250BOB Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Hi Bob I had a chat with Mike at the GCR show and he says they are waiting for the revised preproduction sample to be delivered to them. Hi Clive, Many thanks for the information.........a little longer to wait yet then. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Peter Beckett Posted January 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2015 Any news of delivery dates yet as I hope I have 2 on pre-order. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Any news of delivery dates yet as I hope I have 2 on pre-order. Peter I've not heard anymore since my last post on this thread......I too am very keen , and have one pre ordered. Hope to hear a progress report soon. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 There was an update in the December edition Hornby mag, which advised that the artwork for the first versions had been completed and the 4 versions would be BR green B964038, green syp B964064 and B964112 and blue full yellow ends B964062. Also advised that further work was taking place to complete amendments to the tooling and produce decorated samples. The article had an artwork example for B964112 which was dated 15/10/2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted January 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2015 And in my quest to find the latest date a DBT was in traffic, this is a candidate, a copyright slide I've recently won on ebay. 46003 at Bristol Parkway on the day of the Western Tribute rail tour 26/2/77, I was the opposite side of the tracks that day. I was shocked to see this photo because 1. I was probably there at the moment this train passed and can't remember seeing it 2. It's the latest I've seen of a brake tender in traffic. Neil 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 While waiting for these I ordered 2 of the angular design Stratford built, diagram 1/558, diesel brake tenders, produced by Brittania Pacific Models in 'oo' weathered green finish, for my birthday last April. These are lovely models, built to order at a reasonable price, with resin cast bodies and plastic Gresley bogies. Should complement the Hornby mag version when it arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted January 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2015 Just checked my logs yes 46 003 0900-1230 was seen on 26/2/77 at Bristol Parkway, so the date appears genuine. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AireValley1962 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Just found this page here - I have long been interested in a RTR Brake Tender, and was wondering what the pre-order price is and if there is a pre-order form online? Thanks, William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted January 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2015 William Hornby magazine preorder page http://www.hornbymagazine.com/view_article.asp?id=7114 Or if you can't wait http://www.britanniapacific.co.uk/DieselBT.htm Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grovenor Posted January 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2015 William Hornby magazine preorder page http://www.hornbymagazine.com/view_article.asp?id=7114 Or if you can't wait http://www.britanniapacific.co.uk/DieselBT.htm Neil This from the Jan 2015 isssue Delivery of the first batch is currently scheduled for the second quarter of 2014. and we complain about Hornby! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Its okay for you boys with 'OO', in 7mm you should see the wait for the Dapol 08 (Im a little poet and didnt even know it ). I have been working on a BT in 7mm if I wanted the other diagrams (angular types) I would have to scratch-build them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I'm happy to pre-order one but I can't find any reference to liveries. Or have I got senior again? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I'm happy to pre-order one but I can't find any reference to liveries. Or have I got senior again? Regards It's not obvious. There are some details in post #72 here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/64001-Hornby-magazine-oo-gauge-brake-tender/?p=1227575 Edited January 13, 2015 by BR(S) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CloggyDog Posted January 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2015 While waiting for these I ordered 2 of the angular design Stratford built, diagram 1/558, diesel brake tenders, produced by Brittania Pacific Models in 'oo' weathered green finish, for my birthday last April. These are lovely models, built to order at a reasonable price, with resin cast bodies and plastic Gresley bogies. Should complement the Hornby mag version when it arrives. Shame it's a scale 3ft too long... I had to hack 12mm out of the middle of mine to get the length right and then replaced the roller-bearing (EMU?) Gresleys with proper 8ft ones at 15ft centres. I wasn't impressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) Shame it's a scale 3ft too long... I had to hack 12mm out of the middle of mine to get the length right and then replaced the roller-bearing (EMU?) Gresleys with proper 8ft ones at 15ft centres. I wasn't impressed. Hi Alan Oh dear, it sounds it would have been easier to build one from plastic card. The up side is you have the first set of bogies for a AM2 Edited January 14, 2015 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2015 Anyone looking for more brake tender candy have a look at Dave's thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85326-dave-fs-photos-ongoing-more-added-25th-february/page-98post no 2432 onwards , follow the links Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Any news on the brake tenders.....I note checking the date of the first post on this thread, that it has now been 2 and a half years since it was first announced. I know that these time scales are par for the course at the moment........I'm also keen on getting a Bulleid diesel from Kernow , it must be 4 years since that was announced. Patience is a virtue..!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2015 They've probably abandoned it now Adrian isn't helping out any more! