RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted September 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2020 30 minutes ago, Daniel W said: I've only just started my first loco kit and already had a disastor. I've always seen people fit axle bushes with the flange on the outside of the chassis when building kits, yet after soldering the bearings in to my Judith Edge North British shunter i realised that the etched axelbox overlays were designed to fit over the opposite side of the bush. Bit of a rookie mistake, since if i'd looked closer that would have been fairly obvious. Unless the etched axleboxes are desinged to be soldered on to the flanges of the bushes, but surely that would cause them to stick out far too much? Good evening Daniel, I'm puzzled as to what 'etched axlebox overlays' are. Are they necessary to give you a working chassis? How visible are they behind the wheels? If the answers to both questions are 'no' and 'not much' respectively, then don't bother with them, and solve your problem. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted September 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Chuffer Davies said: In which case you have my sympathies. If I've made a similar mistake its usually because I haven't read the instructions. Even worse it is when I've written the instructions in the first place. Cheers, Frank Instructions! The bane of many a kit's construction, Frank. I've learned now never to bother with them (though a decent 'exploded' diagram is most-useful). In every set I've read, I've always branched off from the prescribed path because they didn't suit the way I worked ('American' pick-ups for instance, though I know you like the system). Many suggest the use of glue (even in some etched kits) which is just a sop to those who can't solder and will only ensure failure. Some are the ramblings of the semi-literate, or even the illiterate, and some come with squiggly drawings which appear to be the work of children - dim children at that! Though I've written instructions for kit-manufacturers, I very much doubt if many follow them. In fact, the best use for instructions is to use the paper they're written on as spacers for assembling valve gear - torn away when a joint has been made! Regards, Tony. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted September 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, 96701 said: One of the most beautiful locomotives ever built. The real things, yes............... Regards, Tony. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted September 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, Tony Wright said: The real things, yes............... Regards, Tony. Oh, I don't know. That is a lovely model that you have there. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel W Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Good evening Daniel, I'm puzzled as to what 'etched axlebox overlays' are. Are they necessary to give you a working chassis? How visible are they behind the wheels? If the answers to both questions are 'no' and 'not much' respectively, then don't bother with them, and solve your problem. Regards, Tony. Thank you, Tony. The answer to those questions is indeed 'no' and 'not much', so I am considering simply carrying on regardless. To sate your curiousity i have included a quick photo of the frame and one of the etched overlays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted September 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, 96701 said: Oh, I don't know. That is a lovely model that you have there. That's very kind, Phil, But, tomorrow, I'll post some pictures of some really beautiful locomotive models.............. Regards, Tony. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted September 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, Daniel W said: Thank you, Tony. The answer to those questions is indeed 'no' and 'not much', so I am considering simply carrying on regardless. To sate your curiousity i have included a quick photo of the frame and one of the etched overlays. Carry on regardless, Daniel, By the time everything's painted, who'll know? Who'll be able to see? Regards, Tony. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, chris p bacon said: I was told once that there was a posh part of Bedford.........still looking for it..... There's those of us wot's lived in Bedford, and those of us wot lives in a road leading there...... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark C Posted September 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, 2750Papyrus said: There's those of us wot's lived in Bedford, and those of us wot lives in a road leading there...... Stotfold, for example.