RMweb Premium John Besley Posted July 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 19:30, gwrrob said: She also looks splendid as seen at Saltern Cove. No apology for shewing this shot again. Torbay Heritage weekend 2012... Apologies if I've posted it before 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 For some reason, I can't get to like Manors in black. Whether its the lining or the red name plate, I still see GW green! Same goes for Halls similarly decorated. Black, traditionally was always for goods engines especially when they got a bit grubby as it didn't show much difference. A polished 'namer' painted green and all the brass though, sets it off as befits a noble breed of locomotives🙂! Brian. 2 5 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, brianusa said: For some reason, I can't get to like Manors in black. Whether its the lining or the red name plate, I still see GW green! Same goes for Halls similarly decorated. Black, traditionally was always for goods engines especially when they got a bit grubby as it didn't show much difference. A polished 'namer' painted green and all the brass though, sets it off as befits a noble breed of locomotives🙂! Brian. Funny isn't it? One of my favourite liveries is BR lined black with red name/numberplates. Each to their own! 3 3 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted July 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2022 9 hours ago, brianusa said: For some reason, I can't get to like Manors in black. Whether its the lining or the red name plate, I still see GW green! Same goes for Halls similarly decorated. Black, traditionally was always for goods engines especially when they got a bit grubby as it didn't show much difference. A polished 'namer' painted green and all the brass though, sets it off as befits a noble breed of locomotives🙂! Brian. I don’t mind the black but the ‘LNWR’ lining and red backed plates makes me wince! 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 22, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2022 Everyone's favourite mogul again, 5391 doing the honours on an up stopping service to Exeter formed of five coaches including two very old Hornby clerestories, now in wartime brown. These have Shapeway's Dean bogies fitted and like everything else it seems, have risen in price considerably lately. More anon. 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 22, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2022 As promised a few more of Newton based Churchward mogul 5391. 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 24, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2022 Castle class 5078 Beaufort looks splendid in the South Hams afternoon sunshine whilst on a down stopper. More anon. 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 21/07/2022 at 15:56, St Enodoc said: Funny isn't it? One of my favourite liveries is BR lined black with red name/numberplates. Each to their own! Perhaps its an age thing! I was a fully fledged train spotter before 1948 and probably resented any change. It was OK for the other Big Three to go their own way but not my GWR!😇 Brian. 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 25, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2022 As promised a few more shewing Castle class 5078 Beaufort. 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 29, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 Seen before , Star class 4019 Knight Templar heads west on another stopping service. 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Where's 'Mallard' these days? Haven't seen any of his posts for a while! The CRS reports that the Friary stub has been cut back to the maintenance depot so no more docks traffic or specials to the loop. Brian. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2022 13 hours ago, brianusa said: Where's 'Mallard' these days? Haven't seen any of his posts for a while! The CRS reports that the Friary stub has been cut back to the maintenance depot so no more docks traffic or specials to the loop. Brian. It was cut back from the docks at least 12 years ago although there was stub left which appears to have gone nowhere apart from enduing adjacent to a small scrap yard a bit south of Laira Bridge. This yard is on the inland side of the railway so is not the shipbreaking site you might remember - well visible from Laira Bridge - which was known as Martins Wharf and operated by Davis & Cann (who also had a breaking yard on the Pomphlett side of the Plym). The Davis & Cann site at Martins Wharf - where I can remember warships and submarines being broken up - was closed in 1993 and that area is now the site operated by Plymouth Boatyard and Marina Ltd and very different from what used to be there. All of which means that the remaining stub of that line served virtually nothing which is presumably why it has finally succumbed. Presumably the line has not been cut back as far as the depot at Laira or has the carriage washing plant etc also been relocated? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted July 30, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: It was cut back from the docks at least 12 years ago although there was stub left which appears to have gone nowhere apart from enduing adjacent to a small scrap yard a bit south of Laira Bridge. This yard is on the inland side of the railway so is not the shipbreaking site you might remember - well visible from Laira Bridge - which was known as Martins Wharf and operated by Davis & Cann (who also had a breaking yard on the Pomphlett side of the Plym). The Davis & Cann site at Martins Wharf - where I can remember warships and submarines being broken up - was closed in 1993 and that area is now the site operated by Plymouth Boatyard and Marina Ltd and very different from what used to be there. All of which means that the remaining stub of that line served virtually nothing which is presumably why it has finally succumbed. Presumably the line has not been cut back as far as the depot at Laira or has the carriage washing plant etc also been relocated? The track now ends beyond the servicing platform approximately at the site of the old Friary Junction. The wash plants, etc. remain in their former positions. 