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 And in my quest to find the latest date a DBT was in traffic, this is a candidate, a copyright slide I've recently won on ebay. 46003 at Bristol Parkway on the day of the Western Tribute rail tour 26/2/77, I was the opposite side of the tracks that day. I was shocked to see this photo because 1. I was probably there at the moment this train passed and can't remember seeing it 2. It's the latest I've seen of a brake tender in traffic. image.jpg Inevitable question given that (1) you believe you were there on that date and (2) you don't remember seeing it. Slide dated incorrectly? Is there concrete evidence that the date it was taken was 26/2/77? I am a sceptic by nature, and in respect specifically of photography have seen a slide in a Kodachrome mount that looked 'perfect' and appeared to validate an event on a specific date. But no, the slide was a composite. The film came from a roll other than the rest of the slides with the stamped on Kodak process date identity; a very skilled piece of fakery swapping the frame of one film roll from its original mount and into a mount between other dateable events that occured much earlier, deliberately done for purpose of deception. That is such an excellent drab shades of brown winter picture The non-brown patch on the end of the Sourpuss (or whatever it is named) wagon next to diesel is rather good too. The sort of very commonly seen 'muck' that is difficult to replicate convincingly on a model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CloggyDog Posted May 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2015 Oh dear... just perusing the BRM Annual 2015, which has a 2-page spread on Diesel Brake Tenders, the text of which perpetuates the myth that the 1/557 tenders (B964029/30) ran on BR1s, even though there is clear photographic evidence in this very thread that they were on 9' LMS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted May 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2015 Inevitable question given that (1) you believe you were there on that date and (2) you don't remember seeing it. Slide dated incorrectly? Is there concrete evidence that the date it was taken was 26/2/77? I am a sceptic by nature, and in respect specifically of photography have seen a slide in a Kodachrome mount that looked 'perfect' and appeared to validate an event on a specific date. But no, the slide was a composite. The film came from a roll other than the rest of the slides with the stamped on Kodak process date identity; a very skilled piece of fakery swapping the frame of one film roll from its original mount and into a mount between other dateable events that occured much earlier, deliberately done for purpose of deception. The non-brown patch on the end of the Sourpuss (or whatever it is named) wagon next to diesel is rather good too. The sort of very commonly seen 'muck' that is difficult to replicate convincingly on a model. No I believe this to be genuine. I don't think I was there, I was definitely there - it was the date of the Western Tribute rail tour. Further the 46 has sealed beam headlights, this wasn't done on this loco until late 1976. I'm a natural sceptic too, but the weather is identical to 26/2/77 as well. I'd bet a lot of cash that the slide and date are genuine. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) No I believe this to be genuine. I don't think I was there, I was definitely there - it was the date of the Western Tribute rail tour. Further the 46 has sealed beam headlights, this wasn't done on this loco until late 1976. I'm a natural sceptic too, but the weather is identical to 26/2/77 as well. I'd bet a lot of cash that the slide and date are genuine. Neil And why not? They lasted well into the early 1980s http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/braketender The article in Backtrack about Acton Yard discusses their use from there. Paul Edited May 1, 2015 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) And why not? They lasted well into the early 1980s http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/braketender The article in Backtrack about Acton Yard discusses their use from there. Paul Indeed they did Paul, I found one in a mag I was thumbing through the other day (circa 1980) and was pleasantly surprised to see it there and identified as running circa 1980, I also purchased several photos from your good self for my BT projects - although my preferred era, in 7mm, is 1965-1976. Oh dear... just perusing the BRM Annual 2015, which has a 2-page spread on Diesel Brake Tenders, the text of which perpetuates the myth that the 1/557 tenders (B964029/30) ran on BR1s, even though there is clear photographic evidence in this very thread that they were on 9' LMS. I am finding that mags are often not doing the research these days, which is sad (as there is so much more info out there in terms of books published and the interweb et al), as they used to be a good, informative and factual starting point in the past, especially for, back then, those of us too young to be able to afford a library of books (or if the library didnt stock the book), having said that, in their possible defence, Brake Tenders are tricky little beasties. But AFAICT they either ran on, diagram specific of course, LMS 9' 0" riveted bogies or the LNER bogies, although, from memory, I think that BR MK1/BR1s bogies were muted at one time, but to date, I have not seen photographic evidence of such ever being fitted. Therefore one should only model what one can see/prove (all the usual caveats apply), it also has to remembered that drawings and plans are only a 'statement of intent', as far as us modellers are concerned, photos are evidence/fact, but even these need cross checking with records and drawings. Also as Brake Tenders, were in effect, make-do and mend in their nature, reconditioned parts, such as older bogie types were used, anything that was buckshee in fact. Even one transfer supplier has things slightly skewed when it comes to pre-printed numbers and 'branding' details, which then requires the modeller to 'cut and shut' such so as to make good. There have been one or two useful articles in the MRJ though. Having mentioned all of this I have still yet to build a perfectly accurate representation of a BT, Ive gotten close and I have two more to build (which hopefully, in terms of layout models at least, will get even closer). Edited May 14, 2015 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I am finding that mags are often not doing the research these days, Or just cutting and pasting from forums. (With a little bit of modification...) P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) Or just cutting and pasting from forums. (With a little bit of modification...) P I hadnt thought of it like that - you could well be right - eeeeeek! LOL!! I was ribbing my teenage niece, a bright girl, that all kids did nowadays, for their homework/projects, was 'cut and paste' from Wikipedia, she calmly and assertively replied that that would be out and out plagiarism (of course she is perfectly correct in her acerbic statement) and besides the teachers have a computer programme that can identify such cutting and pasting. In my day we just had to flog essays out at Uni, no internet and often wed be lucky to have a WP or PC. I also quipped back - to my niece and nephew - that this new software teachers were using would now ruin one of my other hobbies which is messing up Wikipedia entries (I am joking, it's a line that I nicked from The Big Bang Theory LOL), which in reality I dont have time for, even if I wanted to. My - older - nephew also bright, but a little naive, said; '...do you really mess up Wiki entries uncle M.?' My niece and I just looked at him and burst out laughing, then he got the joke, they're both Big Bang Theory fans too. Edited May 3, 2015 by CME and Bottlewasher 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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