don Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Hi Jim,i notice that that this Alco doesnt have any buffers?i thought that the european supplied locos had buffers in place of the American buckeyes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2014 The switcher is Alco S1 #803 built for use in the Steel Company of Wales. There were 5 of them and I think three still survive in the UK. Cheers, Mick I believe the Cholsey and Wallingford want rid of it as it is taking up space and is utterly useless to them as it won't fit under bridges! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 26, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2014 I believe the Cholsey and Wallingford want rid of it as it is taking up space and is utterly useless to them as it won't fit under bridges! the only bridge!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2014 the only bridge!! It seems that one is more than enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 In the interests of clarity ALCO built 540 S1’s between April 1940 and June 1950. A further 292 S3’s were built (the only difference being the trucks or bogies) 5 of the S1’s ended in the UK, at some point. It was a pretty successful locomotive. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted October 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2014 The Stationmaster, on 26 Oct 2014 - 22:46, said:I believe the Cholsey and Wallingford want rid of it as it is taking up space and is utterly useless to them as it won't fit under bridges! And at 90 ton on 4 axles, it'll give their bullhead fishplates some grief aswel I'd imagine! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted October 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2014 trisonic, on 27 Oct 2014 - 01:37, said: In the interests of clarity ALCO built 540 S1’s between April 1940 and June 1950. A further 292 S3’s were built (the only difference being the trucks or bogies) 5 of the S1’s ended in the UK, at some point. It was a pretty successful locomotive. Best, Pete. S2 is turbo charged Pete, to give 1000 HP. S1 is naturally aspirated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted October 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2014 don, on 26 Oct 2014 - 21:17, said:Hi Jim,i notice that that this Alco doesnt have any buffers?i thought that the european supplied locos had buffers in place of the American buckeyes? Pedantic mode on, (sorry) American loco's don't have 'buckeye's' in the UK sense, they have knuckle couplers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2014 And at 90 ton on 4 axles, it'll give their bullhead fishplates some grief aswel I'd imagine! Having ridden the line over the years on various vehicles (most recently a 350 shunter) something which gives the road a good rolling might not be a bad idea, even if all the fishplates break in the process Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 27, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2014 anyhooo, back to work, just one pic as the rest are on the proper camera that was on arrival into bescot with 70801, 70804, 70805 and 20 loaded falcons! had fun fuelling them at bescot as the depot is now closed, no power to it anymore ready to be pulled down sometime next month so we had to run up the north end and fuel it on the "tank road" the problem being you can only shunt one loco at a time quite a good day for pics today as well, 4 class 60s knocking about between oxford and bescot!! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 A bit of power there then!!!!!! Nice pic as always Jim That's quite sad, another haunt from my childhood closed though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium eldavo Posted October 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2014 Are you sure you have enough horses there? Impressive lash up. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2014 I hope you remarshalled them in numerical order Jim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Wallingford could sell the Alco for scrap at least that way money would be in their bank account. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted October 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2014 lmsforever, on 28 Oct 2014 - 15:56, said:Wallingford could sell the Alco for scrap at least that way money would be in their bank account. Scrap an Alco?! That would be sacrilege! I do wonder why and how they came to acquire it though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 28, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2014 a few from today got some pics of bescot shed, its now all fanced off ready to be demolished so really its my last chance to get any pics of it as im on a different job for the next few weeks all pics from the sony lems camera, loads on the proper one too to upload when i get home 60074 on the lindsey tanks at water orton bescot with a pair of royal 67s 08907 seen loads of class 60s over the last few days on various turns, got some good shots to upload of thise, also 68003 in bescot earlier too 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted October 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yet another Iconic depot bites the dust! Such a shame. All in the name of progress. RIP BS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2014 Yet another Iconic depot bites the dust! Such a shame. All in the name of progress. RIP BS. I thought it went downhill when all the Duck Eights had gone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko22 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 With all the depots seemingly closing no doubt it will only be a matter of time before we have a depot shortage!! I can see BS opening again before to long maybe with another owner especially with the yards right there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 29, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2014 Its only the depot building thats coming down its going to be staying open as a fuelling and servicing point and they are putting up one of those nissen hut type buildings in its place Its playing havoc with the fuelling at the moment though!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko22 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Ahh ok (well not ok but nothing we can do about it) I bet it is from what I remember it was never the best fueling point to start with! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted October 29, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2014 With all the depots seemingly closing no doubt it will only be a matter of time before we have a depot shortage!! I can see BS opening again before to long maybe with another owner especially with the yards right there! The days of needing a depot for anything other than the most serious of work are well and truly over. Performing fuelling, cleaning and even fairly significant repairs "out in the field" (via road tankers and "man in a van" options) so to speak is not only cheaper and more efficient, but also removes the need to maintain (and keep secure from vandals, metal thieves) large depot buildings. Furthermore just as motor vehicles have got progressively more reliable over the decades, the class 66 fleet for example needs the fraction of maintenance of BR designs with no detriment to its ability to keep going reliably. If anything the issue with the 66s is the lightweight bodyshell which is far more likely to have issues than the robust and reliable engineering it contains. As such the demise of Bescot depot building, or indeed any of the others that have vanished over the past couple of decades will have absolutely no effect on freight operations now or in the years to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2014 While what Phil says is true one problem which now exists is that fuelling is taking place at sites which are not provided with proper aprons, drainage and interceptors - which can gradually result in ground contamination and even worse damage if spillage leaks through to watercourses. In view of the rigour that BR exhibited in trying to take seriously such hazards (and the various prosecutions which took place) l'm rather surprised by the lax standards which can now be seen at more than one site where refuelling is regularly carried out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) I agree with Mike - and I’ve seen locos being directly filled from trucks (at a location convenient for the truck) over here. I’ve often thought that they wouldn’t get away with it, in say, California. I assumed that the EPA simply were unaware of the practice. Best, Pete. Edited October 29, 2014 by trisonic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold geoff Posted October 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2014 5 December 2013, Kettering yard. Geoff 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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