RMweb Gold Popular Post Tony Wright Posted March 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: You can't have too many wagons, and in any case, it makes a change from the same LNER loco with just the number changed!! Mike. May I respectfully suggest, Mike, that you make a trip to an optician's please? Though there have been a few LNER/ex-LNER locos featured in the last few pages, they are, in fact, in a minority. We've had shots showing a 4F, a Coal Tank, a Duchess, a 9F, an SR King Arthur, L1, M7 and an S11, not to mention further BR Standards (not ER-allocated). Should I request all of these have their numbers prefixed with a '6'? Speaking of 4Fs, I've now painted/lettered/numbered/weathered that old Acro one I completed last week. She's ended up as Leicester-allocated 44423, and her she is performing duties on the MR/M&GNR bit of LB. Ian Wilson's front numberplate just finishes off the loco's face. I have a prototype picture of her, coming off the branch at Saxby Junction, so she fits in well. I find it rather gratifying that a 70-year old kit, which has resided in dusty, rotting and mouse-nibbled boxes for all of 69 years is now operating as a 'layout loco' on LB. Gosh, it's nearly as old as I am! 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: May I respectfully suggest, Mike, that you make a trip to an optician's please? Tongue firmly planted in cheek Tony, firmly in cheek! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mswjr Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I really like the rusty rails on the siding,on the above picture, All very realistic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Many thanks Tony. Re the seam, I will probably sand it down a bit but leave it a bit rough. I spent a lot of time looking at the 'new' Mayflower as well as a few other pictures and sometimes it does look as though their might be a seam(weld) in it as though it had been fabricated as a two piece unit. However, on other picture there is no hint of a seam. again many thanks that sort of information to us expats is invaluable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted March 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Tongue firmly planted in cheek Tony, firmly in cheek! Mike. So's mine, Mike, so's mine. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibateg Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Tony - you'll have to copy Roy Jackson - I saw him with 3 sets of glasses round his neck once! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted March 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, dibateg said: Tony - you'll have to copy Roy Jackson - I saw him with 3 sets of glasses round his neck once! I think that's an idea, Tony, Especially having squirmed underneath the baseboards today to replace a (yet another!!!!!) SEEP point motor. I really need 'upside-down' glasses, because, no matter how hard I try, the sharp field of vision is never quite where I want it when performing my contortionist's act. These SEEP point motors are really disappointing. In 11 years, that's over a dozen failed. Not to start with, but they're failing at the rate of three a year now, and it appears to be an increasing rate. How many Peco point motors did we have fail on Stoke and Charwelton? Two, in over a hundred shows, spread over 20 years? False economy on my part. Never again. I'm not replacing the SEEPs like for like; no, with Peco point motors. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Tony Wright said: You need to lose the electrification warning sign Tony... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, dibateg said: Tony - you'll have to copy Roy Jackson - I saw him with 3 sets of glasses round his neck once! 00, EM and P4? 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, jwealleans said: Mike Radford hasn't forgotten that review, Tony - it came up the last time I spoke to him at a show. It was one of the earlier brass kits I built and I don't recall many problems except that there was a lack of information about the underframe layout. It trundled around Thurston for years. Are there any springs on the second one you've illustrated above? 54 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: It would appear not! Good Evening Gentlemen, It appears you both have problems with your Stratford BGZ under gubbins. They had an unusual arrangement of W irons and springs. The W iron was on the outside and the spring on the inside. Paul Bartlett has some nice photos in his collection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted March 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Theakerr said: Many thanks Tony. Re the seam, I will probably sand it down a bit but leave it a bit rough. I spent a lot of time looking at the 'new' Mayflower as well as a few other pictures and sometimes it does look as though their might be a seam(weld) in it as though it had been fabricated as a two piece unit. However, on other picture there is no hint of a seam. again many thanks that sort of information to us expats is invaluable. Just a few images of possible use.......................... MAYFLOWER herself, at York in 1958. Impossible to tell exactly if the coal division plate has been moved forward, though it could well have been. DIBATAG, at Doncaster in the early-'50s, The plate will be to the rear, but it's very low. 61170, also at Doncaster, around 1960. Plate still to the rear, and very tall. 61026, at Lincoln, in the early-'60s. This appears to have a tender with the plate still to the rear. 61120, at Retford around 1963. Plate now forward, and tall. Why, as 'fastidious' modellers, do we bother to centre our cabside numbers? 