RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) One way of doing the straps is to place a piece of masking tape on a clean piece of plastic, cut it into narrow strips with a ruler. Remove each alternate one then paint the ones left orange. Once dry lift each one as you need them and then place over the logs gluing the ends down with canopy glue. You can even give them a coat of canopy glue using your fingers prior to lifting them off the plastic to make them stronger. Can be fiddly and may need a bit of practice but I have done similar for straps. Or you could even use 1mm wide masking tape, without the need to cut into thin strips. (Goes to look for my BDA.............) EDIT: Pic added Cheers, Mick Edited September 10, 2014 by newbryford 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2014 Looking forward to the pictures of the inside of the shed when you get the nameplate up Jim! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted September 11, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2014 One way of doing the straps is to place a piece of masking tape on a clean piece of plastic, cut it into narrow strips with a ruler. Remove each alternate one then paint the ones left orange. Once dry lift each one as you need them and then place over the logs gluing the ends down with canopy glue. You can even give them a coat of canopy glue using your fingers prior to lifting them off the plastic to make them stronger. Can be fiddly and may need a bit of practice but I have done similar for straps. just had a thought while reading your idea, how about i cut up a sainsburys carrier bag into strips as its the right colour! i think a bag for life would be better though as its thicker but still flexible 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium eldavo Posted September 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2014 Beware of biodegradable carrier bags. You don't want to have to redo the straps after they all turn to dust! See if you can find some of the flat tooth floss. Its very tough and flexible. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Hi Big Jim, Apologies for swamping you with "like" notifications, only just been referred to your thread having read about it on Andy Peters Bitton thread. Fantastic stuff and highly relevant to me as I am currently lining and insulating my new shed railway room. Keep up the good work. I was previously planning to go down the non DCC traditional route but, you know, having read through your thread I'm tempted to go digital. Food for thought. But I have got quite a bit of non compatible (not DCC ready by any stretch) favourites. Hmm. Great stuff Big Jim. Regards, Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Hi Big Jim, Apologies for swamping you with "like" notifications, only just been referred to your thread having read about it on Andy Peters Bitton thread. Fantastic stuff and highly relevant to me as I am currently lining and insulating my new shed railway room. Keep up the good work. I was previously planning to go down the non DCC traditional route but, you know, having read through your thread I'm tempted to go digital. Food for thought. But I have got quite a bit of non compatible (not DCC ready by any stretch) favourites. Hmm. Great stuff Big Jim. Regards, Brian. Dont hesitate Brian...............take the plunge....there is all the help you ever needed on here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7APT7 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Hi mate Nice Colas Rail class 70 you have.... always great to see this layouts photos.... Job well done Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 12, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2014 well ive booked the electrician to come and wire the shed up, hopefully i will now be able to enjoy a few winter evenings in there with the door shut and heating on! i wont need a lighting main in there as i'm using the mains powered leds so it should be a simple job, although he is going to also be putting power to the garage and patio wall lights from that supply before it reaches the shed too, we fitted the armoured cable under the patio from the meter cupboard to the garage while it was being laid so thats the main part of the job done 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 21, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Im itching to get back into the shed this week but work is preventing me doing so, all ive managed is to get hold of a couple of low relief industrial units from the modeller which i was hoping to use in the 'oil terminal' corner of the layout, as it happens it will only fit one of them (the other does have a nice corner to go in anyway) but im going to need to move some track about to get it to fit This is the corner as it is But to fit the building im going to need to slew the tracks over, they will be parallel with the other one, may have to replace the Y point with a small radius one too, then i can put the building as shown below I can then add discharge pipes between the lines and the storage tanks pretty much on the old track alignment Edited October 21, 2014 by big jim 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Coming along great jim cheers neil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 2, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2014 despite the electricity not going in til the end of next week i managed to have a few hours in the shed earlier, ran the extension canle out and plugged in the lights and heat so i could do a bit to the corner of the layout The only ball i appear to have dropped is i've lined the lights along the centre of the ceiling above the walkway so when im working on the layout i cast a shadow right where im working, its not a huge problem though as i have a spare set of lights that i can run off the same supply and place above the layout on each side So to the corner, first thing i did was remove the track and cork underlay from the rear and relay a piece of cork next to the other one and relay the track onto it, had to add a short length to the end of it too So now the Hornby industrial unit fits nicely in the corner Next up i placed the storage tanks roughly where i want to put them, not glued together yet, may get another pair of them yet Then i decided to have a bit of a play with some of the knightwing pipes i bought for the terminal and bits of spare plasticard and strip and ended up building a discharge rig! Still got to add 8 flexible pipes to the ends of the pipes and the rigging that can hold them when not in use, very pleased with the end result though!! I know im a long way off getting the scenery done but i was in the mood for building something tonight rather than wiring, soldering or playing trains!! 