RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) Sorry, the overwhelming evidence is to the contrary. ALL as-delivered colour photos that I've seen show, without a shadow of doubt, green battery boxes. NOTE TO KERNOW - Please save us the job of overpainting black battery boxes in green; (or include a tin of matching green paint in the box)! Regards, John Isherwood. If there is any doubt, it's best the battery boxes be finished in green on the models. Should any evidence subsequently point to them being black on individual locos and/or at specific times, that will be far easier to deal with than trying to match the green. I see a green box and I (might) want it painted black (apologies to Jagger & Co). John Edited August 14, 2018 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2018 Hmm ... According to some sources there may be 50 Shades of Black John... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2018 Hmm ... According to some sources there may be 50 Shades of Black John... Phil True, but probably hundreds of shades of green, Phil...….. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) Green, no yellow ends and black battery boxes https://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6294769403/in/album-72157628011807418/ Exactly so - and as exactly as I still remember it because D601 was the first mainline diesel loco I ever saw. You do of course need to allow for the way the light is catching it which can tend to alter one's perception of the colour - best to compare it with similar highlighted areas which are known to be black. REALLY ????? If that battery box is black - I'm a Dutchman !! Regards, John Isherwood. Goedmorgen . It is as black as the day it was when new. Edited August 13, 2018 by The Stationmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2018 It is not often I disagree with so knowledgable person as Mike (The Stationmaster) but I feel we shall have to agree to differ on this one. Battery box and fuel tank covers might well have been specified as black (or cream, or grey) and recalled as being black (probably road grime and oil staining in reality) but photographic evidence shows ex-works, in-traffic and withdrawn locos in green livery to have had green lower panels as well. The jury still seems to be out on the blue ones. The fuel tanks were definitely grey or pale cream - most likely the latter as it was a colour commonly used on various internal components - like certain other BR designs the fuel tanks were inside the loco body and not underneath it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2018 I am a bit confused by this photo as to what colour the battery box covers are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2018 I am a bit confused by this photo as to what colour the battery box covers are. I wondered what happened to that can of invisible paint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I am a bit confused by this photo as to what colour the battery box covers are. Easy, they are painted with transparent paint You get it at the same place that sells striped & checked paint . Glad I could help John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2018 What colour is a can of worms, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I blame artificial light. I e-mailed Kernow to the effect that the battery boxes were clearly black, citing a photograph of D602 Bulldog in Diesel Pioneers, Robert Stephens, Atlantic, 1988. Now I have had a look at the picture linked in post 916 by 25901 and expanded it. (My laptop is connected to my television.) I’m bound to agree with Mr Isherwood that the battery boxes are green. Having crept out into daylight, I had another look at Diesel Pioneers and, blimey, they are green. I shall have to e-mail Kernow again. Before I go to eat humble pie, the said book was a birthday present from my cheeky daughters, who inscribed it, “For dad who is getting REALLY old! This was for your 43rd birthday, imagine!!!” You can imagine my delight in showing it to the author of the comment on her 43rd. birthday. Sadly, that must mean that (in modern parlance) I’m REELY, REELY old. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2018 Easy, they are painted with transparent paint You get it at the same place that sells striped & checked paint . Glad I could help John Hi, I wonder if they are the the same folk that make the paint for Edinburgh's buses; it makes them invisible to the pedestrians who walk in front of them! Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I am a bit confused by this photo as to what colour the battery box covers are. Stick with the ER Clive..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted August 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2018 I wondered what happened to that can of invisible paint. It's right in front of you, can't you see it it... oh, hang on... um... er... yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Bluebottle: 'Ere, Eccles. Are you sure you aren't colour blind?Eccles: Um, yup.Bluebottle: Oh well. Goodbye den, Eccles. (Exits room, door closes). Eccles: Goodbye, Redbottle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) This is definitive - They are GREY!!! http://www.scot-rail.co.uk/photo/fullsize/2046/ Martin Edited August 14, 2018 by MartinTrucks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEDDYBEAR D9521 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Not sure if anyone is aware there is colour film of D600 on the sea wall at Dawlish 1959 on the 125 video collection Diesel and Electric 2 and you can see the battery boxes are green also there is other colour photos of a D600 at Truro which show they are green. Later photos after works visits show them black so it looks like green when new and black after works repaint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2018 Cossack says, "I bet the fat bald bloke ain't got a clue where the green paint is." 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 It is also easier to repaint green into black than vice versa if there were to be any doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted August 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2018 Or you're all correct, but the boxes were different colours on different engines at different periods. Gets. Coat. Leaves. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Modern Locomotives Illustrated N0 219. I think the newly painted one photographed can't be described as anything other than green. Most of the other colour photographs appear to be green but there is more weathering in them.However there is at least one that could be black although it was not newly painted or new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEDDYBEAR D9521 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) Does this help D603 Truro battery boxes look green to me not my photo Edited August 14, 2018 by TEDDYBEAR D9521 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2018 Definitely green But still no clear colour image of a blue 6xx showing the battery box covers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15, 2018 Does this help D603 Truro battery boxes look green to me not my photo What colour is the FPL cover to the left of the loco? Like the battery box covers it too has weathered and acquired a patina of dirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I cheekily suggest that we have a poll ‘Green’ or ‘Not Green’ and exclude anyone who is colour blind! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted August 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2018 What colour is the FPL cover to the left of the loco? Like the battery box covers it too has weathered and acquired a patina of dirt. Then why are the bogies clearly black - after all, the bogies and battery boxes are subject to the same weathering processes? If anything, I'd expect the bogies to acquire a lighter shade than the smooth battery boxes under weathering, as their surface details would trap the dirt. Let's face it - no matter what evidence is presented - you're not going to concede the point at this stage, are you? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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