RMweb Gold big jim Posted March 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 thats something they dont tell you on the packaging for the poly risers!! will have to have a look at other places on the layout where the same situation may occur 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossforth Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 When I worked with Network Rail at the S&T we were always told don't mix different types of insulation on wire including rubber due to the corrosion that may happen. Looking great so far Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted March 11, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2015 Went back into the shed with a clear head earlier to try and find out why the point motor wasnt working When i powered up all the other accessory decoders worked fine but once i plugged the removable section in they stopped working so i narrowed the problem down to being somewhere on there, i then unscrewed the din plug from the wood and discovered 2 stray strands of wire touching adjacent pins which must have been causing the short as once i moved them and tried the accessory decoder again it threw the points ok so that was all cured! I then went on to setting up the point motor on the first point of the crossover which required the little plastic sliding bar on the point moving back a bit as it was struggling to throw in one direction, as i tried to slide it back it twanged off and the little metal spring thing flew off never to be seen again! Luckily i had a couple of old code 100 points one of which managed to strip down and use the spring out of but that took me a good 1/2 hour to get working properly by the time id messed about getting the new spring in! Next job im planning is possibly renewing the track on the removable section between the new points and baseboard edge as its currently made up of 2 separate pieces of 'filler' track and it would be a lot better as a single length, also somehow i've damaged the track on the main baseboard side too, the solder has come adrift, so i can use it as an opportunity to renew the lot and tidy up the baseboard join area to boot 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 14, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2015 did a bit in the shed earlier, started by removing the damaged track from the joint between the main board and removable section as well as the track i removed the pcb board from both the sections i then wired up the new point on the removable section before fitting it up hopefully removing the various bits of filler track i'd used on the removable section after fitting the points and replacing it with continious lengths will make running smoother unfortunatly thats as far as i got today as i needed to go to maplin for a new length of pcb board but i'll carry on tomorrow as i have a day off work im going to use epoxy resin type glue to fix the pcb length to the baseboard edge, solder the track to it again then possibly epoxy the track to the pcb as well for added strength/durability 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well done Jim. At least you have running capability and you syill work full time. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post big jim Posted April 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2015 Done a bit more While im rest day.... Yesterday i fitted some PCB board to the edges of the removable secion and join, i then soldered the track to it but it just didnt work so i ripped up the track (again) and replaced it (again!) I was planning to glue the track down with epoxy resin and split it with a dremel, however while looking for the tub of glue i found a length of brass box section i must have bought when i was doing some work on my old warmington layout! the box section is sleeper height so it was just a case of bonding it to the baseboard and soldering the track to it, i used evostik epoxy Once bonded i soldered the track to it And importantly split it down the centre Had a good running session with one of my Bachmann 66s and log wagons and Heljan 47 with TTA wagons to prove the track was ok, had to do a bit of adjusting in places (not on the new bit though) As the trains were running round i started to think about the scenery on the removable section, i dug out some bridge sides and loosly stuck them to the sides of the bridges I had a metcalf retaining wall kit in stock so i decided to have a play about with it, first up i made a wall on the station side Got to add a wall below the bridge and around the opposite side, going to do that with metcalfe brick sheets as i don't have the room against the low level track side Looking quite good in my opinion, i'm going to do the scenery on the removable section first before i carry on with the rest of the layout, going to add cable ducting, dummy point motors etc to the track area and a riverbank etc to the scenic side 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 That's looking good Jim. Nice to see some Scenics starting to appear. Glad you got you're track niggles sorted. Cheers Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony566 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Well done on the re-work And the bridge detail, it looks very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 That's looking very good Jim, cracking work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Great how just adding a few pieces can totally transform and upgrade the area, nice one Jim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2015 seeing the finished product up here i'm looking and thinking something doesn't look right, i may actually shorten the steel sides of the bridge so they only extend over the 'water' and extend the brick walls 'over land' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Great work on the "bridge" jim looks the part now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Looks smart that jim David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Brown Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Hi Jim, just came across your thread and read thru it. Looks like it's gonna be a cracking layout and I really like the work you done do far, well done. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinguk Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 seeing the finished product up here i'm looking and thinking something doesn't look right, i may actually shorten the steel sides of the bridge so they only extend over the 'water' and extend the brick walls 'over land' Hi Jim, I agree with you - the steel girder sides seem to extend too far at present. Am enjoying your thread a lot! Regards.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austrag Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Jim, I am a tittle concerned with the green of the stripboard and your soldering. Are you using an acid flux? When soldering electrical connections, you must use a resin flux preferably a cored solder. Otherwise the acid will ruin the wiring over time. I like everything else I see. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 17, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2015 Yes the 'green side' is my original soldering from a few years back with the wrong flux but ive changed to silver solder now and its much better and cleaner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Looking forward to more now Jim.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) back to it again todaydecided to sort out the bridge as i wasnt happy with it first up removed the peco girders and added stone walls instead while i was in the model shop earlier buying an extra metcalfe retaining wall kit and brick paper i spotted this bridge girder kit which i thought i give a go instead of the peco sides you basically build the individual panels so you can make a structure to the size you need you get the top and bottom beams in the kit but i decided to use some plastistrip angle for the bottom and the supplied parts for the top fills the space perfectly next up i fitted a column on the opposite side of the high level bridge then glued a couple of offcuts together covered the other side in brickpaper and fitted it under the bridge then a couple of columns on the other side i really didnt think i'd have the room to fit proper recessed walls on this side, i was going to use brickpaper but i managed to get a couple to fit with no messing i did have to adapt the other ones though and on the other side, when i eventually dot he scenics on the main bit i'll extend the 'stone' into the tunnel mouth its certainly tight with my longest wagons, in real life you wouldnt want to be stood there when a train passed, must invest in a load of limited clearance signs!! but the almost finished product looks a lot better than i thought it would! going back to the other side again, i added a piece to the bottom of the column so it 'beds' into the riverbank made a similar underbridge for the other side, i'll be refilling the hole in the foam when i begin the scenics made up the 2nd bridge girder and loosly fitted it up, you can also see a couple of doors on the bridge side that will be an 'authorised walking route' when i detail up, paint them as steel doors that was it, so i though but when i ran the log train round the wagons caught the outer wall as they left the removable section so i ended up moving that away from the track, i have had to add an extra column to the other edge but i'm glad i did as it looks a lot neater and will make the transition between the removable section and fixed layout a bit easier to disguise/model just need to cover the hole over with card or plasticard, once its all ballasted up it wont be noticable at all and most importantly the panel is still removable, i will have to be carefula about the card fading in the sunlight though, both when in storage on the door or in situ on the layout next up i recon i'll have a go at fitting the point motors in the yard as i've had my scenery fix this week and fancy going back to something 'technical', not sure when i'll get in the next though as the kids are back from hols today Edited April 18, 2015 by big jim 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Cracking job there young Jim, really impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Nice work jim David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony566 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 You have been busy ... love the door position for the lift out section made me smile a lot :) I am also using some of the Wills Girder sections they do look very effective. Anthony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Very nice work Jim.. Looking forward to more now.. cheers neil.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Very nice, Metcalfe have really upped their product with these kits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold fishytrains Posted April 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2015 I like the combination of both the Metcalfe kits and the Wills girders. GIves me more ideas to work with! Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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