RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2018 Which makes it all the stranger that anyone should use a green flag/lamp handsignal under any circumstances. Jim A green light is still used in shunting at night of course (to the extent that any shunting still takes place at night using handsignals) and it makes considerable sense as green is very obviously different from white to the extent that yellow wouldn't be in some lighting etc conditions. The only other green handsignal which now seems to be in the Rule Book is that used at a level crossing as mentioned in an earlier post. However unfortunately for reasons I can't honestly fathom handsignals are now spread all over the place in the RSSN Rule Book - which is definitely not the format I follow when writing a Rule Book (and I also avoid the ambiguity/inadequacy contained in some of the RSSB's entries in respect of handsignals where the 'simpleton English' they use has reduced the distinction between some handsignals (particularly those involving a green light). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) I have in the not too distant past received a green ‘ipad Screen’ as my authority to pass over a crossing under local control as the crossing attendant forgot his lamp and flags! As mike says the green light at night is relevant, telling me to move slowly while shunting, can’t quite remember off hand if the signal to do a braketest is also a green lamp twisted side to side or a white one, this day and age it’s all done by 2 way radio! Regards yellow flags passing signals at danger with a handsignaller I see it as “if ive just passed a yellow then I treat the next signal as being red” Edited November 13, 2018 by big jim 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted November 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2018 Getting back to Onibury, the guy that turned up on the night (the car was back on its wheels by then) took this pic of the pedestal that got hit and mused about the prospect of him working there when something like that happens............ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I have in the not too distant past received a green ‘ipad Screen’ as my authority to pass over a crossing under local control as the crossing attendant forgot his lamp and flags! I remember many years ago shunting back with a long train,looking back thinking we must be nearly there now when the white light suddenly changed into a strange orange, when the guard walked up he said that his bardic had jammed -not unusual- so he had shone it through his Orange dustcoat. Quick thinking I thought- seems they were from the same school 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2018 I remember many years ago shunting back with a long train,looking back thinking we must be nearly there now when the white light suddenly changed into a strange orange, when the guard walked up he said that his bardic had jammed -not unusual- so he had shone it through his Orange dustcoat. Quick thinking I thought- seems they were from the same school That was the cause of a spad in a possession back in 2002 at Rockcliffe hall, can’t remember the ins and outs but the driver saw a yellow(ish) light and passed the signal but it was a torch/bardic that had been accidentally left on in a pocket of a track worker stood near the signal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2018 Getting back to Onibury, the guy that turned up on the night (the car was back on its wheels by then) took this pic of the pedestal that got hit and mused about the prospect of him working there when something like that happens............ Image%20Today%20at%2010_01_47.jpg Especially when you see the amount of lorry’s that use that road, if a little Aygo sized car can do that I dread to think what a fully laden log truck could do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted November 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2018 So does the old 'white is right, red is wrong and green means gently go along' still work for shunting? Andy G 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2018 'white is right, red is wrong and green means gently go along' im nicking that one for my next bunch of trainees! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted November 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2018 im nicking that one for my next bunch of trainees! I think that its origins are GW.... But is it right? Andy G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I think that its origins are GW.... But is it right? Andy G Basically yes - though like Jim I've not heard it before, and I spent all my career on the western 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted November 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2018 Getting back to Onibury, the guy that turned up on the night (the car was back on its wheels by then) took this pic of the pedestal that got hit and mused about the prospect of him working there when something like that happens............ Image%20Today%20at%2010_01_47.jpg Seeing this image I am reminded of a crossing /car bang at Pont Croesor on the Welsh Highland Railway a few years ago. A car driven by an inexperienced youth left the carriageway - by going straight on when road turned right on the level crossing - the car demolished the cross loc totally. After rebuild a piece of Armco barrier now fronts the crossing contorl loc and power loc cabinets. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2018 Spoke too soon about there not being anything in the news https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/sheringham-level-crossing-car-train-crash-1-5784057 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2018 Spoke too soon about there not being anything in the news https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/sheringham-level-crossing-car-train-crash-1-5784057 That deserves a two-shot penalty for being late on the tee.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted November 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2018 That deserves a two-shot penalty for being late on the tee.......... It's going to cost in financial terms: the driver was "a young man" and insurance premiums for young people are not cheap, and this one should go up for next year. And perhaps PC Plod should have him in court for ignoring the flashing red lights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted November 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2018 It's good to see the phrasing of the report: "A car collided with a steam train" implies the fault doesn't lie with the railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Of course nothing has to stop anybody rushing around in their busy lives ,probably he was either going to the pub or to get a packet of fags ,hope he has to pay big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) It's going to cost in financial terms: the driver was "a young man" and insurance premiums for young people are not cheap. It might be a company car/hire car. Edited November 17, 2018 by bigherb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 It might be a company car/hire car. Or his parent's. Doesn't the report say young man? Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meil Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 It's good to see the phrasing of the report: "A car collided with a steam train" implies the fault doesn't lie with the railway But good old aunty B has the steam engine ploughing into the car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted November 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) "PC Jon Parker was one of the officers on the scene of the incident and said on Twitter: “Currently on scene at a train vs car incident. Unsurprisingly, the train emerged the victor." The car driver needs to watch Clarkson's educational video about level crossings.........lucky it wasn't a 31 at speed.. Edited November 17, 2018 by ruggedpeak 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted November 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2018 Or his parent's. Doesn't the report say young man? Stewart Eyewitnesses are quoted as saying he was a young man. Bearing in mind this is Sheringham (and the golf club to boot) that will apply to anybody under 75 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzler17 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Someone in authority should throw the book at him, the Highway Code! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted November 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2018 Last time someone hit a train on a crossing in Norfolk we got top and tail 68's - here's hoping!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Sherringham today https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-46249122 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2018 It'll buff out with T-cut........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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