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mike_Walker said: The track now ends beyond the servicing platform approximately at the site of the old Friary Junction. The wash plants, etc. remain in their former positions. So presumably most of that long platform on the washing machine line has been abandoned because it runs for some distance south of the site of Friary Jcn signal box and the junction itself. Edited July 30, 2022 by The Stationmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Thanks for all the input on this insignificant remnant of the Southern main line. Brian. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2022 17 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: So presumably most of that long platform on the washing machine line has been abandoned because it runs for some distance south of the site of Friary Jcn signal box and the junction itself. When I was working, I did what I could to keep the stub of line down to the scrapyard alive. There was much talk about 10 years ago of a possible scheme to relay about a quarter of a mile further on, beyond the scrap yard and the then stop blocks, to Victoria Wharf, for imported materials to be loaded to rail. This was a NR Property-led scheme, but it evidently came to nought, more's the pity. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 29/07/2022 at 21:41, brianusa said: Where's 'Mallard' these days? Haven't seen any of his posts for a while! The CRS reports that the Friary stub has been cut back to the maintenance depot so no more docks traffic or specials to the loop. Brian. Not deceased yet Brian. Just recovering from Bionic implants. Ar$£ 1 1 3 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: Not deceased yet Brian. Just recovering from Bionic implants. Ar$£ The Six Million (and twenty two) Dollar Duck?😃 Edited July 31, 2022 by Dunsignalling 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2022 Can any knowledgeable followers tell me if the mink D was still being used post war and therefore had the small lettering applied or were they withdrawn by then. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2022 Some were converted for departmental i use between 1947 and the mid 1950s so they definitely survived the war but I've no idea about the extent to which they were used in traffic by then. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenL Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Can any knowledgeable followers tell me if the mink D was still being used post war and therefore had the small lettering applied or were they withdrawn by then. Pretty sure there were still examples plodding around Robin. I’m away from my books at the mo but can look for a pic tomorrow if no one can confirm in the meantime. Edited July 31, 2022 by BenL 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, gwrrob said: Can any knowledgeable followers tell me if the mink D was still being used post war and therefore had the small lettering applied or were they withdrawn by then. GWR Wagons before 1948, vol.2 (Cheona Publications) has a photo, (dated 1949!) of a Mink D, albeit one of the 1906 V9 batch with diagonal strapping outboard of the doors, rather that the X-pattern represented in the Parkside kit. It has the BR "W" prefix added to what is clearly the GW numbering, and there is a suggestion of patch repainting to the planks above, where the small lettering would have been, if applied. No evidence of a large G W showing through, either. It's also been modernised with twin-bonnet ends, a modification I would expect to be shared with other post-war survivors. I'm doing one (a V11 with much-modification of the kit's underframe) in Enparts guise and have substituted CooperCraft ends. AIUI few, if any, Minks retained the earlier ventilation arrangements beyond the 1930s (I stand to be corrected on that as I have only a "working knowledge" of the subject). The planks on my replacement ends don't line up with those on the sides, but photos show they didn't tally on the real things, either, and the discrepancy looks spot-on. 😇 John Edited July 31, 2022 by Dunsignalling Paragraph 2 expanded for clarity 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted July 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 hours ago, gwrrob said: Can any knowledgeable followers tell me if the mink D was still being used post war and therefore had the small lettering applied or were they withdrawn by then. it would certainly be a smaller size G W, I can ask the oracle- though with his recent bereavement an answer may take some time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oil-burner Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 First shot: Great Western Wagons Appendix page 30 has a pic of a Mink D on a moving train in 1948, small lettering and, maybe coincidentally, numbered 28909! This shot is also in the wagons Bible, quoted as HMRS 122.38 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 1, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) Another RMweb member @lofty1966 has modelled one in the livery. Edited August 1, 2022 by gwrrob added detail. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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