Wright writes.....

[Tony Wright]

16 minutes ago, Bernard Lamb said:

Good morning Tony,

Pedant mode, sorry.

Fillies can run in The Derby, but usually the owners tend to run them in The Oaks as the weight allowance in The Derby is not very favourable. 

 

Madge Elliot, who died last May,RIP, see the obituaries thread, is an example of the name Madge and a class 66 now carries her name. She has also 'driven' an A4.

 

Re the change of meaning and the change of use of words. Dad came back from the far east in 1945 on The Empire Pride. I wonder what would be the situation if it had changed places with The Empire Windrush.

Bernard

Thanks Bernard,

 

I'd assumed (never assume) that because no filly ever appears to have won The Derby, that it was for three year old colts only. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

[t-b-g]

13 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

And our congratulations to you, Tony.

 

Grandson or granddaughter?

 

Best regards,

 

Tony. 

 

I am not sure if, in this modern world, we are allowed to decide on a gender for anybody anymore. It is up to them to choose what they are. But the lack of dangly bits and the name Charlotte convinces me it is a granddaughter. I have had a discussion with mum about getting her a soldering iron with a pink handle for Christmas but it didn't go well.

 

Cheers,

 

Tony

[bbishop]

Are there "lasses" in the Scott class names?

[Tony Wright]

19 minutes ago, APOLLO said:

History & Brits !! - Anyone renamed there 70036 Boadicea to Boudicca ? - No, thought not.

 

In 1963 I passed my 11+ exam and thus later attended Wigan Grammar School. My parents bought me a passing present, a Tri-ang TT Britannia, 70036 Boadicea which I still have.

 

After the second year we picked our O level subjects, maths and english being compulsory. I chose the three sciences, history and geography having dropped the dreaded Latin like a red hot stone !! First day we as a class voted on the type of History we were to learn, "King & Queen" type or Social, Political and economic history of the industrial revolution / Victorian era. We gladly chose the latter, and with our popular and knowledgeable teacher, "Dicky" Dykes it was a most enjoyable subject. I'll sum it up as follows. We Brits gave so much to the world, but we also took so much. Such is life.

 

Brit15

 

 

 

Good morning,

 

I have a BOADICEA............

 

 

 

A detailed (by me) and weathered (by Tom Wright) Hornby OO example (I really must changed the chimney).

 

Along with 70036 and 70003, there are two other Brits on Bytham...........

 

 

 

70041, built by Mick Peabody from a DJH kit, painted by me and then weathered by Mick.

 

And.............

 

 

 

 

70010, another DJH kit, started by Mick Peabody, completed by me and painted/weathered by Geoff Haynes. 

 

I seem to recall that in the last year of its life, this loco had its name in Welsh, but only painted on the deflectors. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

 

 

[Tony Wright]

2 minutes ago, bbishop said:

Are there "lasses" in the Scott class names?

Good morning Bill,

 

At least FLORA MACIVOR, EDIE OCHILTREE, LUCY ASHTON, ELLEN DOUGLASS and THE LADY OF THE LAKE in the D11/2s. Plus (at least) MEG DODS in the D30s. ELLANGOWAN and NORNA might be females, too. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[john new]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Good morning Robert,

 

You're right about MELD being the only filly among the Deltic racehorse names. It could well be that The Derby has always been considered the most important of the Classics (which is for colts only); more important than The Oaks (which is for fillies only)? 

 

Actually, MELD was the most successful of all the Deltic thoroughbreds, winning three of the Classics (One Thousand Guineas, Oaks and St. Ledger) in 1955, whereas ALYCIDON could only come second in the 1948 St. Ledger. The best her other male counterparts could achieve was two Classics. 

 

The A3s are very male-orientated, with only PRETTY POLLY and SCEPTRE being celebrated as winning The Oaks; The Derby being by far the most-represented. The A2/3s do rather better, with STEADY AIM, SUN STREAM, HYCILLA and HONEYWAY carrying filly names. As for the A1s and A2s names after racehorses - all male, it would seem, though far fewer were named after Classic winners.

 

Doesn't it all seem delightfully absurd? Absurd, but part of my 'real' education as a trainspotter. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

I have a recollection the Derby is open gender* but dominated for the last 100 odd years by colts. The last of four fillies to win it being in the early 1900s. 
 

* from the most recent Felix Francis novel I have just finished. Something I’m sure he would have fact checked.

[gr.king]

11 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Graeme, have you sat in a history class in a school these days? I think you will find it is a myth that kids are told about the blunders only. 

 

3 hours ago, richard i said:

True, and I hope I would know. I hang around in history classrooms 200 days of the year.

richard 

Quite possibly so, but the mis-education does not only occur in the classroom, thanks to the many means by which those who want to destroy traditional values, traditional standards, traditional rules, and pride in Britain's history, can now now circulate their poison and apply pressure to those who reject it.

[MarkC]

Congratulations to you and Mo, Tony, and to all involved, on the safe arrival of your twin granddaughters. Enjoy!

 

Mark

[Tony Wright]

30 minutes ago, john new said:

I have a recollection the Derby is open gender* but dominated for the last 100 odd years by colts. The last of four fillies to win it being in the early 1900s. 
 

* from the most recent Felix Francis novel I have just finished. Something I’m sure he would have fact checked.

Thanks John,

 

My 'research' didn't go back that far.

 

One learns something every day!

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[Captain Kernow]

Congratulations on the new additions to your family, Tony & Mo!

 

[Tony Wright]

16 minutes ago, gr.king said:

 

Quite possibly so, but the mis-education does not only occur in the classroom, thanks to the many means by which those who want to destroy traditional values, traditional standards, traditional rules, and pride in Britain's history, can now now circulate their poison and apply pressure to those who reject it.

Good morning Graeme,

 

What puzzles me is that if so many appear to hate this country and all that it stands for (and has stood for for generations), why do they stay? And, why do so many want to come?

 

Enough now; I've no wish to turn Wright writes into politics - It's about model-making, and I'm just about to solder on the A1s' boiler fittings, having completed both tenders. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[Compound2632]

1 hour ago, bbishop said:

Are there "lasses" in the Scott class names?

 

Yes, as Tony itemised, but they are all characters from Scott's novels - some of which may be loosely based on historical personages (but those are more likely to be the noblewomen) so don't fit the bill for @robertcwp's poser.

Edited 59 minutes ago by Compound2632

[polybear]

1 hour ago, t-b-g said:

I have had a discussion with mum about getting her a soldering iron with a pink handle for Christmas but it didn't go well.

 
The idea of a soldering iron?  Or the idea of a pink handle?