mozzer models Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I don't see how. A slug contains electric traction motors that are powered from the generator on the loco it's coupled to. The 08 and 09 are mechanical transmission locos, and do not have generators for traction motors. I see what ya did there, I think an 08/9 would make a handy little slug personally. BR just removed the cab from one 08 then coupeled it to another 08 & called them class 13 4mm BR Class 13 Shunter Converted from 2x Hornby class 08 Shunter by Mozzer models, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I see what ya did there, I think an 08/9 would make a handy little slug personally. Yes a crude attept using windows paint but gave a basic idea, mind you I did like the back to back 37 posted earlier in the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted December 29, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 29, 2013 I don't see how. A slug contains electric traction motors that are powered from the generator on the loco it's coupled to. The 08 and 09 are mechanical transmission locos, and do not have generators for traction motors. The 350hp shunter is actually a diesel electric, so theoretically could be arranged as a mother + slug. However, the transmission is already set up to absorb the full engine power at low road speed and produce high tractive effort, so there wouldn't be any advantage in doing so. In the Class 13, of course, both units retained their engine and generator. The Class 37 transmission absorbs full power at about 14mph; below that speed there's excess engine power that could be used by a slug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I don't see how. A slug contains electric traction motors that are powered from the generator on the loco it's coupled to. The 08 and 09 are mechanical transmission locos, and do not have generators for traction motors. The 08-09 family are 0-6-0DE locos. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 BR just removed the cab from one 08 then coupeled it to another 08 & called them class 13 4mm BR Class 13 Shunter Converted from 2x Hornby class 08 Shunter by Mozzer models, on Flickr A grand conversion and weathering you`ve done there Mozzer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 A grand conversion and weathering you`ve done there Mozzer Seconded. To answer Budgies question, my enormous ignorance on the internal workings of most diesel locomotives. What I was aim at was some form of 'Box-Locomotive', unmaned of course, you take the 08/9 chassis, wack in an electric motor, AC-DC... I could go for some AC-DC right now, weight it properly, then stick a box body on, in fact while you're at it, glue a panto on top as well. Then put it in a closed circuit marshalling yard with controls in the central office. Well this discussion has been fascinating but must dash, I do hope to maintain correspondence with your good selves, though I warn you the benefits of friendship with me are dubious at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted December 29, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) The 08-09 family are 0-6-0DE locos. To answer Budgie's question, my enormous ignorance on the internal workings of most diesel locomotives. Yes, OK, I will own up to my ignorance of the internal workings of diesel locos. What I was aiming at was some form of 'Box-Locomotive', unmanned of course; you take the 08/9 chassis, whack in an electric motor, AC-DC... I could go for some AC-DC right now, weight it properly, then stick a box body on, in fact while you're at it, glue a panto on top as well. Then put it in a closed circuit marshalling yard with controls in the central office. Sounds like a good idea to me. Edited December 29, 2013 by Budgie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Now that the P2 is with us, can you clever guys come up with 2-10-2 and other extended versions please? Ed Sorry it took so long... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Sorry it took so long... P2 cut 'n' shuts.png Quite phallic, aren't they!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CloggyDog Posted February 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2014 Wasn't there also a single-cab Co-Co with a deltic lump amidships... looking a lot like a stretched 20?? A book that has inspired these. A pair of single engined Deltics. 008.JPG 009.JPG A Baby Detic with a 18 cyilnder engine 011.JPG A Baby Detic with a V8 engine 010.JPG A EE Co-Co with twin 9 cylinder Deltic engines 013.JPG A V12 engined A1A-A1A, this is mentioned in Brian Webb's text. 014.JPG Had Newton-le Willows been allowed to make the D400s in their own house style D700.png Last of all, in Brian Webb's book is a very ugly looking twin Deltic engineed diesel hydraulic loco. Even the Vulcan Foundry could not let shuch a hiddious looking machine go to the WR so they used their standard cab for it. 016.JPG I did have a play with some surplus Lima 20 shells a few years back... the double-cabbed version, a cabless booster and a stretched EE single-cabbed Type 4. Might still have those knocking around the junk box... