railsquid Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 22:15, Hobby said: http://www.ukroads.org/webfiles/highway_legislation_for_tramcars_technical_guidance_note4.pdf Love the fact they've used a picture of a Continental tram as the header photo! (Somewhere in Germany by the look of it) A bit late to the party but that's a Berlin tram (refurbished Tatra) on the former east Berlin network. https://moovitapp.com/index/de/ÖPNV-line-62-BerlinBrandenburg-1663-852203-581778-0 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) On 26/10/2019 at 04:57, PatB said: D*£&#ead on a Chinese mini bike by the looks of it. Lots of them over here too. Very common immediately after Christmas, then steadily reducing in numbers over the year as the machinery succumbs to poor build quality, 14 year old mechanical sympathy, lack of maintenance and dodgy "performance" modifications. ................. and getting crushed under Javelins I'd guess. Edited October 28, 2019 by Wickham Green 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fat Controller Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said: A friend's father used to work on the Swansea Dock system. He got fed up of people stopping the job by parking too close to the track, and decided to teach them a lesson. He saw a 'Gane' bogie bolster, probably the longest wagon in daily use, and coupled it into the train he was transferring from one end of the system to the other. The overhang on the many curves caused the Gane to swipe many vehicles, hopefully deterring them from careless parking in the future. 2 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2019 Now I know what WTF in Russian is 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 Alas no more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raptWPQbkMg But only by 8". 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, PhilJ W said: Alas no more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raptWPQbkMg But only by 8". Did they just make the bridge support structure 8” higher or actually raise the bridge? Cannot believe they’d raise a bridge rather than dig the road slightly deeper.......surely less “engineering” involved. Edit : oops, now watched the video yes just made the bridge “more compatible” with road traffic.......now we can have the videos titled 12’4” bridge collapses ’ Edited October 30, 2019 by boxbrownie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 probably mains water sewers etc under the road.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, TheQ said: probably mains water sewers etc under the road.. Harder than raising the track maybe a half mile each side (or maybe just a quarter mile) each side of the bridge? Railways hate inclines..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I'd imagine the US builders of commercial vehicle bodies are not going to be happy.... 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) The commentary on one video said they are raising the 11'8" bridge to the 'same grade' as the neighbouring level crossing, so presumably it means they are levelling out the rail line, with a slightly steeper bit the other side. They've got some scope for doing some road resurfacing now... Edited October 30, 2019 by talisman56 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, boxbrownie said: Railways hate inclines..... Modern railways rather less so than old ones. HS1 has gradients that would've been ridiculously severe for a main line a century ago (quite a few bits of 1:40). Edited October 30, 2019 by Reorte 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Reorte said: Modern railways rather less so than old ones. HS1 has gradients that would've been ridiculously severe for a main line a century ago (quite a few bits of 1:40). The trains are going a bit faster so they have more momentum to get to the top of the steeper bits... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Reorte said: Modern railways rather less so than old ones. HS1 has gradients that would've been ridiculously severe for a main line a century ago (quite a few bits of 1:40). HS1 is a purpose built passenger railway, not for heavy freight. In comparison any freight that is on HS1 is high speed and low train weight! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, talisman56 said: The trains are going a bit faster so they have more momentum to get to the top of the steeper bits... And a lot more power e.g. the 16 car class 374s are no less than 21000hp. Compare that to 7980hp for 11 car 390 or a 6480hp for a class 91 + 9 coaches Edited October 30, 2019 by melmerby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, melmerby said: And a lot more power e.g. the 16 car class 374s are no less than 21000hp. Compare that to 7980hp for 11 car 390 or a 6480hp for a class 91 + 9 coaches Or 2580bhp for a bog standard, derated Class 47. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The horsepower thing does not was with me, timing loads are more important. Then there is the difference between a class 33 & 37 both type 3 power designation but from memory totally different in the loads book. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, boxbrownie said: Railways hate inclines..... Sorry but I still stand by my statement, ANY railway construction would love to have a level grade from A to B......regardless of train weight, power, grip etc etc. But then this is RMWeb 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: Sorry but I still stand by my statement, ANY railway construction would love to have a level grade from A to B......regardless of train weight, power, grip etc etc. But then this is RMWeb Are you suggesting that people here are inclined to go down the slippery slope of spurious arguments which give rise to all sorts of theories and wibble? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Mark Saunders said: The horsepower thing does not was with me, timing loads are more important. Then there is the difference between a class 33 & 37 both type 3 power designation but from memory totally different in the loads book. Mark Saunders So you are sayingthe 21000hp for the 374 doesn't mean anything. Codswallop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 OK everyone, point taken! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 26/10/2019 at 18:01, Mark Saunders said: The colour of the bridge number plate shows ownership! White Railway Red Private Blue Motorways Mark Saunders you learn something everyday! I now have an answer for my trainees when they ask why the new footbridge east of Tamworth high level has a red plate (the only one I’ve ever seen!) 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, JDW said: Are you suggesting that people here are inclined to go down the slippery slope of spurious arguments which give rise to all sorts of theories and wibble? I would have said that but prefer not to use rude words like wibble 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 (Early) Railways don't like inclines. The incline out of Manchester Victoria, heading east, is 1 in 49 AND IS steep. If you use this gradient as a minimum and that bridge is raised only 1 foot then you would need just 49 feet either side as minimum banks up and down to the new height. Ok, add a few more feet so that the transitions are smooth and avoid any "grounding" of vehicle underslung equipment, (and some more for smooth riding of the fastest trains), but you are not looking at half a mile each side of the bridge of banking rework. Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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