Popular Post Tony Wright Posted July 8 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 8 The monthly Monday usuals met up today to run the trainset, insult each other and generally have a spiffing time - which we all did, so thanks to Geoff West, George Stevenson David Rae, and a fleeting visit from Sandra Orpen (who bought those EM wheels and the A4 tender, by the way). The customary 'interesting' things were placed on the track to run. Geoff brought............ A pair of carriages which run on Cwm Prysor. The Welsh layout was originally built by Tom Foster (and featured on RMweb), and Geoff bought it off him, including much of the stock. The lovely Comet brake compo would not negotiate curves because of insufficient clearance between the solebars and the top of the bogie; a simple fix - just a pair of thin, wide brass washers on top of the bolsters. The A1/1 (seen of late), built by John Houlden. And a DJH A2/3, also built by John (originally for Gilbert Barnatt, but now Geoff's property). A DJH Austerity (purchased off me from the estate of a deceased modeller). He's working on it. Another John Houlden loco in the form of this South Eastern Finecast K3. It came with no motor, so (some time ago) I built a gearbox for it and rebuilt the drive. Geoff bought this other SEF K3 off eBay, and, though it ran today, it really needs a new drive. I'll be investigating it before putting it up for sale (I certainly won't offer it until I'm happy with its running). He also brought along this ex-Leighford, ex Stoke Summit and ex-Charwelton K's ex-GC 2-8-0; the work of Rob Kinsey in the form of an O4/6. Two things - the bobby has returned his Up slow home to 'on' very quickly, and isn't Station Road a most-useful shelf? He brought along this Hornby 9F, weathered to perfection by Geoff Haynes. Finally (with regards to Geoff), as a comparison............ We put his John Houlden-modified Hornby 61213 alongside my Bachmann/Comet one of the same number. David came with this.............. Nu-Cast & Partners K2. I built the chassis for it for him and he did the rest. I think it's just great; at least once each month I get a selection of different models to run on LB, and I also get the opportunity to photograph them. I wonder how many other layouts have played host to such a fantastic variety of models? 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell price Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Some Halliday locos tired looking Lord Nelson. Think it’s a Hamblings body on a Halliday chassis, Romford wheels Romford series IV motor. Runs well. 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell price Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Not sure on the origins of this one, Southern U1 mogul, Hamblings wheels, GEM X5 motor on a Halliday scratch built chassis. 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell price Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Hamblings Fairburn tank??? Romford wheels, Romford series VIII motor again scratch built chassis, rear truck is a modded Triang item!! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell price Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Another unidentified loco is this kitson shunted, Halliday built can’t remember what motor is in this but it runs beautifully and very very slowly. I did give it a blow over of black to freshen it up. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell price Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Another Mystery is this GWR 9400 , all brass, well detailed if a bit chunky,again it runs lovely and slow. Romford Phantom motor and Hamblings Wheels. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PupCam Posted July 8 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, cctransuk said: A tapered / pointed 1/8" rod can be very useful for the preliminary 'lining-up' of components. Perhaps Puppers can turn up a suitable rod for you on the Myford @polybear? Payment with LDC would be acceptable* 😀 * Or maybe not mentioning a certain unfinished K3 would be adequate? Edited July 8 by PupCam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffer Davies Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, ROY@34F said: Looks good this chassis Frank . Could you tell me which H.L. motor and gearbox you used please . Is it sprung/equalised ? And they look like Sharman wheels ? Thanks . Regards, Roy . Hi Roy, The chassis is built with Continuous Springy Beams. The motor is a High Level 1219 coreless motor coupled with a HL RoadRunner Compact gearbox. Wheels are Gibson. I only wish we could still get Sharman wheels. Frank 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb900f Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 2 hours ago, russell price said: Another unidentified loco is this kitson shunted, Halliday built can’t remember what motor is in this but it runs beautifully and very very slowly. I did give it a blow over of black to freshen it up. Could it be Jidenco ? Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1471SirFrederickBanbury Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 7 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Could BEC kits be considered obscure? Perhaps, or at least to today's non-building generation of modellers. I made this ancient example some little time ago. Which Geoff Haynes painted. David Rae made this J17. And I can't recall who brought this BEC J17 along. Remind me of a conversation I had the other day about the want/need to build and modify things. I somewhat understand the temptation of someone without much skills to use an RTR loco, but I couldn't for the life of me understand the other persons severe aversion to buying second hand and modifying RTR, which is something I do often. I think that he just loathed the very thought of taking a screwdriver or paintbrush to his RTR rolling stock and voiding his precious warranty after he'd paid so much to buy the thing on pre-order, which baffles my mind! I told him about how I've been able to buy some of the best made RTR and American style (screw together pretty much) kits, like my Varney Super Mikado, my HobbyTowns, and my new Hornby J15, all for fractions of the MSRP, but we just couldn't get our heads around the other's ideas. Rather odd to think about isn't it? 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted July 9 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9 7 hours ago, russell price said: Another Mystery is this GWR 9400 , all brass, well detailed if a bit chunky,again it runs lovely and slow. Romford Phantom motor and Hamblings Wheels. I'd be interested to, I also have one which I assumed was scratch built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell price Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 7 hours ago, cb900f said: Could it be Jidenco ? Pete I think it’s too early for Jidenco, it’s all flat brass rather than etched. Built around 1955 I would think. