RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted July 22 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: Such a shame about the profusion of vegetation on the lineside these days. Unfortunately it's not a new phenomenon. When I worked for Network Rail, before retirement a few years ago, it was bad then and vegetation cutting (or 'vegetation management' as they used to like to call it) was always an easy target if my elder and better sharp suit-wearing bosses decided to make budget cuts. The situation down here in the South West is effectively just as bad as it ever was, despite NR evidently having been given some more vegetation cutting monies a few years ago, when they 'blitzed' certain areas. In virtually every station area now, between the platforms, weeds and other plants seem to be allowed to bloom away in a fashion which would delight Alan Titchmarsh. I put much of this down to the decision to abandon proper weedkillers several years ago in favour of Liquid Growmore... Thanks Captain, Not only does unrestricted vegetation growth alongside railways suggest future (and current) problems - witness plants growing out of masonry - but it lessens the visual enjoyment of a train journey. A few years ago, Mo and I took a return train journey from Kingham (where we were staying near to on holiday) to Oxford (to meet friends). We went along a 'green corridor', with branches brushing against the train and completely obliterating any potential view. Some friends reported a similar experience travelling along the Central Wales line, the only 'wider' view being obtained from Knucklas Viaduct (and that had bushes growing from its parapets!). Spot the locomotive! Regards, Tony. 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted July 22 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22 A question, if I may? These 11 Trix whisky wagons have been donated for Cancer Research UK. All appear to be undamaged (though a bit dusty) and run freely. The question? Does anyone know their worth? Not much, I imagine. Maybe £50.00 for the lot? Any help/offers, appreciated. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb900f Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Tony , E bay once again 2 unboxed sold for £12 and another pair unboxed were sold for £18. Pete 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
41516 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 They used to be £6-10 each unboxed on Hattons Pre-owned site depending on condition. I can't see all of the sideboards, but it looks close to a 'full set' of the variations Trix released. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted July 22 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22 Thanks for the information on the Trix whisky wagons. I'm happy to say they've sold - for £50.00! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Tony Wright Posted July 22 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 22 In between finding photographs and taking photographs today, I've completed the bodywork on my latest SEF A4............. In need of a good scrub, then it'll be building the valve gear/motion. 22 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post westernviscount Posted July 22 Popular Post Share Posted July 22 (edited) Hi @Tony Wright. Thought you might like to see some of the early results of following the techniques you outline in the BRM video of the early days of Little Bytham. I think the influence (brazen plagiarism) is clear. I haven't clipped the grass back at this stage. I hope to experiment with colouring areas with the airbrush. Edited July 23 by westernviscount 20 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tony Wright said: A question, if I may? These 11 Trix whisky wagons have been donated for Cancer Research UK. All appear to be undamaged (though a bit dusty) and run freely. The question? Does anyone know their worth? Not much, I imagine. Maybe £50.00 for the lot? Any help/offers, appreciated. Tony I've always liked the whiskey wagons and have a collection of them - probably all that were produced plus a few of the Bachmann versions which appear to have used more or less the same moulds. Can you tell me the name on the one with short boards inside the Abbot's Choice - which is the one on the extreme right please (I've identified all the others). Glad you've a sold them. I actually had mine out for a couple of months and ran them with a Bachmann Class 20 - very different to what I normally run. Andrew Edited July 22 by Woodcock29 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I've answered my own question - I worked out it must be Haig. Andrew 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 23 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Woodcock29 said: I've answered my own question - I worked out it must be Haig. Andrew Don't be vague... According to http://www.trix.co.uk/wagons new.htm: 1680 Johnnie Walker 1681 Haig 1683 Vat 69 1684 King George IV 1685 Dewar's 1686 Crawford's 1687 White Horse 1688 Jamie Stuart 1689 Maltsters Association 1690 Abbot's Choice 1691 BR 1682 isn't listed and I can't find any reference to it elsewhere. All these brands (except the Maltsters' Association and BR, obviously) were in the portfolio of The Distillers' Company Limited (DCL), so presumably Trix had a licensing agreement with them. Edited July 23 by St Enodoc typo and extra info 1 2 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted July 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23 3 hours ago, Woodcock29 said: I've answered my own question - I worked out it must be Haig. Andrew Hope you're not being vague? 