urracos, the Series 2 Lamborghini Espada, the Fiat Dino Coupes and the 105 Series Alfa Giulia and Montreal Coupes amongst several other cars.

 

After the Geneva show in March '71 the white Stratos Prototype was repainted in orangey red which it still carries today....

 

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6 hours ago, rocor said:

For a little while now, I have been posting old family photographs of cars on this thread, this is the last of them.

 

No details that I can give this time. I do not know the make of car, or when or where the photograph was taken.

 

The number plate indicates that the car was registered in Derbyshire.

 

 

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The registration dates it as 1905/06. The Derbyshire registration records still exist and are held by the Derbyshire records office in Matlock. That should give you the make of car and the name and address of the owner.

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2 hours ago, Rugd1022 said:

Very nice Richard - hope your friend gets it back on the road soon ;).

 

Some more period Stratos nostalgia....

 

 

 

 

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The motor club I belonged to ran the Whatley Quarry stage in Somerset on that RAC Rally - I recall (perhaps wrongly) that was the stage, run in the dark, on which the car lost the rear clam.

 

17 minutes ago, Killybegs said:

I knew if I dug around long enough in the attic, I would find this. That's me in the white helmet and shades. Arkell Rally 1975.

 

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I was spectating there, mainly did night road rallies in a Mk1 Escort and then a Chevette 2300. Managed to get Pete Davis to navigate on a couple of events, he later had a year at Ford with Mark Lovell who was a fellow club member.

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7 hours ago, rocor said:

For a little while now, I have been posting old family photographs of cars on this thread, this is the last of them.

 

No details that I can give this time. I do not know the make of car, or when or where the photograph was taken.

 

The number plate indicates that the car was registered in Derbyshire.

 

 

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Somehow has the look of Nottingham Road Ripley to me, probably nowhere near though

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19 minutes ago, great central said:

 

Somehow has the look of Nottingham Road Ripley to me, probably nowhere near though

If the address of the owner is found that should give an indication of the locality. In 1905/06 when the car was registered they would be unlikely to venture to far from home due to several factors such as the state of the roads, speed limits and few places where petrol could be obtained. The relevant records for Derbyshire are still extant as I stated it just depends on how complete the records are.

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On 23/07/2020 at 03:05, doilum said:

Many years ago I got caught out by a sudden summer downpour. Many inches of rain in twenty minutes. Trouble was the Dutton had been left topless and was now full of water to the bottom of the dashboard. Surrounded by a crowd of head shaking colleagues I went back into the caretakers den and returned with a hammer and six inch nail. Three holes in each footwell did the job and whilst the water slowly drained, I returned the hammer and blagged a couple of binliners to sit on. It started first touch unlike several almost new vehicles close by.

Wasn't a Melos was it? Those always made me think of fibreglass bathtubs, even when not full of water ;)

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23 hours ago, Richard E said:

 

The motor club I belonged to ran the Whatley Quarry stage in Somerset on that RAC Rally - I recall (perhaps wrongly) that was the stage, run in the dark, on which the car lost the rear clam.

 

 

It was missing when it came through the Cirencester Park Stage, I'm not sure whether that was before or after  Whatley Quarry.

 

That was when the RAC was still a proper rally when men were men .........!

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19 minutes ago, Killybegs said:

 

It was missing when it came through the Cirencester Park Stage, I'm not sure whether that was before or after  Whatley Quarry.

 

That was when the RAC was still a proper rally when men were men .........!

 

And Pat Moss could and did beat most of them...

 

Julian

 

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On 23/07/2020 at 23:14, Rugd1022 said:

A couple of Lancia Stratos books have arrived in ze post - que more incessant daydreaming about semi exotic little Italian wedges. I really do like the simplicity of the Bertone design, and it wasn't just the outer skin that Marcello Gandini penned, he was also responsible for the underpinnings and came up with the very strong rear subframe layout, with some input from Lania's engineers and Nuccio Bertone himself. A real one is about £400k these days (if you can find an owner who wants to part with it), a Lister Bell replica is about £40k on the road, but a very nice 1/18th scale version is available for about £40.00....! The Lister Bell one is very well designed and put together though, and they supply new parts and body panels to owners of the real thing, just as Superformance provide spares for owners of genuine Ford GT40s.

 

Doesn't hurt to dream a bit does it....!

 

 

 

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It strikes me that 40k is a bit of a bargain for a decent replica Stratos. I've just had a look at what's available around that price point in the UK, and the Strat is considerably more exciting (albeit rather less practical) than most.

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I've just been looking at some of the 'in build' photos on their facebook page and the quality, fit and finish is leagues ahead of the real thing. It appears that bespoke interior options are available too. I remember looking at two of them at the kit car show in Stoneleigh last year and was very impressed, likewise with the Hawk version. Unfortunately I don't have £40k lying about, but it hasn't stopped me dreaming up my ideal spec for one.... :biggrin_mini2:

 

Look out, here comes a real one....!

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Northmoor said:

Never mind a Stratos, I just wish I'd bought an Integrale in the early 90s before the prices went silly.

 

Twice I nearly bought one but was put off by LHD and perceived electrical problems 

But sometimes I wish I had now. Had a couple of superb test drives especially with Steve Smith from otterington he actually encouraged me to jump it on the test drive,  what a salesman! 

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