A Nod To Brent - a friendly thread, filled with frivolity, cream teas and pasties. Longing for the happy days in the South Hams 1947.

[57xx]

6 hours ago, 2ManySpams said:

 

Obviously colour is a very personal (and polarising) subject but that bauxite looks more like chocolate brown to me. Is it that brown in the flesh @gwrrob?

 

Don't confuse LMS bauxite with what BR later used. Quite different colours.

[57xx]

6 hours ago, gwrrob said:

 

Yes, it does have a chocolate look to it but checking it against what's offered in a tin by Precision Paint it's not far away. Consistent with other LMS wagons [D1666] I have from Rapido.

 

Corbs and crew have the LMS paint schedules for the freight liveries and am sure they have come up with a well researched colour, as you say it also matches closely with the Precisions paints. LMS Bauxite has an element of black in the mix giving the darker shade.

[Tim Dubya]

18 hours ago, 2ManySpams said:

 

Obviously colour is a very personal (and polarising) subject but that bauxite looks more like chocolate brown to me. Is it that brown in the flesh @gwrrob?

 

Having seen them in a different photographs now, they look more like the bauxite I know (and love).

 

[Tim Dubya]

Any of you crazy kids fancy a LSWR Cross Country set?  Rails have them on special for £129:50 for the 3 sets and £169:50 for the 4 carriage sets.

 

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/efe-rail-e86015-lswr-cross-country-3-coach-pack-br-sr-green

 

I'm tempted by another set but with the Toplights and LSWR Corridors* (🤞) coming, I have to calm myself down a bit.

 

* pure speculation on my part but that T3 needs some corridors behind it, surely?

 

Edited Monday at 13:10 by Tim Dubya
more coffee

[Miss Prism]

On 12/09/2024 at 12:23, gwrrob said:

 

Those insignia seem too small to me. I can't find an official dimension. Or maybe were there height variations?

 

[Miss Prism]

I've sent an enquiry to Ian Rathbone and Pete Speller.

 

[Mikkel]

9 hours ago, Miss Prism said:

Those insignia seem too small to me. I can't find an official dimension. Or maybe were there height variations?

 

Looks perfectly prototypical to me 😉 

 

 

[GMKAT7]

Good morning Rob,

 

Having seen your comment on the Little Muddle thread, all I can say is a no-day week (retirement) is better than a three day.

 

Then you can listen to all the Pistols/Clash/Stranglers/etc you want 😃

 

Cheers, Nigel.

[gwrrob]

Seen before, it's the autumn of 1957 as black pannier 16xx class , 1608 heads bunker first west with a coal train comprising of Bachmann 16T mineral wagons. This is the Model Rail/Rapido model which I still think is available.

 

 

 

[TrevorP1]

I like the weathering on that first mineral wagon! 

[gwrrob]

19 minutes ago, TrevorP1 said:

I like the weathering on that first mineral wagon! 

 

The work of the late Mick Bonwick .😟

[Miss Prism]

19 hours ago, Miss Prism said:

Those insignia seem too small to me. I can't find an official dimension. Or maybe were there height variations?

 

Silly me. I did flick through Russell, but in my haste, I didn't look at the last page!  Here is the answer, courtesy of Pete Speller.

 

 

So, the answer is 9" across the yellow. Pete adds that, according to his traced artwork, the red is 1-5/8" & the black 1-13/16" & the keyline is 1/8" black.

 

The 3'6" + 3'6" spacing is for all classes except pannier tanks, where the letters are spaced to clear the tank joints. There may be some other exceptions, but I'll leave that for another day.

 

Once again, apologies for the balls up. Somewhat egg on face, but I now know more than the textbooks say, so maybe there is a silver lining. Result!

 

 

 

 

 

[Siberian Snooper]

Now all we need is some of the more elderly pannier tanks, like the 850, 1076 and 2021 classes. A few of each made it into BR, but not necessarily, BR livery.

 

 

[melmoth]

46 minutes ago, Siberian Snooper said:

Now all we need is some of the more elderly pannier tanks, like the 850, 1076 and 2021 classes. A few of each made it into BR, but not necessarily, BR livery.

 

 

 

850s and 2021s yes, but I thought the last 1076 went in 1946?

Edited Monday at 10:01 by melmoth
spelling, as ever

[St Enodoc]

1 hour ago, Siberian Snooper said:

Now all we need is some of the more elderly pannier tanks, like the 850, 1076 and 2021 classes.

A 2021 shouldn't be far off, now that I've started my Nu-Cast kit.

[Miss Prism]

9 hours ago, melmoth said:

but I thought the last 1076 went in 1946?

 

Yes. 1287, 1585 and 1624 made it to early 1946. 1287 lived on as a stationary boiler somewhere until 1953 (so doesn't count as a running loco).

 

 

Edited Monday at 19:44 by Miss Prism
1624 included

[Siberian Snooper]

4 hours ago, melmoth said:

 

850s and 2021s yes, but I thought the last 1076 went in 1946?

 

I'm not at home and couldn't double-check the info and wiki was no use either. Sorry for any inconvenience.

 

 

[Miss Prism]

In an idle moment, I charted the withdrawal dates of the Buffalo tanks:

 

[Mikkel]

Thanks Miss P.

 

I wonder why the dip in 1933 (an unpleasant year for the world in various respects, but still).

[Miss Prism]

I guess possibly reflecting a downturn in newer replacement locos in the early-1930s slump/recession. There was a bit of a gap between the 57xx locos (1929-30) and the first batches of the 8750s in 1933 onward.

 

Edited Monday at 22:58 by Miss Prism

[Captain Kernow]

Some 2021s made it through to the mid-late 1950s and definitely in BR livery.

 

[melmoth]

35 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said:

Some 2021s made it through to the mid-late 1950s and definitely in BR livery.

 

 

Including several based at Birkenhead, which came under LM region control and were overhauled at Derby, if I remember correctly

[St Enodoc]

1 hour ago, Captain Kernow said:

Some 2021s made it through to the mid-late 1950s and definitely in BR livery.

 

Including 2182, withdrawn from St Blazey in 1955.

[Miss Prism]

 

2136 at Tyseley, 1950. Almost certainly one of the locos overhauled at Derby (or were some done at Crewe?). Red-background plates and a white circle around the power group. I don't think any of the 2021s survived to receive late crests.

 

On the 2021s, were the vacuum and steam pipe routing on the valances the reverse of the normal convention?

 

[gwrrob]

Right, what have I missed.......