RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2018 trolleybuses have the power and brake pedals the opposite to convention That was continued on the Routemaster buses as they replaced the trolleybuses and many of the drivers were ex trolleybus drivers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) That was continued on the Routemaster buses as they replaced the trolleybuses and many of the drivers were ex trolleybus drivers. That must have ended...when? When I drove for London Transport, the RMs had a conventional pedal layout [there were only two of them. Pedals, that is]....[1972-4] Edited September 7, 2018 by alastairq 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Went to the Isle of Wight yesterday for a "Cultural Tour" parked outside the second pub was this beauty! IMGP3566.JPG all the way from Switzerland and the poor bloke had picked up a parking ticket! Hmmmm! If the driver owned that motor, he would hardly be 'poor'.... Mind, he possibly couldn't stretch to a watch?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Hmmmm! If the driver owned that motor, he would hardly be 'poor'.... Can't afford to be poor in Switzerland, although the Swiss "poor" is probably* still richer than "our" poor. Mind, he possibly couldn't stretch to a watch?? Nothing so Mondaine…. *subject to fluctuations in living standards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I could be wrong here, but...didn't Alfa Romeo still use a central accelerator pedal into the 1950's? You wouldn't want to forget which car you were driving. A bit like the old joke when one of the European countries decided to change from driving on the left hand side to the right. It was decided to phase it in gradually, so private vehicles would change one day and commercial vehicles the next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinZaPint Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 The last meeting of the year at the Pub Paddock produced some real beauties An Alvis 2.5L Tourer 1937 A GT40 rep 1996 A Jaguar SS100 1935 lovely car A Lea Francis 1951 A Rolls Royce 1933 A rather nice Austin 7 special 1936 and for commercial fans a 1956 Fordson no more meetings until next year but a very interesting season! 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Going to the Citroën Visa anniversary thing tomorrow. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Going to the Citroën Visa anniversary thing tomorrow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I can't believe that model is 40 years old either. But it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 You wouldn't want to forget which car you were driving. A bit like the old joke when one of the European countries decided to change from driving on the left hand side to the right. It was decided to phase it in gradually, so private vehicles would change one day and commercial vehicles the next. I thought it was Eire? To align with EU policy, they were going to try moving cars over one year...and if that worked OK, move trucks and buses over the following year? Mind, they did that in Sweden.....everything stopped at a certain time near midnight...then swapped sides of the road...waiting a bit, before carrying on. I should imagine it confused the hell out of the elks.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 ...Mind, they did that in Sweden.....everything stopped at a certain time near midnight...then swapped sides of the road...waiting a bit, before carrying on..... I saw a film about that on YouTube. Interesting to note that a lot of the vehicles (especially the PSVs) were already LHD by that time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Nothing so Mondaine…. Ho, Ho Ho. I wonder if he still had a Breitling outlook on life as he TAGged that parking ticket from his windscreen. Don't suppose the fine was much of a pain in the Baume to someone that owns an Aston but wonder if he exclaimed Omegad on seeing the ticket. Bet he would never be seen driving a Swift Jaeger? That would be an even bigger pain in the Oris. P (Ex collector of Swiss Mechanisms) Edited September 7, 2018 by Porcy Mane 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (Ex collector of Swiss Mechanisms) You're just an old Tissot, aren't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Tiss Artiste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2018 That must have ended...when? When I drove for London Transport, the RMs had a conventional pedal layout [there were only two of them. Pedals, that is]....[1972-4] I don't think it lasted all that long before they were changed to the normal arrangement. I saw a film about that on YouTube. Interesting to note that a lot of the vehicles (especially the PSVs) were already LHD by that time. Not all of them, a massive fleet of new buses had to be ordered including many from Leyland. A lot of Scania buses were disposed of in Ireland but they were not compatible with the then UK fitness regulations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I don't think it lasted all that long before they were changed to the normal arrangement. Not all of them, a massive fleet of new buses had to be ordered including many from Leyland. A lot of Scania buses were disposed of in Ireland but they were not compatible with the then UK fitness regulations. I don't recall any ex Sweden buses turning up in Ireland after the change, a number did go to Pakistan, India, Kenya and possibly also South Africa. As the Irish PSV regulations were framed around the UK COIF regs, the two were very similar in their requirements so it would be unusual for a bus to meet Irish regs but not the UK at that time. Up until the advent of vehicles built to EU directive 2001/ 85 and subsequently Whole Vehicle Type Approval, a vehicle exported to Ireland could be certified in Ireland using the UK COIF as evidence of initial compliance which made the inspection process much more straightforward and simplified the process of registering it. Left hand drive buses, some with additional doors on the left side, entered service for a year or more prior to the change and a large number of right hand drive buses were retrofitted with doors on the right side in preparation. As these fell due for withdrawal, they too were exported or scrapped. Those LHD vehicles built with the left side doors had them removed afterwards. