jonhall Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Large load at St Pancras station, about 1939 Description: A boiler on a Great Western Railway 'Crocodile' wagon at St Pancras station, about 1939. The Crocodile wagon was capable of transporting loads weighing up to 65 tons. The GWR used codes, many of them animal names, to identify its many different types of freight vehicle. Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page. http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=euston&item=285 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Large load at St Pancras station, about 1939 Description: Boilers on Great Western Railway 'Crocodile' wagons at St Pancras station, about 1939. The Crocodile wagon was capable of transporting loads weighing up to 65 tons. The GWR used codes, many of them animal names, to identify its many different types of freight vehicle. Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page.http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=euston&item=286 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Stirling boiler on a railway wagon, 1905 Description: A Stirling boiler, part of a ship's engine, on a London & North Western Railway wagon, 1905. This boiler, manufactured in Ohio by the Stirling boiler company, arrived in Britain by ship. The only practical way to transport it overland was by rail. Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page. http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=euston&item=582 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Unloading a condenser from a railway wagon, about 1939 Description: A railway steam crane unloading a condenser at the London, Midland & Scottish Railway's Stonebridge Park power house, London, about 1939. The coal-fired power station was built in 1914 by the London & North Western Railway to power trains on its newly electrified lines from Euston and Broad Street to Watford Junction and Croxley Green. Condensers in the power station converted the steam generated to drive the turbines back into water. Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page.http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=euston&item=654 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjnewitt Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 What a lovely set of photos! The wagons in post 4 look to be GWR Pollens, possibly pollen Bs. You can just about make out the Dean/Churchward brake levers on the second wagon back. The wagon in post 7 looks to be an (ex)LMS type somewhere on the (G)WR. There's a photo of a very similar 24 wheel LMS trolley in one of J.H.Russel's wagon books. The bogies are identical with those distinctive square dampers on the springs. The cradle was slightly different at the ends. A transformer would be about right. It looks as if the wagon has TRANSFORMER K or something very similar written on it. What a sight some of these trains must have been. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 That ingot mould's not on a railway dray (pity the poor horses..), but on a Crocodile, with inside-framed bogies. I'd quibble about the dating as well; the script looks rather modern. One of the 'traction engines' is actually a stationary engine, used to power threshing machines and similar. I'd concur with the first shot being of Parsons (later NEI) in Heaton; the wagons with the three-axle bogies carrying the relieving beams aren't ex-Warwells or Flatrols, though, but Flat EQs to Diagram 2/071 or 2/075. The Flatrol (re-designated from Warwell) ELL/WLL had the headstock slightly higher than the floor, so looked like a bogie Lowmac- they had plain, rather than roller bearings. BSC Landore used them for ingot mould deliveries. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 If you saw this on a model railway layout, you just wouldn't believe it. Beyer Garratt locomotives for export, about 1950 Description: A Beyer Garratt locomotive being transported to a port ready for export, on a freight train about 1950. The engine was built in Manchester by Beyer, Peacock & Co. Garratt locomotives were articulated, so that they could carry large supplies of coal and water, and negotiate tight curves, despite their size. Most of them were built for export, particularly to Africa and Australia. This locomotive is being transported in pieces, ready for assembly at its final destination. Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page.http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=liverpoolst&item=37 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Loading the MV Cambridge Ferry, 1966 Description: An ammonia converter being loaded onto the MV Cambridge Ferry en route to Germany. 23 July 1966. This vessel was one of four British Railways freight ferries used on the route between Harwich and Zeebrugge. Rail vehicles could be shunted straight onto tracks laid on the cargo deck. She made her maiden voyage in 1964. Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page.http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=liverpoolst&item=493 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Men using hand crane to off load 12 ton girders Description: Men using hand crane to off load 12 ton girders for a new power station at Rye House, 23 June 1949. http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=liverpoolst&item=546 http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=liverpoolst&item=547 Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Oil distilling tower 68' long, with Go To It painted on side. Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=liverpoolst&item=576 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Transformer being unloaded, 1959 Description: A Parsons electrical transformer being transferred from a railway wagon to a Pickfords lorry at Southminster, Essex, en route to Bradwell nuclear power station, 3 March 1959. Although railways lost business to road hauliers in the 1950s, heavy goods like this transformer were still commonly transported by rail. The Bradwell reactor, which opened in 1962, was closed forty years later. http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=liverpoolst&item=845 http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=liverpoolst&item=846 Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Great pictures. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debs. Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Large load at Derby, 1908 http://www.nrm.org.u...=derby&item=270 http://www.nrm.org.u...