RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2017 Looks like that Wonderloaf has a hell of an oil or water leak! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) Looks like that Wonderloaf has a hell of an oil or water leak! All as normal then. Edited April 22, 2017 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted April 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2017 Looks like that Wonderloaf has a hell of an oil or water leak! No, just the fireman being too slow pulling the bag out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted April 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2017 No as normal then. I never saw one move - I did see the last one at Brizzle in 76 hiding around the back with some green 03's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2017 They were know for leaking oil, weren't they, that being one of the reasons they were prone to fire damage? Looks like that Wonderloaf has a hell of an oil or water leak! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted May 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 7, 2017 Cardiff Canton's new D1613 is engaged in crew training hauling 3V28, a short van train through Barrs Court, Hereford. by Anthony Haynes, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Cardiff Canton's new D1613 is engaged in crew training hauling 3V28, a short van train through Barrs Court, Hereford. by Anthony Haynes, on Flickr Pair of ex Izal palvans over the back. Paul 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) Pair of ex Izal palvans over the back. Paul 3 at least Paul, along with the coke hoppers, horse box and a full variety of box vans and minerals, aah, those were the days. Edit. Thinking further, wouldn't these still be in Izal service at this date? Mike. Edited May 15, 2017 by Enterprisingwestern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2017 Pair of ex Izal palvans over the back. Paul Hi Paul The LMS van in the train still has its roof vents and no diagonal strapping on the body sides, which most had received by the date of the photo. I was wondering could it be a passenger rated van, like a meat van? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2017 Am assuming this is a parcels working - apologies if it isn't Least Successful Modernisation Plan Diesel design? by Gricer1946, on Flickr OT, but some very interesting looking coaches in the background. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Hi Paul The LMS van in the train still has its roof vents and no diagonal strapping on the body sides, which most had received by the date of the photo. I was wondering could it be a passenger rated van, like a meat van? Were the earlier vans retro-fitted with diagonal strapping, or was it simply that those vehicles with it of a later vintage? Looking at Paul's site, there is an example of a Diagram 1812 or 1830, built in 1931, in internal use at Wakefield in 1981, lacking straps and still fitted with roof vents. Another shot, taken in 1980 at Horwich, has a D1812 wagon without straps. The later, D1891, wagons seem to have been built with diagonal strapping, as well as an angle upright midway along each side panel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2017 OT, but some very interesting looking coaches in the background. Camping Coaches, the basis for the livery on the LMS 57' Composite that Bachmann produced for Frizinghall Models some time ago. LMS P1 or LNWR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Looking at Paul's site, there is an example of a Diagram 1812 or 1830, built in 1931 Could be. It could also be a diagram 1814 looking at the flatter roof profile along with the Horizontal planking. I guess we'll never know. That yard looks far too tidy for 1964. I can only see one piece of track side rubbish. The prefabs on Kingsway look tasty and what are were those three pylons in the Galvanising works used for? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Could be. It could also be a diagram 1814 looking at the flatter roof profile along with the Horizontal planking. I guess we'll never know. That yard looks far too tidy for 1964. I can only see one piece of track side rubbish. The prefabs on Kingsway look tasty and what are were those three pylons in the Galvanising works used for? P The 'galvanising works' (Painters) used to prefabricated pylons- the structures visible were used as part of the test erection and stress-testing before finished pylons were dismantled for despatch to site. The company apparently did a lot of work for the Air Ministry prior to WW2, manufacturing things like prefabricated hangers. Their address is still given as Hereford, though the test rigs have gone, presumably replaced by computer modelling and Finite Element Analysis. The nearby Hereford United football ground was one of the very first to be furnished with floodlighting towers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2017 The nearby Hereford United football ground was one of the very first to be furnished with floodlighting towers. Bramall Lane was the first floodlit stadium, powered by batteries and generators, but I don't know if there were towers. More research needed. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) An interesting comment in the caption about the Tartan Arrow service. https://flic.kr/p/URsrHB P Edited May 16, 2017 by Porcy Mane 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) This is exactly what happened on the 02.15 Manchester/Leeds newspapers. The train would be routed into the normally westbound platform and whilst the driver nipped to make brew the rear 2 vehicles were detached and later shunted by an outstationed Healey Mills jocko. I'm not aware of how the empty vans returned. At Dewsbury the same train propelled back off the viaduct through a groundframe worked crossing to use the west bound platform for unloading. Using the westbound platforms was done for the ease of access, direct to waiting WH Smith vans I worked this train just before the demise of the traffic. Usual power by this time was a class 31 with eth and 6 vans about 4 of which were GUVs with tables and lighting. The train carried newspaper staff doing bundling, loco returned light to Victoria. Another regular parcels/postal working we worked was a York/Cardiff, from my time(late '86) the routing changed slightly, intially the train detached a van at Staylebridge and then continued to Crewe via Denton and Stockport. The Victoria bank engine was diagrammed to bring the single van down to Vic, this changded and a Victoria driver travelled out pass to York to work it as far as Stockport. This changed to going via Guide Bridge direct to Piccadilly, where an electric was backed up. For modellers train usully loaded 9 including a TPO(2?) eth 47 for power except on one occasssion where it rolled into York with a coal sector 37. Train came from Heaton. During the 1960s in Scotland, BR created the Glasgow Parcels Depot in Salkeld Street, according to the carriage working books of the day, any train heading towards Glasgow Buchanan Street or Queen Street that had any parcels vans in the consist had them removed at Stirling or Perth, these were then combined to form a parcels train that would run via Coatbridge and Rutherglen to Shields Junction for reversal into the depot, The 1964 Carriage working book is fascinating and there are BGs being transferred from one service to another at almost every major station. The last real marshalling of any mail working was the West Coast Postal at Carstairs, where four vans were added from Aberdeen and a single BG added from Edinburgh, often hauled by a class 87, how is this for an over powered parcels service!! Jim Edited May 16, 2017 by luckymucklebackit 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2017 An interesting comment in the caption about the Tartan Arrow service. https://flic.kr/p/URsrHB P Hi Porcy Lockstock Hall is a bit off route for the Arrow. I am not sure when the train finished, or if the van portion finished before the container train, was the van still in Tartan Arrow service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Lockstock Hall is a bit off route for the Arrow. I am not sure when the train finished, or if the van portion finished before the container train, was the van still in Tartan Arrow service? That's why I found the comment interesting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) A couple of nice ones from John Turner's collection today. Mixture of DPUs, power cars, tail traffic and mixed liveries. https://flic.kr/p/UJ4GzL https://flic.kr/p/UURadQ Edited May 20, 2017 by TheSignalEngineer 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 c.1969 - Andover, Hampshire. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/34528413286/in/dateposted/ John Turner site. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 c.1969 - Andover, Hampshire. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/34528413286/in/dateposted/ That's an interesting pic. Tracked military vehicles on warflats behind/right and a blue class 33 behind/left. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted May 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2017 c.1969 - Andover, Hampshire. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/34528413286/in/dateposted/ John Turner site. Some shiny new armoured personnel carriers on the train behind too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 20, 2017 c.1969 - Andover, Hampshire. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/34528413286/in/dateposted/ John Turner site. Both Stanier and Thompson six wheelers. And look at those brand new 432s on the Warflats. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bingley hall Posted June 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) A bit soft and a bit grainy, but I'm sure you get the gist........six of the best (Siphons) passing Didcot in May 1977 Edited June 29, 2017 by bingley hall 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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