Hobby Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 3 hours ago, newbryford said: we'll be insisting on passengers wearing seatbelts next. Ever tried to herd cats? 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2021 5 hours ago, newbryford said: As well as strapping down catering trolleys, we'll be insisting on passengers wearing seatbelts next. after the Ufton nervet crash one of the parents of someone sadly killed there after being thrown from the train was campaigning to get seat belts fitted to passenger trains, obviously the plan never gained any ground http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4542952.stm 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Getting rid of level crossings would be a far better idea, perhaps at the very least going back to old style full gated ones with substantial gates... Best to stop the "interface" between vehicle and train of you want to prevent the majority of such incidents. Actually what the RMT have campaigned for in the past, though the cost would be horrendous, in monetary terms anyhow... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 20, 2021 More sillyness, this time Kearney Nebraska: 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Hobby said: Getting rid of level crossings would be a far better idea, perhaps at the very least going back to old style full gated ones with substantial gates... Best to stop the "interface" between vehicle and train of you want to prevent the majority of such incidents. Actually what the RMT have campaigned for in the past, though the cost would be horrendous, in monetary terms anyhow... A heavy duty version of those bollards that rise up out of the ground to close off pedestrianised areas in towns might do the trick rather better than gates or barriers. John 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Dunsignalling said: A heavy duty version of those bollards that rise up out of the ground to close off pedestrianised areas in towns might do the trick rather better than gates or barriers. John A cheaper idea might be those sprung steel plates to be found at the entrances to car parks and similar. When a vehicle approaches in the 'right' direction, the plates descend, and sit flush to the road surface. If a vehicle approaches the 'wrong' way, then it encounters the plate at a 45 degree angle. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) Don't the Russians do that, Brian? I'm sure we had a video on this thread, probably years ago, showing a BMW coming to grief on a set. Edit - found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UceuB5HZHas Edited June 21, 2021 by jwealleans 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: A cheaper idea might be those sprung steel plates to be found at the entrances to car parks and similar. When a vehicle approaches in the 'right' direction, the plates descend, and sit flush to the road surface. If a vehicle approaches the 'wrong' way, then it encounters the plate at a 45 degree angle. That idea could be used to sort out the zig-zaggers at AHB crossings rather well. John 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnofwessex Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Tank Trap? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: A heavy duty version of those bollards that rise up out of the ground to close off pedestrianised areas in towns might do the trick rather better than gates or barriers. John They have those fitted to a bus only lane in East Ham, London. A few times car drivers have tried to sneak through behind a bus. It was happening so often that they had a platform lorry with a Hi-ab standing by. Invariably the cars were so badly damaged that they were written off. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Fat Controller said: A cheaper idea might be those sprung steel plates to be found at the entrances to car parks and similar. When a vehicle approaches in the 'right' direction, the plates descend, and sit flush to the road surface. If a vehicle approaches the 'wrong' way, then it encounters the plate at a 45 degree angle. Good way of stopping boy racers in the six-foot. The approaching train should finish the job properly. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted June 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2021 Not a level crossing matter, but those shunters in the American video are interesting. At least one looked brand new and several had what may have been a Spanish name on the side. I wonder if they were being delivered rather than hauling the train. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said: Not a level crossing matter, but those shunters in the American video are interesting. At least one looked brand new and several had what may have been a Spanish name on the side. I wonder if they were being delivered rather than hauling the train. Jonathan More likely a positioning move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wickham Green too Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 MY conclusion is that locos blocking the view of an oncoming train are irrelevant - they're not blocking the view of the barriers and lights. Incidentally - is that the straightest route they could have put a passenger train on ...... must spill a few cups of coffee ! 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted July 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2021 Just when you thought the message might be sinking home: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57738291 Mind you I am not sure any trains were running on the line at the time because of work on bridges. Jonathan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 What's the phrase we were taught as soon as we started on the railways... "Regard any track as live and treat it that way". 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 I think the parents are riding for a fall there? Imagine, if you will, in 20 years time, when the child has seriously fallen out with parent? This photo album will definately be used as evidence Mum tried to off her offspring using a train to do the job, when they were little... Imagine in 10 years time, when said child decides to phone childline cos it cannot get its way?.....This photo will be used, etcc.... Mum seems blissfully unaware of what may lie just around the corner of life.... 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 4 hours ago, alastairq said: I think the parents are riding for a fall there? Imagine, if you will, in 20 years time, when the child has seriously fallen out with parent? This photo album will definately be used as evidence Mum tried to off her offspring using a train to do the job, when they were little... Imagine in 10 years time, when said child decides to phone childline cos it cannot get its way?.....This photo will be used, etcc.... Mum seems blissfully unaware of what may lie just around the corner of life.... Clearly Mum lacked in the full quota of courses in Parental Training... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Then when a child gets hit by a train the parents will shout that its the railways fault (as happened a couple of years ago) 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 22 hours ago, jcredfer said: Clearly Mum lacked in the full quota of courses in Parental Training... I think the expression is 'passed the practical but failed the theory...', to paraphrase a line from a Terry Pratchett book 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Radford Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 On 21/06/2021 at 16:40, Dunsignalling said: A heavy duty version of those bollards that rise up out of the ground to close off pedestrianised areas in towns might do the trick rather better than gates or barriers. John They used to have them on Burton High Street but the road was forever blocked by cars with bollards through their sumps so they have been removed! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Bill Radford said: They used to have them on Burton High Street but the road was forever blocked by cars with bollards through their sumps so they have been removed! I'd have thought that was a good reason for installing more. To get more idiot drivers and their cars off the road. ;-) 1 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 The excuse was that they didn't see the signs! Probably because they were so close behind the bus in an attempt to get through. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Bill Radford said: They used to have them on Burton High Street but the road was forever blocked by cars with bollards through their sumps so they have been removed! Are these ones in Manchester still in place? (Have to say I can't help agreeing with the comment from Dave Crupel six months ago*.) 3 hours ago, grahame said: I'd have thought that was a good reason for installing more. Indeed. 1 hour ago, laurenceb said: The excuse was that they didn't see the signs That's the reason they did what they - it doesn't really excuse it. As they hopefully found out soon afterwards when the fines & bills started appearing on their door mat. * As of the date I watched the video clip. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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