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Whizz Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 The perils of ignoring instructions and relying on experience and 'common sense' are many and varied, but are as nothing compared to the perils of relying on those qualities when there are no instructions at all. Today I spent nearly 20 minutes trying to get into a brand-new plastic tinlet of Humbrol acrylic matt black paint. Various sizes of screwdriver, thin blades, tweezers, fingernails ... nothing would lift that blasted lid, which grew more and more battered as I gradually increased the subtle force I was using until it became quite brutal. Fifty years of modelling experience and I couldn't get a bloo%y paint-tin lid off - ridiculous! And yet there clearly was a lid - it was quite plainly there, standing out from the top centre of the moulded plastic of the new-style container with its gently-serrated rim. Just as I was about to launch the damned thing from the railway room window, light finally dawned. Instead of trying to prise-off the lid, I twisted the top of the container - and it unscrewed cleanly in an instant; a shallow cap ending at exactly a printed line on the container, so no chance of noticing there was a join. No instructions on the can to say what to do, but even if there had been, who should need instructions to open a paint tinlet? Especially when the design clearly suggests a removable lid as of yore, just a minor redesign. Am I rubbish, or are the product designers for giving false 'cues'? Either way, ladies and gentlemen - you have been warned! 1 3 1 2 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 What about the Revell paint pots, they are weird. Robert 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, chris p bacon said: I was told once that there was a posh part of Bedford.........still looking for it..... That is rich coming from Sandy. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Clive Mortimore said: That is rich coming from Sandy. The home of the TV mast, assume it is still there. Long time since I drove up the A1 to St Neots. Martyn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2020 22 hours ago, Tony Wright said: It's probably best if any more 'English' discussions are kept to PMs (even though I'm responsible for starting it all up again). That said, why has the 'blight' of incorrect apostrophes become so prominent in English? Why is it now so common that plurals are granted apostrophes? One sees references to 'Pacific's' when it's not singularly possessive, but plural. It makes me rather cross! Isn't there some (splendid) guy going around correcting all the incorrect apostrophes on signs? In my case, the most-recent expression of incorrect apostrophe usage occurred in my driving through rural Norfolk to visit our younger son in Norwich. A sign by the side of the road proclaimed (in dribbled paint) 'DEANS LOG'S'! Regards, Tony. 21 hours ago, LNER4479 said: If he were, I suggest he be formally appointed as the Apostropher Royal Sadly, no longer the case. Apostrophe campaign ends due to 'ignorance and laziness' On the bright side though: "... he would not rule out starting a campaign to save the comma from a similar fate." 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Good evening Daniel, I'm puzzled as to what 'etched axlebox overlays' are. Are they necessary to give you a working chassis? How visible are they behind the wheels? If the answers to both questions are 'no' and 'not much' respectively, then don't bother with them, and solve your problem. Regards, Tony. These locos have their axleboxes fitted outside the frames rather than inside, they aren't very visible as you suggest but they are provided in the kit as overlays. I'll have to check what the instructions actually say buI I have been in contact with Daniel to offer some advice. 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted September 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, teaky said: Sadly, no longer the case. Apostrophe campaign ends due to 'ignorance and laziness' On the bright side though: "... he would not rule out starting a campaign to save the comma from a similar fate." Thanks Rob, A sad sign of the times............. Regards, Tony. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Tony Wright Posted September 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 As promised, Some really beautiful models of locos; starting with 7mm Scale, if I may? I'm not sure of the provenance of this superb 'Castle' on 82G (built by Warley Club members). It could be a Masterpiece RTR example, or kit-built, painted by Ian Rathbone. Either way, it's exceptional. 'Exceptional' RTR certainly describes this LL P2. Was there ever a more-elegant livery than Midland lake? The late Geoff Holt's work in Scale 7 on Dewsbury. The painting is the work of Larry Goddard. Exquisite work by Ian Hopkins. Out of necessity, scratch-built. And scratch-building of a more 'modern' type; Steve Barnfield's A1/1 I know several readers will drool over S&DJR blue. Trevor Gibson's 2-4-0 on Bridgwater. More Scale 7. The work of Martyn Welch. It doesn't get much bigger than this. Nick Dunhill's LNER Garratt. Nor more elegant than this; again, Nick Dunhill's work. A maroon 'Duchess' in the senior scale, not just painted by Geoff Haynes but built by him as well. I count it a privilege to have been able to take pictures of such wonderful models down the years. 4mm ones later............................ 