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Should it be carrying lamps or discs?   Only reason for asking is that I'm not at all sure which it should be without doing a major photo delve.

 

As it was done by SR modeller deluxe, Graham Muz, it will be correct.

 

Talking of lamps though and I'm finally getting round to detailing the Bachmann shunters truck.Where were the lamps when shunting a rake of wagons ,when the truck was between the loco and the wagons. Were they red or white lenses ?

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As it was done by SR modeller deluxe, Graham Muz, it will be correct.

 

Talking of lamps though and I'm finally getting round to detailing the Bachmann shunters truck.Where were the lamps when shunting a rake of wagons ,when the truck was between the loco and the wagons. Were they red or white lenses ?

 

Ah, so you need pilot lamps, and obviously proper job GWR style of course.  

 

Simples.  As far as the engine is concered a single red lamp at each end - at the foot of the chimney at the front and on the top bracket on the  bunker on the back.  If a shunting track is attached to the engine then the red light at that end has to be move from the engine lamp bracket to the lamp bracket at the outer end of the shunting truck.

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Ah, so you need pilot lamps, and obviously proper job GWR style of course.  

 

Simples.  As far as the engine is concered a single red lamp at each end - at the foot of the chimney at the front and on the top bracket on the  bunker on the back.  If a shunting track is attached to the engine then the red light at that end has to be move from the engine lamp bracket to the lamp bracket at the outer end of the shunting truck.

 

I don't suppose you have a photo to share Mike. ;) 

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Should it be carrying lamps or discs?   Only reason for asking is that I'm not at all sure which it should be without doing a major photo delve.

The only photograph that I can readily find of a SR engine on the GWR South Devon mainline shows niether lamps nor discs.  It is a Bullied pacific though so presumably any indication is shewn by the engines own electric marker lamps.  As an aside to this, was the arrangement of using SR engines on the GWR main line and GWR engines on the LSWR/SR line also a pre-war arrangement - I don't recall seeing any photographs or references to such workings before WW2?  It may well have been a wartime arrngement to keep services moving in the event of bomb damage that continued on after the war - I really don't know.

 

Where SR engines worked over the GWR elsewhere - between Dorchester Junction and Weymouth - they carried a pair of discs with one over each buffer which could be the equivalent of class A lamps.  This arrangement went back to LSWR days so far as I know.  The Portsmouth - Bristol trains running over the GWR from Salisbury carried the same headcode although the only photos I have seen shew the SR engines carrying lamps rather than discs.

 

I'm not actually sure if any of this helps!

 

Gerry

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I wonder what sort of lamps you would use on this loco a couple of Tilly lamps maybe or a bonfire on the cab roof.  :rofl:

I was in tears of laughter when I set eyes on this Cuban Sugar Cane Factory railway more photo's to follow. 

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Ah, so you need pilot lamps, and obviously proper job GWR style of course.  

 

Simples.  As far as the engine is concered a single red lamp at each end - at the foot of the chimney at the front and on the top bracket on the  bunker on the back.  If a shunting track is attached to the engine then the red light at that end has to be move from the engine lamp bracket to the lamp bracket at the outer end of the shunting truck.

 

As I'd already glued a lamp for branch use I'm afraid this is a compromise when shunting with 4870.I believe panniers were used at NA for this job.Smith's instanters  were used.

 

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I've 2 shunters trucks one set up for shunting complete with a Dart castings shunter hanging off the side handrail and one minus the shunter and correctly lamped for travelling back to the shed.

 

 

 

 

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Seen near Wrexham in 1947

 

 

 

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No I cannot tell a lie....Western Canada 2017 earlier today

 

 

 

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That there is genuine Canadian dust......its still on the weathering line but at least now has engraved plates and the route indicator is correct colour and in right location.

 

Rob I do like your 14xx photos......you seem to be using the loco a lot. I am guessing you are as happy as I am with its running performance? I have found the more I use them the better they seem to run.

 

Best wishes

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How about this for (front) Gated Stock it knocks the pants off the new Kernow one, it's a rail motor and was used for carrying the workforce around the plantation and yes it still running just.  :D  

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I wonder what sort of lamps you would use on this loco a couple of Tilly lamps maybe or a bonfire on the cab roof.  :rofl:

I was in tears of laughter when I set eyes on this Cuban Sugar Cane Factory railway more photo's to follow. 

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Fantastic find, I'd be hugely worried by being anywhere near that when in steam. Looks fit to blow given half a chance.

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Fantastic find, I'd be hugely worried by being anywhere near that when in steam. Looks fit to blow given half a chance.

I didn't rush to the front for that reason.

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