RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 8, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 8, 2016 I dont wish to be to pedantic, as its a rather good photograph, but they are both wearing glasses and not reading something, so would have failed their medical's. Both are a bit too old to be firemen as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb900f Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Both are a bit too old to be firemen as well. Not in the Hull area they wouldn't . Some T/Crew at Hull never got to be drivers and retired as passed firemen. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2016 Both are a bit too old to be firemen as well. Not in the Highlands alas - plenty of Firemen in their 50s in some of the more remote Scottish depots (although I'll give you that these two mind be a touch older than that ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubber Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Glad you liked them!! Dave would be very miffed to be considered too old to be a fire man! From the same trip up to Mallaig [best fish and chips I have ever tasted...] Dave doing the hot stuff, and a gentleman in a kilt on Mallaig Harbour Station taking pictures of a West Coast excursion diesel. Finally, although they are not 'humans', Lucy and Dudley go everywhere as props for our smaller relatives and friends' children, and only marginally human, 'Yours Truly' at Mallaig, not wanting to be moved! Doug 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scott Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 If he's waiting for the locomotive he's at the wrong end of the train (note the tail lamp). As a guard I wear both wrist watch and pocket watch to ensure I have at least one in working order. Its the same with other kit - two whistles, 2 number 1 keys 3 carriage keys and 2 red flags On SVR the tail lamp must be removed before the loco buffers up 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railsquid Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 So when's the loco going to arrive then? DSCN2206.JPG "How much longer do I need to keep this carriage from rolling backwards?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railsquid Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 As a guard I wear both wrist watch and pocket watch to ensure I have at least one in working order. Its the same with other kit - two whistles, 2 number 1 keys 3 carriage keys and 2 red flags On SVR the tail lamp must be removed before the loco buffers up OT, if you happen to know a chap from Gladestry who clips the tickets, say hello from Japan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Selfie using a tripod whatever next? Re-tail lamps, think usual practice is to keep it on until the train engine arrives and couples up. Then it's removed. When I was pipe monkey, I'd place the (upon terminating) redundant tail lamp approximately six feet from the coaches on the platform edge. On the understanding the driver of the loco coming on that end would stop there before I called him on.Driving directly on to the stock technically being a collision in the rule book to which we worked. Worked very well actually, whilst I never doubted my drivers ability to go straight on, the dwell/think time of a few seconds I believe benefitted everyone. C6T. Edited August 9, 2016 by Classsix T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Should've worn my thermal underwear..... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted August 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Selfie using a tripod whatever next? Re-tail lamps, think usual practice is to keep it on until the train engine arrives and couples up. Then it's removed. If a tail lamp is still attached to a train on the Mid Hants we have to stop short as it has the same meaning as a NTBM board if left on stock. Edited August 9, 2016 by PhilH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted August 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2016 Waiting for the right away 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2016 Dave and Brian, Aviemore 2013 Dave and Brian.jpg Didn't there used to be a rule that glasses were prohibited on steam locomotives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2016 Didn't there used to be a rule that glasses were prohibited on steam locomotives? Footplatemen were not allowed to wear spectacles on the footplate thus anyone with a distant vision problem which required glasses was automatically taken off; reading glasses were acceptable but were not permitted to be worn on the footplate. Things changed once steam had ended and the first step was permission to wear specs which met BR conditions (they had to have shatterproof lenses) and any Driver reporting for work had to have with him a spare pair if he need glasses for distant vision. So things changed from none being allowed for distant vision to being required to carry two pairs. I haven't got a clue what goes on nowadays (and with some operators I shudder to think - must add that one to a possible upcoming checklist I might be asked to jot down). Incidentally when glasses were allowed for steam engine footplate work there were very stringent requirements regarding the type of glass to be used - even more so than the original requirements for working on diesels etc so I understand. and in fact anyone who wears glasses while working on a steam engine footplate would be a large number of sandwiches short of a picnic if the y didn't make absolutely certain about the quality and toughness of the lenses. Contact lenses were barred by BR for diesels and steam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted August 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2016 I imagine the thing about glasses is they are visible - with contact lenses a third party cannot tell whether they have got them in or not, where as if your staff ID / file states you require glasses and you are found not wearing them then it's an obvious transgression of the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I imagine the thing about glasses is they are visible - with contact lenses a third party cannot tell whether they have got them in or not, where as if your staff ID / file states you require glasses and you are found not wearing them then it's an obvious transgression of the rules. And contact lenses and the coming out of a steam loco are not a good combination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2016 I imagine the thing about glasses is they are visible - with contact lenses a third party cannot tell whether they have got them in or not, where as if your staff ID / file states you require glasses and you are found not wearing them then it's an obvious transgression of the rules. Not entirely - the principal reason is personal safety and operational safety. When something goes in the cab, such as a gauge glass blowing, contact lenses become just another potential cause of injury. Even in less stressful times there's a risk of coal dust blowing about and sundry other things going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubber Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Verona this Spring, shy lady driver. I waved but she didn't wave back.... Also note white painted rails appropos of the 'White Rail' thread Doug 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scott Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Should've worn my thermal underwear..... DSCN2415.JPG Why is it that when you go to give the driver a message, e.g. request for Country Park, the fireman uses the injector and wets ones boots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2016 Why is it that when you go to give the driver a message, e.g. request for Country Park, the fireman uses the injector and wets ones boots Perhaps to give you a message? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Verona this Spring, Also note white painted rails appropos of the 'White Rail' thread Doug And Oleo's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Somerset and Dorset driver Donald Beale oiling round a 9f, screencapture of the 1986 BBC documentary Return to Evercreech Junction. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) Somerset and Dorset driver Donald Beale oiling round a 9f, screencapture of the 1986 BBC documentary Return to Evercreech Junction. image.jpg Excellent post Michael, he was a legend amongst many others on the S&D. Very happy to relate that by the odd degree of separation or two, there are still some 'old school' footplatemen about today with connections to steam, one of my colleagues down at Reading is soon to retire but I was very chuffed to here from him recently that his lifelong best mate was the fireman on Winston Churchill's funeral train in January '65. Edited August 11, 2016 by Rugd1022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Obviously not a trainspotter. 158952 slips away unobserved on a Cardiff to Portsmouth service. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) The human side of the railway personified, I had this text from my younger brother recently... ''According to ASLEF I am the youngest pre-privatisation safeguarded Driver on the railway. The BR pension scheme dies with me. BR dies with me... their words! I'm actually a bit tearful'' Edited August 16, 2016 by Rugd1022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 The BR pension scheme dies with me. BR dies with me... And we supposedly live in better times? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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