RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 26, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2014 in second shot you do wonder how close the 70 will be to old tunnel/bridge roofs. They dont fit through some tunnels, meir tunnel in stoke they can go through in the derby-stoke direction but not back through in the stoke-derby direction! Similarly wrexham to bidston they can go to dee marsh from wrexham but are banned beyond there as they cant get through heswall station Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 so probably quite abit of the older network unavailable to CL70`s should future freight work expand some what. which should help the 56`s & 37`s keep going longer etc where these wont fit. Thanks to Mick`s shot most wouldn't have known the height difference like me for starters. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted July 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) They dont fit through some tunnels, meir tunnel in stoke they can go through in the derby-stoke direction but not back through in the stoke-derby direction! Similarly wrexham to bidston they can go to dee marsh from wrexham but are banned beyond there as they cant get through heswall station So they got the dimension wrong. Edited July 26, 2014 by Trainshed Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) so probably quite abit of the older network unavailable to CL70`s should future freight work expand some what. which should help the 56`s & 37`s keep going longer etc where these wont fit. Thanks to Mick`s shot most wouldn't have known the height difference like me for starters. There isn't a significant height difference - the angle of my pic is a bit misleading - see the first pic. It's more likely that as the 70 is longer, the "kinematic envelope" is much larger - especially with the larger/squarer cabs. Cheers, Mick Edited July 26, 2014 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 26, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2014 There isnt much of the network they cant go over because of dimensions, no more than a class 66, ive got the full list of up to daye banned places on my ipad and its only 5 pages long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 But how big are the pages Jim !!! Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean hpw Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Just read this through, fantastic photos and insight into railways ass the are now! Please keep the photos coming Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Just read this through, fantastic photos and insight into railways ass the are now! Please keep the photos coming Sean Why would you want to have a sight into the railway ass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean hpw Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 HAHAHA m bad, i am half asleep here Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post big jim Posted July 31, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2014 had a daytime job today so a chance to get some piccies did the sinfin tanks from crewe to derby and back, you get a little break in derby station in the middle so grabbed a few shots there and when back in crewe loco for the day, 56302 66232 on a washwood heath cemex job. note the new "london road" bridge behind, it looks like they will slide it in place over the tracks but i may be wrong voyager 156 off to crewe 66952 on a rugeley to hunslet sidings turn voyager 56302 sat in the bay 66954 on the goods at st andrews and passing 66513 on a coal service and into crewe and home and that was that! 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smasher2009 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Cracking pictures. I came and had a look at dinner while you were parked up waiting to collect the tanks. Where you stopped meant a decent view of the engine for a change, last week it was hiding down the line in the trees. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 A great day with a great motor - perfect day I`d say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 31, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2014 Cracking pictures. I came and had a look at dinner while you were parked up waiting to collect the tanks. Where you stopped meant a decent view of the engine for a change, last week it was hiding down the line in the trees. i always get the signaller to drop me in the carriage sidings, i can get a decent break and some piccies 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren chpamn Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 hi jim would you know what the wagon numbers of this train as would like to model this train and being a southerner i don't get much chance to pop up that way daz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 31, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2014 hi jim would you know what the wagon numbers of this train as would like to model this train and being a southerner i don't get much chance to pop up that way daz off hand i dont know the numbers, there are a couple of different types of wagons in the consist, they are all TEAs but some have slightly smaller barrels than others, the wagons actually date from the mid to late 60s i've got a rake of the Bachmann BP green TEAs to represent this train, close enough for me! 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Fantastic and informative work as usual Jim. You have done really well in converting this old 'dyed in the wood' steam fan into someone who enjoys learning about the latest motive power - even if I'll stick to modelling the steam ones! Thank you once again, Kind regards, Jock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Cant wait to see the colas 37s on these tanks!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maudgca Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Hi I'm building a representation of this train as well (being as it wakes me up at 6.30am!). I've only got 5 TEAs at the moment, and no Colas locos, but when it was operated by EWS, 5 seemed to be the minimum number of wagons, and 9 the maximum. Colas always seem to run with 8. I've got 2 Bachmann, 2 Hornby and one Hornby chassis with a scratchbuilt barrel (I used the barrel for something else!). They're almost finished, I just need to put ladders on 2 of them (and couplings!). I think the reason for the two sizes of tank that Jim mentions is that some of the tanks were built for "Class B" products (e.g. heavy fuel oil I think), which are thicker liquids which flow better when warm, so they're loaded hot and the lagging was to keep the heat in to assist unloading. When they were converted to "Class A" (e.g. aviation fuel), the lagging was removed as these products flow better. Also, you can see on Jim's photo of the train leaving Crewe that there are two small circles on the back of the last tank, about 1/4 of the way up the barrel. I think these are blanking plates for where connections to internal steam heating coils were fitted, which were provided to heat the contents of the tank up so it could flow when being unloaded. Andrew PS - keep up the good work Jim! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 If you were driving it, who took that picture of it driving away with the tanks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 1, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2014 If you were driving it, who took that picture of it driving away with the tanks? brick on the dsd, throttle open and jump!! caught the next pendolino to warrington where i got off and jumped back on the tanks it as it passed through simples!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 And had your break while on the Pendolino Jim Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Seems reasonable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 2, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2014 nice little job today in readyness for work next week, had to move 70810 from bescot to basford hall for the engineers trains we have running between wrexham and chester in relation to the line re-doubling 70810 in bescot EWS 66194 bringing a liner into the yard stopped alongside GBRf 66746 i think someone tried to pick it up while the waterslide transfers were still a bit tacky!! the EWS train sat there for a while before it split, drew forward and set the front end of the train into an empty road you can get a good idea of whats left of the old hump from this picture and onto crewe where it was stabled with the 66 i left there yesterday (66848), 70019 for company, one of the freightliner modified ones with the toast rack on the side defiantly in freightliner country here!! and under threatening skies a 175 makes its way into the station, the picture was taken from the walking route between basford hall and the old diesel depot it lashed down not long after this, luckily i made it to my van before it did!! couple of days off now then doing a few trains between chester and crewe 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That track looks awfully lumpy in front of 66194 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That track looks awfully lumpy in front of 66194 nah built in speed bumps...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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