60803, at Lincoln, mid-'50s. Plate forward, and (just) evidence of a seam to the left. Someone was recently asking about the size of coal in locos' tenders. Look at the lump. It's as big as a man's torso! What do these show? That the moving forward of the rear coal division plate on the GS 4,200 gallon tenders was certainly not coincidental with the later style of BR emblem? I wonder if every one was altered. Regards, Tony. Edited March 21, 2019 by Tony Wright to clarify a point 11 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted March 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: You need to lose the electrification warning sign Tony... And add the 'E' suffix, John. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Tony Wright said: And add the 'E' suffix, John. Touché. Too early in the morning, that's my excuse. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I don't know where your local Specsavers is, Clive, but those W irons are definitely in front of the springs, skinny though they may be. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Just a few images of possible use.......................... MAYFLOWER herself, at York in 1958. Impossible to tell exactly if the coal division plate has been moved forward, though it could well have been. Were Jinties normally at York? Seems well off the LM Region to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted March 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Northmoor said: Were Jinties normally at York? Seems well off the LM Region to me. 47334, 47403, 47418, 47421, 47436, 47448 and 47556 were at at 50A at this time. Not only that, quite a few other 'Jinties' were also shedded at NER sheds in the late-'50s. Regards, Tony. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, jwealleans said: ... Clive, but those W irons are definitely in front of the springs, skinny though they may be. Ain't that what he said? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, jwealleans said: I don't know where your local Specsavers is, Clive, but those W irons are definitely in front of the springs, skinny though they may be. Hi Jonathan OK on third view I can see something. They could do with a bit of beefing up, they were not readily noticeable like the prototype. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2019 That's not a "seam" on the pickup dome, it's quite clearly a length of angle left over from the fitting of the division plate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold johndon Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2019 Fitting in with Tony's ethos of making things for oneself, here are a few picks of a current project, a 4mm scale, RT Models tipper wagon modified to have a solid buffer beam rather than dumb buffers. It's a white metal kit which has, sorry Tony, been glued together, weathering and painting is a mix of acrylics, pastel chalk and AK Interactive 'rust'. Lighting is awful but you get the idea: and, for a size comparison, with a Hornby 21T hopper: John 9 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arun Sharma Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: I shall endeavour to wear my RMweb name badge so you can identify me when I'm not leaning out of the cab of a 'Castle' (assuming your eyesight is good enough to see that much on my avatar). If you're wandering by the DEMU stand and want to rest your weary self - by all means use our stand's chairs [on Saturday at least!] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Tony Wright said: I think that's an idea, Tony, Especially having squirmed underneath the baseboards today to replace a (yet another!!!!!) SEEP point motor. I really need 'upside-down' glasses, because, no matter how hard I try, the sharp field of vision is never quite where I want it when performing my contortionist's act. Tony. I have also had problems with field of focused vision whilst working underneath baseboards. I mentioned this to my optician sister in law and she told me to go to the nearest supplier of cheap reading glasses and get the strongest I needed and use those. At £1 for two pairs Asda's (Other suppliers are available) work a treat. I keep a pair on my modelling desk and a pair in my toolbox for when I need to work under the layout. They work a treat as long as I don't wear them for too long. The alternative would be the very very expensive ones of the type that Dennis Taylor used for playing snooker. Jamie 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted March 22, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Michael Edge said: That's not a "seam" on the pickup dome, it's quite clearly a length of angle left over from the fitting of the division plate. I was referring more to the piece of metal on the far left of the inside of the tender, though, on closer inspection, it looks more like the remains of a flange plate. Is that how the original plates were fixed on - by angle plates and flanges? It seems to make sense. Yet (and of course I can't immediately find the piece) I've read that the original plates were flame-cut off, and the new (further forward) ones welded in place. Flame-cutting off the old ones and welding in the new ones would seem to be a quicker procedure. Anyway, thanks Mike. Regards, Tony. Edited March 22, 2019 by Tony Wright to clarify a point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Wright Posted March 22, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 hours ago, johndon said: Fitting in with Tony's ethos of making things for oneself, here are a few picks of a current project, a 4mm scale, RT Models tipper wagon modified to have a solid buffer beam rather than dumb buffers. It's a white metal kit which has, sorry Tony, been glued together, weathering and painting is a mix of acrylics, pastel chalk and AK Interactive 'rust'. Lighting is awful but you get the idea: and, for a size comparison, with a Hornby 21T hopper: John What wonderful work, John, Thanks for posting. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2019 11 hours ago, St Enodoc said: 00, EM and P4? Can't see Roy having a P4 pair somehow! Mike. 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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