=derby&item=271 They appear to be Bascule-bridge quadrants; the 'dog`s tooth' square receiver recess` being visible around the curved rim in picture 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grovenor Posted December 22, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2012 The Garratt locomotive is one of the Rhodesia Railways 15th class made in the Beyer Peacock Gorton works Daniel Adamson, of the "Go to it" had a works alongside the Woodhead route at Newton, just a few miles from Beyer Peacock, but I'm not sure that's the one pictured. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 22, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Unloading a condenser from a railway wagon, about 1939 Description: A railway steam crane unloading a condenser at the London, Midland & Scottish Railway's Stonebridge Park power house, London, about 1939. The coal-fired power station was built in 1914 by the London & North Western Railway to power trains on its newly electrified lines from Euston and Broad Street to Watford Junction and Croxley Green. Condensers in the power station converted the steam generated to drive the turbines back into water. Use non-commercially: The photo above is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA) licence. In a nutshell, that means it's free for any non-commercial use as long as you credit "© National Railway Museum and SSPL" and add a link back to this page.http://www.nrm.org.u...euston&item=654 This is actually being unloaded from a lorry! Not just any lorry but one of two (or maybe three?) special rigid 8 wheel AEC's operated by Pickfords. They can be identified by the use of Trolleybus rear axles. Edited December 22, 2012 by PhilJ W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) . A transformer would be about right. It looks as if the wagon has TRANSFORMER K or something very similar written on it. Think this wagon ended up carrying spent nuclear rods between HM dockyards and Windscale (or whatever it was called that week). Can feel a scratchbuild coming on - hmm, now where to get 6-wheel bogies ??? Edited December 22, 2012 by Southernman46 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The wagon in post 7 (also seen in post 36) is surely a BR-buit diag. 2/470 TRANSFORMER MC. Paul Bartlett had loads of photos of one of these beasts on his old website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjnewitt Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Think this wagon ended up carrying spent nuclear rods between HM dockyards and Windscale (or whatever it was called that week). Can feel a scratchbuild coming on - hmm, now where to get 6-wheel bogies ??? The GWR had some very similar wagons, 63 ton 24 wheel Crocodile Ls, which I've had similar thoughts about. Then I look at the number of rivets and turn the page! The wagon in post 7 (also seen in post 36) is surely a BR-buit diag. 2/470 TRANSFORMER MC. Paul Bartlett had loads of photos of one of these beasts on his old website. It does say TRANSFORMER MC on the photo in post 36 and does look as if it could well say that in the picture in post 7. It is very, very similar to the LMS wagon that I mentioned in a previous post, but then given the M in the code you'd expect it to be based on an LMS design. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Think this wagon ended up carrying spent nuclear rods between HM dockyards and Windscale (or whatever it was called that week). Can feel a scratchbuild coming on - hmm, now where to get 6-wheel bogies ??? Sorry - I was talking bo**ocks (again) - the nuclear wagon was MODA 95780 (Head Wrightson in 1963) - not these. Still fancy buiding it though - anyone got any photos they're willing to share please cos there's b*gger all on t'internet............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Sorry - I was talking bo**ocks (again) - the nuclear wagon was MODA 95780 (Head Wrightson in 1963) - not these. Still fancy buiding it though - anyone got any photos they're willing to share please cos there's b*gger all on t'internet............ Morning SM46, was it this one from the archive?: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=24074 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 The diagram is available from the Barrowmore books, and Paul's photos are here http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtransformer/h3a287fcc#h3a287fcc the obvious source of 6 wheel bogies is the Triang Trestrol, although I seem to have given all of my leftover bits (from stretching the Trestrol) away. Away you go. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 I've been browsing the BR London Midland magazines looking fir references to train ferry traffic, but I stumbled on this, which I thought worth sharing in the April 1961 issue. Jon 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I've been browsing the BR London Midland magazines looking fir references to train ferry traffic, but I stumbled on this, which I thought worth sharing in the April 1961 issue. Jon transformerMC-LMapril61.jpg D8036 on the front. You will see the transformer was made to fit that bridge at Llanrwst. Another one went , another day and was filmed for British Transport Films (Measured for Transport) Does anybody know what date ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Morning SM46, was it this one from the archive?: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=24074 Hi EWD, Excellent - just the job (just noticed the B'day PM btw) T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The diagram is available from the Barrowmore books, and Paul's photos are here http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brtransformer/h3a287fcc#h3a287fcc the obvious source of 6 wheel bogies is the Triang Trestrol, although I seem to have given all of my leftover bits (from stretching the Trestrol) away. Away you go. Jon Many thanks Jon - have the diagram, going to s/build the bogies. Can anybody direct me to / identify the poster (rolandgallery) of this link in the old RMweb also (sorry starting to feel a bit needy, keep asking for stuff) as the link etc is long defunct................. Re: Mystery monster wagon by Pete-Harvey » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:20 pm It has already been modelled http://rolandgallery.fotopic.net/c952769.html Pete What is truth, What is Reality, Why is the Present Now the Past ??? My Work Bench viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5956 My Layout viewtopic.php?t=6459 If you have not been following this thread you will find it of more use if read from the start. http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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