30 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post PMP Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 As part of what have you done during the past few months there’s a link here from a project to Mr@Tony Wright A couple of years back I had the pleasure of visiting LB. Whilst there I acquired an 02 and this week it’s been going through the man cave with renumbering from LNER to BR and a new chimney. The chimney is one of those little changes that changes the whole character of the model, and really satisfying. This is it waiting for the board prior to getting fully weathered. On the subject of 02’s here’s another, a lockdown project and prior shelf queen. Now finished it’s a Craftsman etched kit from the 80’s with a High Level drive and Gibson wheels. This one took years of on and off the shelf, before finally getting done, not sure how many years but a suitably embarrassing number. 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold johndon Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks Rob, A sad sign of the times............. Regards, Tony. Bad enough but, apparently, the kids of today are 'intimidated' by full stops that they see as a sign of anger: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/language-experts-say-gen-z-are-intimidated-by-full-stops-as-they-imply-anger-121408847.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20vc2VhcmNoP3E9dXNlK29mK2Z1bGwrc3RvcCtpbit0ZXh0JnFzPW4mZm9ybT1RQlJFJnNwPS0xJmdoYz0xJnBxPXVzZStvZitmdWxsK3N0b3AraW4rdGV4dCZzYz0xLTI0JnNrPSZjdmlkPTc2QUEzOUU3Q0MyODQxNzg4NDgxNTE3MEU1ODQ5MUUx&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABUq6FgtfSHyUryG8Zfc-_gGTIXpwfM0M6ZhOc17GiXdmizeGXuIszpi1P1zeJzKHEGc7pmikuKMDtO_0tqifeZP3HR9-NpUeiVDoosvs0u7DxprlR1RShTaAzBjGo0n3pnsFK3Ws1EbInISEfUzUMCZet273Km1zLFjKYQLuhX9 You really couldn't make it up... Edited September 2, 2020 by johndon 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold johndon Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) Double post. Edited September 2, 2020 by johndon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, teaky said: On the bright side though: "... he would not rule out starting a campaign to save the comma from a similar fate." Which comma does he have in mind? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Joseph_Pestell said: Which comma does he have in mind? In his preface to Keep the Aspidistra Flying, George Orwell drew attention to the absence of the semi-colon from the novel; he declared it a redundant piece of punctuation. My experience of reading the novels of Henry James is that he was well ahead, having abolished the full stop a good half-century beforehand. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted September 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, johndon said: Bad enough but, apparently, the kids of today are 'intimidated' by full stops that they see as a sign of anger: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/language-experts-say-gen-z-are-intimidated-by-full-stops-as-they-imply-anger-121408847.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20vc2VhcmNoP3E9dXNlK29mK2Z1bGwrc3RvcCtpbit0ZXh0JnFzPW4mZm9ybT1RQlJFJnNwPS0xJmdoYz0xJnBxPXVzZStvZitmdWxsK3N0b3AraW4rdGV4dCZzYz0xLTI0JnNrPSZjdmlkPTc2QUEzOUU3Q0MyODQxNzg4NDgxNTE3MEU1ODQ5MUUx&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABUq6FgtfSHyUryG8Zfc-_gGTIXpwfM0M6ZhOc17GiXdmizeGXuIszpi1P1zeJzKHEGc7pmikuKMDtO_0tqifeZP3HR9-NpUeiVDoosvs0u7DxprlR1RShTaAzBjGo0n3pnsFK3Ws1EbInISEfUzUMCZet273Km1zLFjKYQLuhX9 You really couldn't make it up... I was going to press the 'amuse' button, John, However, on second thoughts.................... Perhaps there should be a 'couldn't make it up' button as well! Regards, Tony. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrMan Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Joseph_Pestell said: Which comma does he have in mind? Pronounced the same, but spelt Koma, is a people group in the north of Ghana, near the 'lovely' village of Yikpabongo (the Y is pronounced as a G). About 5,000 of them. I was there in about 1993. For those under two years old, I was the first white person they had seen! Only place where I have been sunburnt in the shade. Lloyd 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodcock29 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, PMP said: As part of what have you done during the past few months there’s a link here from a project to Mr@Tony Wright A couple of years back I had the pleasure of visiting LB. Whilst there I acquired an 02 and this week it’s been going through the man cave with renumbering from LNER to BR and a new chimney. The chimney is one of those little changes that changes the whole character of the model, and really satisfying. This is it waiting for the board prior to getting fully weathered. Something else you could do would be to replace the short handrails on the left tender side as shown in the photo with long ones. The model has the correct long ones on the other side of the tender! Andrew 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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