A Nod To Brent - a friendly thread, filled with frivolity, cream teas and pasties. Longing for the happy days in the South Hams 1947.

[NHY 581]

You mean the Oakhill Brewery Railway, presumably?

 

Yes and the S&DJR at Binegar.

 

Rob.

[Mulgabill]

We should have voted for the 43xx on the Santa Special. It might have finally got a clean up!

[colin penfold]

We should have voted for the 43xx on the Santa Special. It might have finally got a clean up!

 

Nooooooooooooo!!!!!

 

F. Ilthy

Hon Sec

 

KTFMF

 

(Keep the Filthy Mogul Filthy)

[gwrrob]

Nooooooooooooo!!!!!

 

F. Ilthy

Hon Sec

 

KTFMF

 

(Keep the Filthy Mogul Filthy)

 

Absolutely but I can't promise any newly announced model will be kept in the same state.

[Limpley Stoker]

Absolutely but I can't promise any newly announced model will be kept in the same state.

Well I can't get my cattle into my new SR cattle wagon because to they are spooked by the satin finish and the orange floor. Poor things thought they were going on a holiday to Devon!

[Edwardian]

No 22 and the Quaker Coffee House would work for me. I was surprised by the number of decent pubs on the Darlo Camra website. It is 15 years sine I spent much of an evening in Darlo.

 

Of course for some beer is a hobby, so may not count as a non-hobby reason.

 

Sorry

 

Oakhill

 

Thanks.  Salvation is in sight.

 

Now that we are getting all colloquial, although it is not that far from Barney to Darlo, I find I don't get the chance to go there, or anywhere, really, very often.

 

I discover, however, that I must return to The Smoke later this week, so will hopefully be able to pick up a copy from WH Smiths at the station. 

 

Life is made tolerable by means of Little Victories.

 

Hurrah!

[edcayton]

Nice to see this in the new BRM. Gave an over-view which was easy to read, problem is I'm now trawling through twenty odd thousand pages looking for stuff!

 

Ed

[gwrrob]

http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/gwr-4-6-0-drysllwyn-castle-4073-castle-class.html

 

Although a while away from release I had forgot about this Castle.Is this ok for a straight rename to 5071 'Spitfire' ?

[Mallard60022]

Ummmmm. Castle(s). Must not think about these locomotives.

P

[Stephen Freeman]

http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/gwr-4-6-0-drysllwyn-castle-4073-castle-class.html

 

Although a while away from release I had forgot about this Castle.Is this ok for a straight rename to 5071 'Spitfire' ?

Caerphilly Castle was 4073, Drysllwyn 7018/5051, the latter was built under BR in 1950. I presume your area of concern is mainly the front cylinder coversand mechanical lubricator, so unlikely if its Caerphilly. Anything after 5012 in your period I think would have the later style but most were added later..Jus depends exactly what Hornby are up to. Just had a look Oh dear wrong number and livery! What a surprise! If picture is correct its only suitable for later Castles. So in your case probably OK to rename.

Edited December 6, 2016 by Stephen Freeman

[gwrrob]

Caerphilly Castle was 4073, Drysllwyn 7018/5051, the latter was built under BR in 1950. I presume your area of concern is mainly the front cylinder coversand mechanical lubricator, so unlikely if its Caerphilly. Anything after 5012 in your period I think would have the later style but most were added later..Jus depends exactly what Hornby are up to. Just had a look Oh dear wrong number and livery! What a surprise! If picture is correct its only suitable for later Castles. So in your case probably OK to rename.

The usual Hornby ambiguity then.

[The Fatadder]

http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/gwr-4-6-0-drysllwyn-castle-4073-castle-class.html

 

Although a while away from release I had forgot about this Castle.Is this ok for a straight rename to 5071 'Spitfire' ?

I think I am right in saying (having checked the books) that if Hornby do the job properly it should be perfect for renunbering (and removing the footplate lining) to get Spirfire in 1947 condition (having got rid of the 8 wheel tender in 1942 and regained a standard 4000gl Collett

 

I have been thinking about doing the same loco, though may well end up either doing Fairly Battle if I find another cheap Wellington or Brunel (or decide you can't have too many castles and go for both!) Either way I suspect Drysllwyn will sell out a lot faster than Wellington...

[gwrrob]

It doesn't help that the name Drysllwyn was used on three different numbered Castles.

[The Fatadder]

It doesn't help that the name Drysllwyn was used on three different numbered Castles.

Well the Hornby mock up shows 5076, so that was the loco I looked up.  But checking back to the book, 5051 would also be ok.

 

Clearly the final loco to carry the name will not be the state of the Hornby model given it is being released in Shirtbutton livery. 

[gwrrob]

http://www.didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/locos/5051/5051.html

5051 would only be suitable in that shirtbutton livery for May '36- August '37.

Edited December 6, 2016 by gwrrob

[The Fatadder]

http://www.didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/locos/5051/5051.html

 

5051 would only be suitable in that livery for May '36- August '37.

and 5076 only suitable Aug 38 - Jan 41

[The Stationmaster]

I think I am right in saying (having checked the books) that if Hornby do the job properly it should be perfect for renunbering (and removing the footplate lining) to get Spirfire in 1947 condition (having got rid of the 8 wheel tender in 1942 and regained a standard 4000gl Collett

 

I have been thinking about doing the same loco, though may well end up either doing Fairly Battle if I find another cheap Wellington or Brunel (or decide you can't have too many castles and go for both!) Either way I suspect Drysllwyn will sell out a lot faster than Wellington...

 

The only thing which might be wrong (and it is on the Hornby pic!) is the cover over the inside cylinders which was probably not altered to the final pattern until 1948.  Otherwise it all looks ok and the boiler is right for 1947. 

[Clearwater]

and 5076 only suitable Aug 38 - Jan 41

That's a longer range than 4500 in the Queen of Scots pack that was renamed less than a year after being built

[gwrrob]

Correct as usual Mike. According to the book of Castles, the 5013 series [1932-39] numbers 5013-82 and 5093-97 were built with straight frames and wide box shaped inside valve casings and curved front edge.This was altered as Mike says to a squared edge after 1948.The Hornby website pic shews this and a mention to the guy in the R & D might be in order like I did with the Star.

[bgman]

I do love an old boiler in a Castle but the top Shirtbutton does need to be undone when ya stoke it up Phewee !

 

 

C. Oppertube

[Mallard60022]

There is an old boiler in a castle sometimes in Scotland at Christmas and new year.

I suspect I shall now be 'eliminated'.

Charles Windsor.

[bgman]

There is an old boiler in a castle sometimes in Scotland at Christmas and new year.

I suspect I shall now be 'eliminated'.

Charles Windsor.

Arise Sir Mallardious you are duly honoured !

[Limpley Stoker]

There is an old boiler in a castle sometimes in Scotland at Christmas and new year.

I suspect I shall now be 'eliminated'.

Charles Windsor.

Sandringham now runs on biomass boilers so one no longer sees one's breath while giving the Christmas Message to camera !

[Siberian Snooper]

I do love an old boiler in a Castle but the top Shirtbutton does need to be undone when ya stoke it up Phewee !

 

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C. Oppertube

 

No stoking there! they's oil fired, just adjust a couple of valves. First time I've seen sprayers on a smoke tube boiler.

[Limpley Stoker]

No stoking there! they's oil fired, just adjust a couple of valves. First time I've seen sprayers on a smoke tube boiler.

So oil-burning Castles are appropriate for 1947 - but not a pretty sight!