peter220950 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Hell would be to be stuck behind a Metropolitan and matching caravan, though. Best, Pete. What about being stuck behind the pair of them. Was that Stirling Moss alongside the A40 pick up? Unlikely round here, his official website notes that "he still globe-trots around the world with Lady Moss, fulfilling promotional engagements as well as demonstrating historic race cars" - He was also at the Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion in Laguna Seca California last weekend, so I think a Garden Centre in Worcestershire probably wouldn't cut it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 25, 2014 The one facing the camera? I thought he looked like John Surtees - but he seems to have more hair..... Best, Pete. Neither - Moss is still fairly slim and the face is too round for John Surtees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDolfelin Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 Many years ago I drove a Metropolitan (don't ask) from Eastbourne to Epsom in the freezing depths of winter. Of course, the heater didn't work. When the police pulled me up for something to do I could hardly get out of the car I was so cold. They must have thought I had a very bad stammer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstart Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 A nice Bond Bug DSCF2465.JPG Saw on of those being driven down the A38 north of Burton a week or so ago (on the way to Midland Railex at the time). First time I have seen one in decades. All the best Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2014 Nothing in the World approaches the sound of a 427 Cobra with side pipes and no roof at all.......Sorry. I doubt whether I’ll have that opportunity ever again whereas I have several Lambos, two Maserati Boras (both with the stainless steel roofs from the early seventies) etc., within shouting distance. Best, Pete. There are better, here they are 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Actually I disagree - if you’ve heard a 427 Cobra with side pipes you may well change your mind and like it equally. Whilst it has been done with a Merlin (several times) but not very successfully and with a deltic engine probably never it is a bit of a moot point......putting one into a car, I mean. Best, Pete. Edited August 25, 2014 by trisonic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted August 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2014 Personally I preferred the howl of a three cylinder two stroke with expansion pipes through the Mersey tunnel, mainly because I was the one on the throttle....... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2014 Personally I preferred the howl of a three cylinder two stroke with expansion pipes through the Mersey tunnel, mainly because I was the one on the throttle....... Commer TS3? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I think Mick means a “Kwacka”, Phil................... Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted August 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2014 Commer TS3? Kawasaki 500 about the same MPG but no sump oil to consume...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2014 Neither did the Commer TS3. 3 cylinder 2-stroke diesel engine with two opposed pistons per cylinder, same principle as the Deltic. They sounded brilliant even from a couple of miles away. A few years ago someone fitted a TS3 to a 'special' with a straight through exhaust, you must have been able to hear it coming from about 5 miles away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweasel Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Three more 2 stroke triples. Saab,especially the Monte Carlo with 3 carbs, Auto Union and Wartburg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted August 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2014 I did some work on a TS3 when I first started training as a plant fitter, just the engine on a stand wheeled it over to the open doorway ran it up and deafened most of Wakefield the only engine that came with a 12sqin piece of plywood to stop it when it started eating its own oil. As I understood it it was used in the development of multi fuel engines and could run on a variety of what would now be termed eco fuels sunflower oil peanut oil etc The Kawasaki was a much higher howl because the thing revved out at about 11,000 rpm max power was between 6,750 and 7,500 intake roar plus snap crackle pop from the exhausts....... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2014 Actually I disagree - if you’ve heard a 427 Cobra with side pipes you may well change your mind and like it equally. Whilst it has been done with a Merlin (several times) but not very successfully and with a deltic engine probably never it is a bit of a moot point......putting one into a car, I mean. Best, Pete. Well I have heard Merlins in groups on a number of occasions and a low flying Lancaster is amazing. As to Deltics, a pair being driven hard sounds like nothing else ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted August 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2014 I think Pete meant fitted in a car, on the other hand I have never been in a tunnel with a Deltic on song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 26, 2014 I think Pete meant fitted in a car, on the other hand I have never been in a tunnel with a Deltic on song. Just as well (in the latter case). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted August 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2014 Just as well (in the latter case). Up to 1985 I was thin enough to fit into the recesses...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 its a Triumph Acclaim Honda Ballade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatman Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The Commer engined special was built by an old chap who owns Fenland Airfield and the one time scrap yard next door. He always attends Newark Autojumble in it. With a trailer on the back. It's huge and sounds wonderful! He has another vintage type special (based on a Phatom III RR!) with a 5 cylinder Gardner engine in it. A remarkable old gent. BTW, a 3 litre Bentley isn't a Speed Six as it has only 4 cylinders! Nice pics and what a variety for just a garden centre in Worcestershire! Regards, Boatman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter220950 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 BTW, a 3 litre Bentley isn't a Speed Six as it has only 4 cylinders! Nice pics and what a variety for just a garden centre in Worcestershire! Regards, Boatman Quite right sir, I don't know where I got the six from, my apologies! No doubt a combination of senility and bad eyesight. The gathering started about 15 years ago and, similar to the one in Droitwich, it has just grown over the years, much of the stuff is run of the mill kit cars and classics but there are the occasional gems. It's amazing what there is in the locality. - It also means I don't have to go around the Garden Centre. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Well I have heard Merlins in groups on a number of occasions and a low flying Lancaster is amazing. As to Deltics, a pair being driven hard sounds like nothing else ever. Yes, I know but they are rather inconvenient in cars - which is what this thread is all about - my father flew in planes with four Merlins - I grew up with them. I like Deltics too but they are not suitable for cars. Deltic engines were designed for marine use where it was found that they also worked for railway locomotives - lovely sound - BUT this is a car thread. Best, Pete. Edited August 26, 2014 by trisonic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Other uses for a Merlin. I thought I'd read about a chap who killed himself in a Merlin engined car, or was it a Meteor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Saw on of those being driven down the A38 north of Burton a week or so ago (on the way to Midland Railex at the time). First time I have seen one in decades. All the best Keith Styled by the same chap who did the HST (and the Kenwood Chef..) I think I'm correct in saying you could drive them on a motorbike licence, and didn't need a full car licence. Only about 3000 or so were built; I'd doubt that many survived, as they had a tendency to flip over at speed. Someone who had a flat in the same house as me in Bristol had one, and wrote it off in this manner. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Other uses for a Merlin. I thought I'd read about a chap who killed himself in a Merlin engined car, or was it a Meteor? Very interesting. I seem to recall one being in a proto - dragster at Santa Pod. It wasn’t too successful, unfortunately. Wheelspin being difficult to manage as well as being unsuitable for a ¼ mile standing start, IIRC. I saw the Phantom bodied one come up for sale at a recent auction over here - probably when Jay Leno bought it. Best, Pete. Edited August 26, 2014 by trisonic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatman Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Being able to drive a "car" on a bike licence in the older days was all down to weight, not wheel numbers, but keeping the number of wheels to a minimum made it easier to get down to that weight, which I believe was 590 Kg. My Reliant Fox van was 630 Kg, due to its double skin body moulding. Regards, Boatman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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