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I saw a film about that on YouTube. Interesting to note that a lot of the vehicles (especially the PSVs) were already LHD by that time. I believe that a lot of vehicles were already LHD due to the general coming and going from their Scandinavian neighbours, it made no sense to persevere driving on the left as road freight traffic increased. However I didn’t realise that Portugal, Italy, Hungary and Czechoslovakia only switched from left to right between 1928 and 1940. Apparently parts of Canada formerly drove on the left (those not connected to the US road network, mostly). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2018 I believe that a lot of vehicles were already LHD due to the general coming and going from their Scandinavian neighbours, it made no sense to persevere driving on the left as road freight traffic increased. However I didn’t realise that Portugal, Italy, Hungary and Czechoslovakia only switched from left to right between 1928 and 1940. Apparently parts of Canada formerly drove on the left (those not connected to the US road network, mostly). The old Austro-Hungarian empire drove on the left and that included Austria itself and Yugoslavia, the change was forced upon them by Hitler. The parts of Canada where the left hand rule applied were Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, Newfoundland didn't change over until 1948 when it became part of Canada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chriswright03 Posted September 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2018 Interesting video about the change of sides to drive on at a border. Scary or what? https://www.facebook.com/reginaldodecampinas/videos/539489183166583/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2018 Interesting video about the change of sides to drive on at a border. Scary or what? https://www.facebook.com/reginaldodecampinas/videos/539489183166583/ Not many places where that happens now, only *Hong Kong and Macau come to mind. Mainland China also used to drive on the left until 1946 but the colonies retained the left hand rule. One might have thought that Macau being Portugese would have changed but when it was cut off from Maoist China most of its contact with the rest of the world was through Hong Kong. *There are some places in Indo-China and Africa where the change takes place at national boundries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On my way to my caravan this afternoon I was confronted with a real blast from my past. Just turned out into a main road and coming towards me was a Morris 1100 mk2, not just any 1100. Pretty much identical to my first car, looking to be Snowberry white rather than Glacier white which followed on, I believe. Seemed very original as well, looking a bit tatty around the edges, some rust on the rear arch and boy could they rust. G reg so a bit newer than mine which was an F, bought with a small inheritance from my grandparents, mine was quite badly rusted around the front subframe mountings when I traded it in at around 5 years old, shame really it was a lovely comfortable car. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr2 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) On my way to my caravan this afternoon I was confronted with a real blast from my past. Just turned out into a main road and coming towards me was a Morris 1100 mk2, not just any 1100. Pretty much identical to my first car, looking to be Snowberry white rather than Glacier white which followed on, I believe. Seemed very original as well, looking a bit tatty around the edges, some rust on the rear arch and boy could they rust. G reg so a bit newer than mine which was an F, bought with a small inheritance from my grandparents, mine was quite badly rusted around the front subframe mountings when I traded it in at around 5 years old, shame really it was a lovely comfortable car. An 1100 was my first car too, in RAF blue/grey, with twin Strombergs (or S.U.'s, memory fading!) & a 6ft long fibreglass 'whip' radio aerial in the nearside rear wing! Bought in the early summer just after I passed my test, I thought it was the best car in the world! But when we started getting some rain the interior started to get a really damp, musty smell. Investigations showed that under the carpet the front passenger floor consisted of a piece of soggy plywood & a couple of damp Daily Mirrors...!! I learnt a bit about buying cars from that....!! Keith Edited September 8, 2018 by keefr2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Seen at today's Chevrons Rally in Little Horwood, a Series 2 CX25 TRI Safari with some serious sound system in it: 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) An 1100 was my first car too, in RAF blue/grey, with twin Strombergs (or S.U.'s, memory fading!) & a 6ft long fibreglass 'whip' radio aerial in the nearside rear wing! Bought in the early summer just after I passed my test, I thought it was the best car in the world! But when we started getting some rain the interior started to get a really damp, musty smell. Investigations showed that under the carpet the front passenger floor consisted of a piece of soggy plywood & a couple of damp Daily Mirrors...!! I learnt a bit about buying cars from that....!! Keith My dad had an 1100 in the RAF looking blue and mine had the almost obligatory, at the time, fibreglass aerial on the front wing. Useful for locating it in the car park after stock car meetings with a small flag at the top, still took ages to find when several of us went to one of the very few drag race meetings at RAF Fulbeck if I remember correctly. Car park area was dead flat and cars seemed to stretch for miles in all directions Edited September 8, 2018 by great central 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 40 years ago, these little cars began to hit the streets of Europe: Hell, was it as long ago as that!? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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