royaloak Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Red and green flags have not been updated in years! Neither have those wonky signals, okay the wires that operate them might have been changed every 20 or 30 years but the levers, interlocking and signals are probably the same, how long do these digital systems last? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Spoke too soon about there not being anything in the news https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/sheringham-level-crossing-car-train-crash-1-5784057 Those lights sound bright: 'Howard Denner was at Sheringham Golf Club at the time the crash happened and said: “I heard the level crossing flashing then there was a big crash.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Those lights sound bright: 'Howard Denner was at Sheringham Golf Club at the time the crash happened and said: “I heard the level crossing flashing then there was a big crash.' Normal for Norfolk. Pete, Sheringham resident, and at age 51, possibly the youngest adult male in the town... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted November 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2018 Somebody will no doubt complain about the Y14 Holden up the traffic... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Someone in authority should throw the book at him, the Highway Code! Does it come in a hardback version? It'll be more effective... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2018 Those lights sound bright: 'Howard Denner was at Sheringham Golf Club at the time the crash happened and said: “I heard the level crossing flashing then there was a big crash.' A very important independent quote, though, if any evidence were needed, that the crossing was operating correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Somebody will no doubt complain about the Y14 Holden up the traffic... That's the Worsdell one I've heard, given who designed them originally! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted November 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2018 That's the Worsdell one I've heard, given who designed them originally! I let it go cos Holden continued to build them But you are of course correct, the Y14 was a Wordsell design Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2018 A very important independent quote, though, if any evidence were needed, that the crossing was operating correctly. Agreed & I'm sure the 'sound' of lights flashing will be accepted for what the witness meant. If a witness noted the crossing was working, then the car driver ought to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Agreed & I'm sure the 'sound' of lights flashing will be accepted for what the witness meant. If a witness noted the crossing was working, then the car driver ought to. Maybe his SatNav didn't tell him the lights were flashing - and he couldn't here them above the car radio. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2018 Agreed & I'm sure the 'sound' of lights flashing will be accepted for what the witness meant. If a witness noted the crossing was working, then the car driver ought to. It was correctly quoted in a local media report where it says that gentleman saw the lights flashing and heard the audible signal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Maybe his SatNav didn't tell him the lights were flashing - and he couldn't here them above the car radio. I think the above maybe said in jest, but that's a very poor argument, if he is driving 'head down' and engrossed in his stereo that is driving without due care and attention. Plus, even if he was, I would propose it would be quite difficult to miss a big black, red and blue thing with steam coming out of it! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) It was correctly quoted in a local media report where it says that gentleman saw the lights flashing and heard the audible signal. To be fair, you don't know which is the correct quote. The local media reporter might have been on the ball, thought WTF? and corrected it. Edited November 19, 2018 by Talltim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I think the above maybe said in jest, but that's a very poor argument, if he is driving 'head down' and engrossed in his stereo that is driving without due care and attention. Plus, even if he was, I would propose it would be quite difficult to miss a big black, red and blue thing with steam coming out of it! Simon No argument whatsoever .......... the guy didn't see / chose to ignore / thought he could beat the big black, red and blue thing with steam coming out of it ................. driving without care and attention ? - most certainly ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Near here on the main BNSF/UP line, there is a grade/level crossing with barriers and lights which is a favourite spot for joggers to jog themselves into eternity. Just recently a jogger, complete with headphones waited for the train on the nearest track to pass and promptly ran into another from the opposite direction on the second track. Apparently she was jogging in place waiting and just carried on, omitting to look in both directions again. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MarkC Posted November 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2018 Near here on the main BNSF/UP line, there is a grade/level crossing with barriers and lights which is a favourite spot for joggers to jog themselves into eternity. Just recently a jogger, complete with headphones waited for the train on the nearest track to pass and promptly ran into another from the opposite direction on the second track. Apparently she was jogging in place waiting and just carried on, omitting to look in both directions again. Brian. Darwin Award Winner... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Near here on the main BNSF/UP line, there is a grade/level crossing with barriers and lights which is a favourite spot for joggers to jog themselves into eternity. Just recently a jogger, complete with headphones waited for the train on the nearest track to pass and promptly ran into another from the opposite direction on the second track. Apparently she was jogging in place waiting and just carried on, omitting to look in both directions again. Brian. Stepping out from behind one train and under another is a very easy way to kill yourself. To the extent that it was one of the things we were warned about in the somewhat basic PW safety training BR did forty years ago before you were allowed to wander about the track on your own. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Stepping out from behind one train and under another is a very easy way to kill yourself. To the extent that it was one of the things we were warned about in the somewhat basic PW safety training BR did forty years ago before you were allowed to wander about the track on your own. When having a cab-ride from St-Lazare to Le Havre, I noticed the driver sounded his horn when approaching any station where there was already a train on the other platform. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 It used to be in the rule book that we did this, it's been removed now but my hand always hovers over the horn lever when passing through stations where another train is on the adjacent line. Better safe than sorry. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2018 It’s my biggest fear/worry while out driving, I always blow the horn at the rear of a train going the other way if there is a crossing in view I’m like nidge, hand over the horn when passing a stationary train in a platform, just in case 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 21, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2018 Near here on the main BNSF/UP line, there is a grade/level crossing with barriers and lights which is a favourite spot for joggers to jog themselves into eternity. Just recently a jogger, complete with headphones waited for the train on the nearest track to pass and promptly ran into another from the opposite direction on the second track. Apparently she was jogging in place waiting and just carried on, omitting to look in both directions again. Brian. According to some news reports she was wearing earplugs listening to music on her tablet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 According to some news reports she was wearing earplugs listening to music on her tablet. Earplugs or headphones makes little difference ..... chances are she was wearing a pair of blinkers shades to further isolate her from the outside world too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 There';s plenty of them walking out into the roads, let alone level crossings... they don't half give you the finger when you sound your horn to warn them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 There';s plenty of them walking out into the roads, let alone level crossings... they don't half give you the finger when you sound your horn to warn them! It makes me wonder how they have lived so long! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted November 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2018 It makes me wonder how they have lived so long! Didn't you know, running's good for you ??? They will live much longer (provided they don't get hit by trains, cars or whatever) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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