😉 Cheers, Mark 2 1 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 11 hours ago, Tony Wright said: In between finding photographs and taking photographs today, I've completed the bodywork on my latest SEF A4............. In need of a good scrub, then it'll be building the valve gear/motion. Can you advise how you prepare for painting, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee74clarke Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 18 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Great shot Ollie, I was ignorant of BLUE PETER's passing by, though I'm with you on your choice of location. In the last few years, I've found some decent locations for photography around Little Bytham (mainly taking pictures of TORNADO), though some of the following views are not possible now........... This was taken from the track beside the school. And this one shows that beautiful bridge you mention. I was not trespassing, just leaning over the low fence - a shot impossible today because of the palisade fencing now erected here. And, from slightly higher up. Doesn't she look better in this livery? Taken from the opposite side from your video. One really good spot was the top of the abutment which used to support the eastern end of the MR/M&GNR girder bridge (two local chums enjoying the spectacle). Such a view is now impossible because of fencing and even more tree growth. A little further north than your video (again, I'm leaning over the fence). I have no idea if this view is possible today. One view which is impossible to get today is this................. Shot of the station site taken in 1962 (seen recently). I did try to get a similar view 50 years later............... Without success!. It's even more overgrown after a further decade. The station site did give photo opportunities................. If one were standing on Marsh Bridge, though vegetation to the left and right is now so dense that a 'side view' is really restricted. And, the HSTs on this route are no more! Which is a pity, especially in this livery. When Ian Wilson lived in Careby.............. From his back garden, one could get shots like this (though I'm told fencing now blocks any view now). And shots like this. I just stood just below where an original fence had been. A shot at Bytham impossible now is this............ Because new houses now occupy the remains of the goods yard. Not all shots have been taken in warm, sunny weather (taken from by the bridge at Creeton). It was sometimes dull and damp............... Such as on these two occasions at Swayfield. I admit to taking my camera out very little these days. As intimated, in the 20 years we've lived in this part of the world, lineside photography has become more and more difficult (unrestricted tree growth must have consequences eventually). Nonetheless, I wouldn't live anywhere else. Regards, Tony. Couple of Bytham rogues in photo 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted July 23 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, jrg1 said: Can you advise how you prepare for painting, please? Good morning, I scrub the bodywork using an old (but still stiff) toothbrush using kitchen CIF, thoroughly washing it off afterwards. It'll then go off to Ian Rathbone or Geoff Haynes for painting - they have their own vigorous cleaning regimes, described in the respective books on model painting they've written. Regards, Tony. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted July 23 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23 The 11 whisky wagons (not whiskey - that's American) comprise......... Dewar's Abbot's Choice VAT 69 White Horse Haig The Maltsters Association of Great Britain Johnnie Walker Jamie Stuart Crawford's King George 1V Un-branded grey BR A complete set? 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 23 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: The 11 whisky wagons (not whiskey - that's American) comprise......... Dewar's Abbot's Choice VAT 69 White Horse Haig The Maltsters Association of Great Britain Johnnie Walker Jamie Stuart Crawford's King George 1V Un-branded grey BR A complete set? As above, I believe so. Edited July 23 by St Enodoc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Tony Wright Posted July 23 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 23 (edited) 10 hours ago, westernviscount said: Hi @Tony Wright. Thought you might like to see some of the early results of following the techniques you outline in the BRM video of the early days of Little Bytham. I think the influence (brazen plagiarism) is clear. I haven't clipped the grass back at this stage. I hope to experiement with colouring area with the airbrush. Good morning, I'm glad it's been of help. For those unfamiliar with the technique............. Always observe the prototype. It's certainly an inexpensive way of covering large scenic areas. And, when blended in with other scenic materials. I think the effect is realistic. Embankments and cuttings, the technique is really effective. There's a lot of it on Little Bytham. It seems to work at closer quarters, too............... One thing I have found (despite there being no natural light now in Bytham's home) is that over a decade the base 'green' faded a little. I just refreshed it with scenic scatter, held in place with hair spray. Regards, Tony. Edited July 23 by Tony Wright to add something 25 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb900f Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: The 11 whisky wagons (not whiskey - that's American) comprise......... Dewar's Abbot's Choice VAT 69 White Horse Haig The Maltsters Association of Great Britain Johnnie Walker Jamie Stuart Crawford's King George 1V Un-branded grey BR A complete set? Whiskey is Irish and spelt with an "e" to differentiate from the Scottish whisky 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted July 23 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23 13 minutes ago, cb900f said: Whiskey is Irish and spelt with an "e" to differentiate from the Scottish whisky Thanks, I knew that, but it's also American, isn't it? Regards, Tony. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 On 22/07/2024 at 09:07, Tony Wright said: Good morning Jesse, As Flying Fox has stated, it's Tuxford, between Retford and Newark, the erstwhile engineering headquarters of the LD&ECR, whose line crossed the ECML at right angles slightly further south of the bridge the picture is taken from. South of this bridge (which still exists because of its height; lower GNR three-arch overbridges were demolished with electrification) there were extensive sidings and Dukeries Junction - hence the splitting signal; all no more. In the distance is the GN station, signal box and level crossing (all obliterated some years ago, the crossing being replaced by an overbridge). The following pictures show some of Tuxford's environs (all, apart from my shot of the 'box, subject to copyright restrictions). This is how I first remember the place, well over 60 years ago now. The shot was taken from the same bridge, but looking south, revealing the junction, sidings and the LD&ECR bridge in the background. The line which contravened the Trades Description Act (it never got near Lancashire or the East Coast) was taken over by the GC, and there was a station on the bridge - long gone in this shot. That's the wonderful 'vantage point' bridge, though the junction and sidings have all gone in this early-'70s view. And, some more from that same period............ These were from the period when I was taking pictures here (mine have been published in my softbacks by Irwell). I also took some shots of the surviving (only just) infrastructure............. Including Tuxford GN 'box; switched out, abandoned but not yet attacked by the local brain-dead! Regards, Tony. At the end of the 70's the HST's had started to appear, otherwise little has changed from your shots a few years earlier (click on pic for details). Funny how things turn out, strongly disliked at first for replacing the Deltics, but forty years later chased and photographed by all and sundry. A bit like those early diesels really! John. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 23 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23 6 minutes ago, John Tomlinson said: At the end of the 70's the HST's had started to appear, otherwise little has changed from your shots a few years earlier (click on pic for details). Funny how things turn out, strongly disliked at first for replacing the Deltics, but forty years later chased and photographed by all and sundry. A bit like those early diesels really! John. Nice. That's in original condition. 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) I seem to have missed a lot on here over the weekend. On the matter of adding weight to locos, assuming that the chosen medium is actual fine lead shot, which was once sold in the hobby as "liquid lead" (whether or not it is still sold as such by any supplier), I'm not sure that the very generalised dire warning against use of "any sort" of PVA is quite valid. I have a DJH large-boilered GNR Atlantic that I may well have built as much as eighteen and a half years ago (not 15 as I first said), and much of its boiler is filled with "liquid lead" and "Resin W" type PVA glue, the stuff that is supposed to be weather-resistant / moisture resistant, and the only "open" face of the lead + glue mass was also sealed over with a layer of the kind of resin used to build-up layers of fibre-glass. There's still no sign of anything "naughty" going on. Had I used cheaper PVA, and left it un-sealed, I imagine I might have had trouble some time ago, and I can well imagine that iron-balls would not appreciate being in company with an initially water-based glue that was also moisture-absorbent over the later passage of time. I tend to use pieces cut from old lead water pipe instead now, bent or pounded to a suitable shape, leaving far fewer spaces than would exist between hundreds/thousands of small spheres. Edited July 25 by gr.king correction of construction date 4 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted July 23 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, gr.king said: I seem to have missed a lot on here over the weekend. On the matter of adding weight to locos, assuming that the chosen medium is actual fine lead shot, which was once sold in the hobby as "liquid lead" (whether or not it is still sold as such by any supplier), I'm not sure that the very generalised dire warning against use of "any sort" of PVA is quite valid. I have a DJH large-boilered GNR Atlantic that I may well have built as much as eighteen and a half years ago (not 15 as I first said), and much of its boiler is filled with "liquid lead" and "Resin W" type PVA glue, the stuff that is supposed to be weather-resistant / moisture resistant, and the only "open" face of the lead + glue mass was also sealed over with a layer of the kind of resin used to build-up layers of fibre-glass. There's still no sign of anything "naughty" going on. Had I used cheaper PVA, and left it un-sealed, I imagine I might have had trouble some time ago, and I can well imagine that iron-balls would not appreciate being in company with an initially water-based glue that was also moisture-absorbent over the later passage of time. I tend to use pieces cut from old lead water pipe instead now, bent or ponded to a suitable shape, leaving far fewer spaces than would exist between hundreds/thousands of small spheres. Good evening Graeme, It could well be that a higher-grade PVA doesn't react in the same way as cheaper stuff. Whether that's because it's more resistant to damp conditions, I don't know. However, from what I've been told (and I'm certainly not a chemist), it's the reaction between the PVA adhesive and the lead itself which causes expansion - to the extent of rupturing seams on soldered-together boilers and tanks. Personally, despite your 'happy experience' (so far), I'd advise never to stick lead-based material in confined spaces with PVA. I've seen some of the horrific results! I use epoxy, superglue or low-melt solder to secure ballast, whatever it's made of. Regards, Tony. Edited July 23 by Tony Wright typo error 10 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenysW Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 On 22/07/2024 at 13:56, Tony Wright said: I must take some more, now that the layout's complete A frivolous question ... Are you going to weather the platforms? Yours are in such better condition than the prototype! No evidence of patching, and no disintegrating asphalt on the slopes. No chewing gum either, but that's probably too small to model. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted July 23 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23 9 hours ago, John Tomlinson said: At the end of the 70's the HST's had started to appear, otherwise little has changed from your shots a few years earlier (click on pic for details). Funny how things turn out, strongly disliked at first for replacing the Deltics, but forty years later chased and photographed by all and sundry. A bit like those early diesels really! John. Deservedly followed too; hopefully not too sacrilegious to say so on this thread, but I will argue they were the greatest train ever built in the UK. There were many terrific locomotives, but how many combinations of stock were still highlighted in the timetable 30 years after their introduction? 8 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Nice. That's in original condition. Yes I noticed that; unit numbers below the nose, no exhaust deflector cowls and two buffet cars in the 8-coach formation. 5 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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