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 great work there Jim, fills the corner nicely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Looking great David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 6, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2014 Been having a think about the track layout for a while and i have been a bit dissapointed since laying it about the lack of "playability" around the station area So to rectify it ive decided to add a pair of crossovers on the aproach to the station at botg ends that will allow me to use the single platform bi-directionally so i can do run rounds, turn backs etc as well as being able to enter and exit the shed from both directions instead of having to cross over in the tunnel via the hidden points The complicated part of the set up is 2 sets of points are going to have to be located on the removable section on a curve on top of the bridge! The other end will have to fit between a level section and where the line begins to drop! The bridge end will have a pair of curved points, in the picture below gives you an idea of how it will be set up And at the other end, the upside down points are because i didnt have a spare pair of left hand points while i was planning it, to save buying a set of curved points the inner points will use the diverging route as the main line and the main route as the crossover Because the points are an addition i will most likely have to leave them manual rather than motorising them, thats something i'll look at once i get round to actually laying them 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Like the oil depot ,know what you mean by looking again at the track layout been looking at my layout and decided to change the exit from my station so as to provide some more fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2014 Because the points are an addition i will most likely have to leave them manual rather than motorising them, thats something i'll look at once i get round to actually laying them Is that because you won't be able to fit point motors from underneath? There is a way of dropping them in from the top and disguising them, if you use Peco PL10's, clipped directly to the point. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 6, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2014 Is that because you won't be able to fit point motors from underneath? its mainly because im too lazy to do it! the only one i'll struggle with is one on the bridge above the poly risers but the rest i can get to just about, i normally use seep motors but i may try the peco option, the only thing is they are quite deep and the mainline runs below so i may not have the clearance if not i can use rod in tube 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2014 its mainly because im too lazy to do it! the only one i'll struggle with is one on the bridge above the poly risers but the rest i can get to just about, i normally use seep motors but i may try the peco option, the only thing is they are quite deep and the mainline runs below so i may not have the clearance if not i can use rod in tube You'll make some extra clearance because the motor is partially contained within the depth of the baseboard. Here's my take on clipping a motor direct to the point and also covering it up. You don't need the motor mounted switch, you can always use a separate micro switch directly operated from the tie-bar. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 6, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2014 I'll have a look at doing that mick, the fun bit then will be the extra wires to the removable section! Ive made provision for the existing point on the removable section but will have to add more for the 2 extra points, i do have 3 wires spare on the existing loom but i dont think the accessory decoder will throw 2 peco motors at once Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2014 I'll have a look at doing that mick, the fun bit then will be the extra wires to the removable section! Ive made provision for the existing point on the removable section but will have to add more for the 2 extra points, i do have 3 wires spare on the existing loom but i dont think the accessory decoder will throw 2 peco motors at once Hi Jim, Worth an experiment with two motors. I've read that you can and can't throw two motors from an accessory decoder. I would think that if they were reasonably free to move, it would work OK. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 7, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2014 warmington had a pair if co-acting point motors that worked fine, those were seep running through ztc accessory decoders with minimal wire these would be peco running off a Bachmann decoder, it does say you can set the switch for peco motors to give it a stronger 'kick' but i doubt it would manage 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2014 My minimal experiments with the Bachmann/ESU Switchpilot revealed that the best results to power solenoid motors is to have a seperate supply to the decoder, rather than relying on the DCC bus to power it. I've not tried them, but there is a low current version of the PL-10, I think more compatible for use with DCC systems, PL-10W Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I use two Switch Pilots on Peters Street with Seep Solenoid point motors and you need a separate AC supply to the switch pilot with the control signals coming from the track buss, it's not possible to do multiple switching at the same time for a route but switching single points one after the other works well. Pete 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 7, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2014 Ive got a separate maplin AC supply to the accessory decoders so i may give it a try, i did have a go at it on the co-acting points in the hidden section but for whatever reason the points didnt throw properly, the supply is a fair way from the decoder though but i am using mains spec 2 core cable so i wouldnt think there is too much of a voltage drop to cause problems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Looks really good so far! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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