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Quite phallic, aren't they!? I've been mentioning Anne Summers in the same sentence as A4s for quite some time and many NYMR staff now refer to them as something quite rude that the language filter won't let me type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted February 13, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2014 Sorry it took so long... P2 cut 'n' shuts.png Go on, give it a longer bogie tender... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Go on, give it a longer bogie tender... May not be a bogie, but a 10-wheel tender should do it for 20000 'The Northern Cook' 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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69843 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 In 1925, the Southern Railway needed a new shunting locomotive for Ashford Locomotive Works. Two locomotives were trailed, an ex-LB&SCR A1X and an ex-SE&CR P. While neither proved up to the task, the A1X was seen to be the better design in terms of expansion. So, in 1926 a larger 0-8-0T version of the A1 was constructed, being given the classification A2 and was named 'Ashford Works' (the name was removed in 1951). This locomotive served the works from 1926 until closure in 1962. On closure, BR considered transferring the locomotive to another area, but as it was the only locomotive in it's class and steam was already nearing the end of it's life, the locomotive was cut up at Eastleigh in 1963. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 In 1925, the Southern Railway needed a new shunting locomotive for Ashford Locomotive Works. Two locomotives were trailed, an ex-LB&SCR A1X and an ex-SE&CR P. While neither proved up to the task, the A1X was seen to be the better design in terms of expansion. So, in 1926 a larger 0-8-0T version of the A1 was constructed, being given the classification A2 and was named 'Ashford Works' (the name was removed in 1951). This locomotive served the works from 1926 until closure in 1962. On closure, BR considered transferring the locomotive to another area, but as it was the only locomotive in it's class and steam was already nearing the end of it's life, the locomotive was cut up at Eastleigh in 1963. 'Ashford Works'.png That's just legendary! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2014 The U2 perhaps? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2014 The U2 perhaps? Sorry, but much like Gary Powers' U2, it deserves the same fate Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted February 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2014 Just love that 2-10-0 no 51240 at post 139 above - it's really cute! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 A couple of older ones from me that have appeared elsewhere on here before: A Princess Royal with double chimney and smoke deflectors Duchess of Hamilton and coach #5987. The coach is the item that has been cut and shut, and is correct to #5987 how she is now, including window positions, doors etc. As the Peppercorn A1s were originally going to be streamlined, I put a picture of 60163 in streamlined form together. This is actually a major cut and shut, and not just an A4 body on a Peppercorn chassis And how the Leader was originally meant to look. This one took a while, as it was like building the whole picture from scratch 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Hornby-r3024-0f-pug-040-british-railways-black-no-51240-9022935-0-1355506181000.jpg Is that to make the pug cope with shunting speed through set-track insulfrog points? a.JPG Triang dock shunter front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2014 If the 9F's were retained until the end of their working lives perhaps the following could have occurred. For such a small number of steam locomotives the retention and maintenance of water columns would be uneconomic so therefore to increase water capacity two bogie tenders would be provided based on the frames of the Diesel brake tenders but fitted with a water tank, the tenders would be one each fore and aft. The tenders would also have a driving cab at the outer ends to eliminate signal sighting problems. The locomotives themselves would be converted to oil burning, the fuel oil to be carried in a tank in the space between the frames and the boiler (belly tank?), to be enclosed in a casing similar to the spam cans. With the oil fuel the controls for which can be fitted on the footplate or in the cab or both with the possibility of one man operation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2014 This is something that was modelled by Simon Martin a while back.. here: http://www.britishrailwaystories.com/search?updated-max=2011-08-09T16:20:00%2B01:00&max-results=7&reverse-paginate=true The Thompson R1 (Although I did use a Peppercorn loco as a base) 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted February 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2014 There looks to be almost enough room in there for another set of driving wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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