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell price Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 3 hours ago, Richard_A said: I'd be interested to, I also have one which I assumed was scratch built. Have you a picture? Never seen another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted July 9 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9 Just bought a fictitious livery 47 off Ebay. Cheap, will get the works done, whatever I do it will look better. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 11 hours ago, PupCam said: Perhaps Puppers can turn up a suitable rod for you on the Myford @polybear? Payment with LDC would be acceptable* 😀 * Or maybe not mentioning a certain unfinished K3 would be adequate? * This one? Regards, Tony. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ian Kirk Posted July 9 Popular Post Share Posted July 9 On 07/07/2024 at 23:47, 26power said: Kingdom kits also did a Barclay 16” 0-4-0ST. Googling found this image of one them sold in an auction with one of the one you mention: https://www.vectis.co.uk/439-lot-468701 The search also came up with this of one built: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/kit-built-andrew-barclay-4-industrial-237277872 Kingdom kits was Gary Page who was one of the young men who worked for me in the 1970s. Kingdom started out producing cast metal conversion bits for N gauge diesels and went on to do the 4mm kits mentioned here. A qualified Engineer I think that he did the model stuff between jobs. Much later he produced some batch built RTR diesels. I forget the name he used, something liker Autocam? Expansion of the Heljan range killed these off. Not sure if it has been mentioned (I only recently picked up on this) but from Fife there was also N B Models. Norman Blackburn and mainly NBR types : J88, N15,J37 and the Austerity 0-6-0ST He started this at University and I introduced him to Sutherland Casters that I was doing some pattern making for at the time and who cast them for him. I believe that his Father kept the range available for a time while Norman shot around the Country in the back set of a Buccaneer. When he retired from the RAF he did some more kits but in O gauge. As well as running the plastic business I did pattern making for Sutherland, Nu Cast and GEM. These were good times for kits. best wishes, Ian 8 13 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 These are useful for setting up gearboxes/frames......... Markits' jig axles. 2 2 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibateg Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) I came across an old friend yesterday on Dave Nicholl's Brookmans Park. My DJH B16/3 61434 that I built many years ago. I recall buying the kit when I was 18 or therabouts! I keep getting a thing that pops up asking if I’m a robot. Looks like scam to me, anyone else getting that? Edited July 9 by dibateg Pop ups 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 During adjusting the gear mesh on the K3 mentioned yesterday........... I discovered that the builder had arranged the conjugated gear ahead of the cylinders to actually work! (Its movement is just visible). I've never seen this done on this model before; especially since, with the body on, its motion is invisible. Anyway, the gear is properly meshed now (though the DS10 and straight Romford gears would never be my drive of choice), so it's over to the trainset and see how she performs................ 14 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Going outside of the comfortable and familiar world of steam models, does the MSL range count as obscure now? They were etched kits for the Manchester-Sheffield-Wath electrics, including I think a proper specific kit for the LNER prototype, later named Tommy. I have not seen any recent mention of the range, so I presume it is defunct, a demise possibly hastened by the Oliivia's RTR range which failed to include the intended (promised?) proper model of Tommy. There was of course the "easier" DC resin body kit option for the MSW locos at the same time as the MSL range. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 6 hours ago, 1471SirFrederickBanbury said: ...I somewhat understand the temptation of someone without much skills to use an RTR loco, but I couldn't for the life of me understand the other persons severe aversion to buying second hand and modifying RTR, which is something I do often. I think that he just loathed the very thought of taking a screwdriver or paintbrush to his RTR rolling stock and voiding his precious warranty... There's a fair sized coterie of RTR model railway purchasers in the UK that take this position. This is often associated with the importance of the packaging being maintained in perfect condition. A rather different hobby from the one on the Wright lines... 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: During adjusting the gear mesh on the K3 mentioned yesterday........... I discovered that the builder had arranged the conjugated gear ahead of the cylinders to actually work! (Its movement is just visible). I've never seen this done on this model before; especially since, with the body on, its motion is invisible. Anyway, the gear is properly meshed now (though the DS10 and straight Romford gears would never be my drive of choice), so it's over to the trainset and see how she performs................ I can't imagine that DS10 being anything like adequate with single-reduction Romford gears for a K3 that's expected to do any heavy work. I found the only one I tried, in a Little Engines J11, to be incapable of running the loco and a fairly light train at a steady speed on a level layout whose curves were no tighter than 3 foot radius, and it was utterly useless faced with a rising gradient. Edited July 9 by gr.king 3 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted July 9 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9 59 minutes ago, Ian Kirk said: Norman Blackburn and mainly NBR types : J88, N15,J37 and the Austerity 0-6-0ST He started this at University and I introduced him to Sutherland Casters that I was doing some pattern making for at the time and who cast them for him. I believe that his Father kept the range available for a time while Norman shot around the Country in the back set of a Buccaneer. When he retired from the RAF he did some more kits but in O gauge. A Blackburn in a Buccaneer? Must be some kind of coincidence? 2 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 12 hours ago, Tony Wright said: The lovely Comet brake compo would not negotiate curves because of insufficient clearance between the solebars and the top of the bogie; a simple fix - just a pair of thin, wide brass washers on top of the bolsters. Blimey, I built that! I thought Tom had sold the coaching stock off separately. I'm pleased at least some of it stayed with the layout. I think I may have done some detailing on the chocolate and cream one as well, if it's a Hornby one. Of course there were no curves on the layout I built it for, so it worked fine when I delivered it to Tom. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PupCam Posted July 9 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: * This one? Regards, Tony. Oh no! Now Bear see what you have done! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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