WD0-6-0 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) If you want a "correct" model the J38 is only the same as a J39 minus splashers if you choose one of those J38s reboilered with J39 boiler. The original J38 boiler was 6" longer in the barrel, with smokebox 6" shorter and chimney further forward.Could you recommend a book that would pride me with this information? I couldn't find it online. Also does your resin range include a suitable smaller group standard tender, something along the lines of the size and shape of the K4 tender?Thanks Edited June 11, 2015 by WD0-6-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 So to turn it into a j38 all you need to do is cut off the splashers? Pity the wheels are metal otherwise I could have cut the top of the wheels off for a simple conversion. The J38 Wheels are smaller in diameter (The book says the sizes, but it is not here with me!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 j38 wheels were 4ft 8 inches 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 This will get you started: http://www.lner.info/locos/J/j38.shtml Then proceed to the J39 page. Then there's the nice summary outline 'Gresley locos' by Brian Haresnape, the very thorough Yeadon series for any LNER class of interest, and the Isinglass drawing series. That'll keep you busy for a year or two... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebbles Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The footplate of the J39 and J38 are not the same. In the case of the J38 the quadrant at the front of the footplate commences at about 1ft 2inches (just under 5mm) further back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Compared with this ugly brute the Southern Q1 looks very handsome.! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Compared with a Q1 i look handsome 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Compared with a Q1 i look handsome ...because you're worth it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yes, reminds me of a old Hornby tin plate O gauge clockwork loco. Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yes, reminds me of a old Hornby tin plate O gauge clockwork loco. Keith. That was what I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Here's my J39 repainted, renumbered and weathered 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) The basic work is done, the running plate is filled and basic brush painting to check it looks right (and I can't afford an airbrush) Edit and two more Edited June 11, 2015 by WD0-6-0 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Also a big point is the smoke box lamp iron, the big round sent its sat in had to be filled. The filled area is circled in green, I wish I had taken a before shot too but you can see it In other photos and most recently on Darrels beautifully weathered J39 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperordalek Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) That's because they all look alike! [Ducks and runs for cover. Only said because it's Prince Philip's birthday today] Maybe HRH has gone for a meal with Dave Whelan ( a takeaway?!!) Edited June 11, 2015 by emperordalek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperordalek Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I know its off topic but in reply to the person who mentioned Atlas Editions i have ordered a specific model I wanted in there great british buses collection they do a Leyland lynx in midland red west livery and because they were operated in Redditch I rang them and asked if I could order just that one? and because I already had the £2 model at the start so phoned up to pay my £2 and while I was on I asked if they had the one I wanted and was told it wont be out for another 3 month but if I want one I can order one! so I paid for it there and then. and the lady on the phone asked if I wanted to order any of the other upcoming models if not ill cancel your subscription its up to you? so I said no I just want the one please so she cancelled my subscription. Low and behold the bus I wanted came just as she said a few months later and iv not heard of them since I would give Atlas Editions a very wide berth I'm afraid. Had problems cancelling a "subscription" I had allegedly taken out. Plus the fact you get junk-mail for the next 2-3 years!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Here's my J39 repainted, renumbered and weatherednicely done , looks like its earned its keep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The footplate of the J39 and J38 are not the same. In the case of the J38 the quadrant at the front of the footplate commences at about 1ft 2inches (just under 5mm) further back. I'd never noticed that, but it's clearly true on comparing photographs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The footplate of the J39 and J38 are not the same. In the case of the J38 the quadrant at the front of the footplate commences at about 1ft 2inches (just under 5mm) further back. That's a compromise I can put up with for this one, certainly worth knowing for future builds that'll put this one to shame though. Has anyone here had any experience of building the SEF J38 3500 tender? I want to build that and use the current tender as it is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted June 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2015 I would give Atlas Editions a very wide berth I'm afraid. Had problems cancelling a "subscription" I had allegedly taken out. Plus the fact you get junk-mail for the next 2-3 years!! OT, and not disputing your experience but just for balance, I ordered their Blackpool tram "starter" model a few years back, cancelled the subscription as soon as it arrived, and have had no problems. I forget if I've had more mail from them but if so it's not much - most of the leaflets I've had fell out of magazines. Maybe I ticked something saying I didn't want to hear more. To get the first model you do have to agree to subscribe, but they don't require a credit card number so they can't take money off you without your permission. As with most things, some people have reported bad experiences, some have cancelled and never heard from them again, and it's impossible to know what the proportions of the two are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) ....any further developments with the western? My brassmasters etch kit arrived today...excellent service...I am currently awaiting the result of your drastic surgery as to where I deploy this enhancement. I have already offered one of the etched cabs to my initial reworked western...and yes well worth the extra outlay. I suspect however your efforts really will improve this model, hence my hesitation...Not totally quiet on the Western Front. We now have Three Degrees Of Separation. Don't forget to reduce the width of the front windscreen ledge by at least half, and shave off all the moulded details.... Edited June 12, 2015 by Horsetan 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Suspect you would have an easier project using the hoped for GBL A1/A2 body on the running gear! And you would still have the Trix body to use, with guidance from the GBL body prototype, if that first attempt didn't work out to your satisfaction. Re the forthcoming GBL A1/A2. I've got a couple of Hornby Railroad Tornados (bought when they were £42 in one or other of the sales that were going on...) with the intention of backdating them to BR locos. (Shock, horror, well a bit of work on the tender top etc. should do the trick). They don't have visible rivet detail therefore would be best for Darlington locos that had flush rivets. Maybe the GBL loco will be derived from a model with snap headed rivet detail, thus being suitable for a Doncaster built engine. Perhaps. Did Bachmann do one of these? At the least could be a good source of bits for other LNER pacifics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Bill did as you describe backdated tender ...then sold back to my local model shop for something more topical for my Midlands layout...double headed class 25s....kept my Bachmann A1 though in honour of the class member 60114 WP Allen which found itself as far south,as Worcester, in 64 before being reunited to its nor eastern roots..not before Worcester shed men playing on her up and down the yard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Bill did as you describe backdated tender ...then sold back to my local model shop for something more topical for my Midlands layout...double headed class 25s....kept my Bachmann A1 though in honour of the class member 60114 WP Allen which found itself as far south,as Worcester, in 64 before being reunited to its nor eastern roots..not before Worcester shed men playing on her up and down the yard I'm not the only one then, 46256.... I'm thinking that the tender (top) is the main difference. Did wonder about using GBL tender bodies depending on what version they do, but I think that modifying the Hornby tender will be enough. (Plus a later rimmed chimney since the Tornados I bought were in the original condition). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Another slightly bizarre thing about the GBL shell is that the second cab (I never quite know which is the "A" end and which is the "B") doesn't have the bulkhead that the other one has, so some sort of reinforcement may be needed. Anyhow, we finally have the chance to see how the thing looks on the Heljan chassis, with the central section as central as we can make it. The gap-filling that needs doing is obvious..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2015 I found a J39 at the 'other' Asda here in Basildon. No apparent faults so I decided to spend the £8.99. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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