RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2013 Did you happen to see what the bogies were fixed to the coach with? The usual clip ins or screw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 From the photo's, they look like they would stand up against the Bachmann Mk1. Ah but will they couple up..................? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Perhaps it's unfair to criticise these pre-production examples, but I will anyway.... Just a couple of points: the bottom lining band should be above the door stops rather than in line with them. also the bodyside running number seems too high , to my eyes at least. Pity about those roof ribs....Hornby should've followed the Hachette model rather than the Bachmann one in that respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted October 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2013 To me they look good for the price point but those roof ribs. Why????? (Unless it's so people can mix and match Railroad with Bachmanns in rakes). Anyway, no-one's mentioned the mix of BR Mk1 and Commonwealth bogies so I'll be the first. Presumably they'll ring the changes with various numbers and bogies as batches are issued? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Not saying it happened, but if Hornby gave the Chinese factory a Bachmann coach to copy then it would end up with roof ribs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 As with so much Hornby's 2013 range moulded on pipe runs and hand rails spoil the affect for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 As with so much Hornby's 2013 range moulded on pipe runs and hand rails spoil the affect for me. They'll be a far easier blend with the herds of Hachette coaches out there in the wild.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 They'll be a far easier blend with the herds of Hachette coaches out there in the wild.... The couple of Hachette's I obtained have had new under frames and pipe runs replaced with wire . Personally I have plenty of Mk1's, but it would be nice to see BSO's, FO's and other catering vehicles appearing. Corrected for spelling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I need to get my copy of Parkin out later - for work reasons, tantalisingly! While it's on the kitchen table, I'll try and work out what key types we're still short of. I agree the two you mention are pretty crucial, the BSO especially as a pseudo-Scottish modeller. pseudo here applying to Scottish as in ScR, not my birth cert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted October 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2013 Shame the numbers are prefixed with E. I wonder how difficult it will be to remove that when replacing it with W. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I need to get my copy of Parkin out later - for work reasons, tantalisingly! While it's on the kitchen table, I'll try and work out what key types we're still short of. I agree the two you mention are pretty crucial, the BSO especially as a pseudo-Scottish modeller. There are three Mark I passenger types of which more than 100 examples were built where there has been no recent 00 model. They are: RB - modelled very well for its day by Mainline over 30 years ago - long time span, lots of liveries, all regions FO (Diag 73) - already modelled in N by Farish, was also done some years ago by Replica in 00 but not to current standard - long time span (60 years and still going if you count charter sets) - lots of liveries, all regions BSO - no RTR model has ever been made in 00 or N so far as I am aware - mostly Eastern but other regions had them too - the WR had at least one in chocolate and cream. None on the SR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted October 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2013 Shame the numbers are prefixed with E. I wonder how difficult it will be to remove that when replacing it with W. Only a concern if your coach was reallocated to the WR from the ER. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 As with so much Hornby's 2013 range moulded on pipe runs and hand rails spoil the affect for me. Yes, but to be fair this is a Railroad model, and packaged and priced some way below superdetail models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Yes, but to be fair this is a Railroad model, and packaged and priced some way below superdetail models Indeed. They look pretty good to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilwell Park Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 To me they look good for the price point but those roof ribs. Why????? (Unless it's so people can mix and match Railroad with Bachmanns in rakes). Anyway, no-one's mentioned the mix of BR Mk1 and Commonwealth bogies so I'll be the first. Presumably they'll ring the changes with various numbers and bogies as batches are issued? Interesting in that Triang in 1960 managed to put very good roof ribs on their new Mark 1 coaches, such is progress. Roger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Indeed. They look pretty good to me.Agreed! The Commonwealth bogie looks even better than the Blue box one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted October 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2013 Interesting in that Triang in 1960 managed to put very good roof ribs on their new Mark 1 coaches, such is progress. Roger. One of the regulars who gets mentioned on the ebay madness thread has these to illustrate the point http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIANG-Hornby-BR-MAROON-MK1-COMPOSITE-BRAKE-COACH-x-2-NICE-my/360771039881?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18220%26meid%3D2286531427609910118%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D8339%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D171158470982%26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
multiprinter Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 One of the regulars who gets mentioned on the ebay madness thread has these to illustrate the point http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIANG-Hornby-BR-MAROON-MK1-COMPOSITE-BRAKE-COACH-x-2-NICE-my/360771039881?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18220%26meid%3D2286531427609910118%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D8339%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D171158470982%26 Pity about the price - I used to buy them at around 50p each, but that was 35 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Image from the DoG train pack... Just wanted to post the image here to show that the coaches have metal wheels on them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 1, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2013 Image from the DoG train pack... Just wanted to post the image here to show that the coaches have metal wheels on them The pre-prod pics posted by Andy on 26 October show what appear to be plastic wheels and most Hornby promo and catalogue pictures use computer generated images - so i reckon the best way to find out what sort of wheels these coaches will have is to wait and see what is on them when the production versions arrive (but is metal cheaper than plastic nowadays I wonder?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 The pre-prod pics posted by Andy on 26 October show what appear to be plastic wheels and most Hornby promo and catalogue pictures use computer generated images - so i reckon the best way to find out what sort of wheels these coaches will have is to wait and see what is on them when the production versions arrive (but is metal cheaper than plastic nowadays I wonder?) It has been stated in the past that the early pre-production models had plastic wheels. The image I posted is what Hornby have claimed to be THE LATEST pre-production samples. If I'm not mistaken what Andy had are part of the previous EP samples. So yes it is best to wait and see what it gets but I'm sure about metal wheels. Though the coaches are from the railroad range it's not difficult to conclude that they are higher spec compared to the rest of the railroad models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Showing on the latest trade newsletter as all variants being released during November. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Rails have sent out emails advertising a Hornby Railroad range Mk.I in choc & cream at discount. Would this be and earlier railroad product (?), 'cos if it is things are going to by mighty confusing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Rails have sent out emails advertising a Hornby Railroad range Mk.I in choc & cream at discount. Would this be and earlier railroad product (?), 'cos if it is things are going to by mighty confusing! The MK1s were never within the Railroad range, so it should probably be the new one, and according to their website the choc & cream CSK is in stock (the rest are working from catalogue images and listed as "forthcoming"). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 The MK1s were never within the Railroad range, so it should probably be the new one It is indeed the new one. It's pretty obvious when you look at it. However, after a little speculation I did seem to come up with this.... (to me it seems to be the actual case) - All the new Mk1s (single pieces) in the railroad range have plastic wheels - All Mk1s in the "HERITAGE RAIL EXPRESS" train pack (sold in the main range) come with metal wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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