RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 A couple of reference photos of Bedfords similar to the one I'm building, used mainly for details of the body. Preserved flatbed. Period flatbed. And a useful chassis shot showing the usual square Bedford fuel tank and brake gubbins. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 Blocking back outside the home signal. Covered by the rules if allowed by the sectional appendix. Blocking back outside would only be issued if the bobby had a normal needle, and then required to shunt wrong line towards the previous box and that shunt would pass beyond the home signal, unlikely to happen much on BCB, more likely the bobby would simply leave the needle pegged to train on line, but blocking back inside which was given if a vehicle need to come to a stand within the clearance point would be quite common. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durham light infantry Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Don't forget the sweeping brush stuck shank end down in the headboard framing. A) to sweep the deck off, and B) more importantly to dip the fuel tank because the gauge doesn't work! Mike 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'd love to see a flatbed with a load of new toilet pans... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted December 3, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 3, 2012 In fairness, when I saw Treneglos I was plied with tea and cake! Only because we were full. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 Blocking back outside would only be issued if the bobby had a normal needle, and then required to shunt wrong line towards the previous box and that shunt would pass beyond the home signal, unlikely to happen much on BCB, more likely the bobby would simply leave the needle pegged to train on line, but blocking back inside which was given if a vehicle need to come to a stand within the clearance point would be quite common. A couple of further points on this - Firstly no special authority was needed in the Sectional Appendix or anywhere else to Block Back outside the Home Signal, the only things which mattered were the length/state of the block section in rear, the gradient in rear, and the position of any unworked trailing points (which usually meant catch points). But as Beast has said the likelihood of an Outside (the Home Signal) Block Back on BCB would be very remote in normal everyday working. But Blocking Back Inside (the Home Signal) would be needed if any shunt was to be made onto and come to a stand on either of the running lines, including briefly coming to a stand prior to reversing because the pointwork is within the quarter mile Clearing Point that exists in advance of the Home Signals. None of this is a problem - just a simple part of everyday railway work - but it does have an impact on train working because if the Signalman has blocked his Clearing Point it means that he can't accept a train from the signalbox in rear (unless the warning Arrangement is authorised) And on BCB this means you cannot have a train approaching from a fiddle yard if there is something already standing on the running line which that train would be using. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 3, 2012 her's a question... I live in Stafford and there are two ex pubs (one's closed and the other is a curry house) that each have a moulded plaster sculpture on the pubs uprights (between the windows). It is circular, about a foot in diameter with an eagle and in its upraised claw there is a bunch of grapes or maybe a 'hop'. In Wolverhampton a similar design exists on a pub (about half way between fallings wood and Heath Town - on the junction of the A460). The pub is called the Golden Lion (I think, it's a Gold something) This is one moulding, much bigger and this time it is a 'hop'. Connected ? Does anyone recognise a long lost brewery logo ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 "Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties because it's COOOLD out there today!" Here are the set of gates for W E Millward Ltd, again... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I don't think it's too long-lost Andy but there is a connection somewhere and I'm trying to remember which brewery chains may be involved. I assume one of your Stafford pubs is The Crispin (as was) - http://goo.gl/maps/xS4Us and I haven't worked out your other Stafford one and Fallings Park's Golden Lion is here http://goo.gl/maps/JneBC Another one that has it is The Pilot - http://goo.gl/maps/QoYyL which looking at them as a whole they seemed to be larger 1930-50s 'community' pubs built close to residential expansion. I remember The Pilot being an M&B house which led me to track down the emblem of William Butlers who were taken over by M&B - http://www.geolocation.ws/i/E/1904021 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 I hope you don't expect their lorry to be as grubby as the gates... very nice 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R A Watson Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Don't get me wrong on this but that building does not need a roof or doors and windows, just some debris and shrubbery in side and it would be beautifully derelict! Verrrrry nice work. Wally 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 Chris, do you want the gates open, closed, or working ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Cook Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Wrapped up shut, left open closed or tied in a bundle loose. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'd love to see a flatbed with a load of new toilet pans... I'm sure you would Stu... First progress report - The Bedford TK. The whole thing has been taken to bits I've started with the body using planked plasticard and Evergreen strip, the headboard strengthened with angle and channel. The body will be fixed to the chassis with a 10BA bolt. Fits well! Is this going a bit far with the cab interior detailing? 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) I'm sure you would Stu... Is this going a bit far with the cab interior detailing? Not at all, but you forgot the copy of the 'Sun'. Edited December 3, 2012 by PhilJ W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 Not at all, but you forgot the copy of the 'Sun'. Just a representation but there is a paper there... along with the Thermos and bait tin (what's the BC name for this?). 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 3, 2012 I've been having a look at the area available and reckon that if it is to be a farm at all, then it'll just have to be some random building (like an old barn) rather than all the associated buildings, unless some (most?) are low relief. I mapped out the area on graph paper, drew in the existing features and then placed on first just a length of track, a suitable industrial loco and an unsuitable lorry for scale, and then took another one with two Skaledale terraced houses on. The thing that springs out is that the building will be pretty close to the crossing or need to be set back a bit, and then there is the consideration of the rising ground. As such, this option is looking like a winner to me so far, or even something smaller? : http://blackcountryhistory.org/collections/getrecord/GB145_p_3607/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 There is the Brewery History Society http://www.breweryhistory.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 A lot about food and drink on this thread - but not too much by way of culture. I love the old pubs and beers of the Black Country. First came to know them back in the 70s when canal cruising. Back then there were plenty of pubs that only sold mild on draught. If you wanted "bitter" or lager, you would have had to buy it in a bottle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 In case the canal catches fire? When I worked in Wednesfield in 1951/2 (!!) there was a story that a lump of pure Sodium metal "went missing" from it's safe environment at a local (canal-side) Aluminium factory. The resulting search culminating in the Sodium being thrown into the canal, where it floated and came to rest against the lock gates. Result was that the heat generated by the reaction between water and Sodium caused the lock gates to catch fire, and the gates having to be replaced! At this distance in time, I don't know if the story is true, but it is certainly plausible! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I was just thinking that if you push the houses back from the road a bit, it would allow space up the side to give an entrance to a yard at the rear. You could then do quite a few small odd shaped buildings there. See flikr pics beow http://www.flickr.co...oto/3188722414/ http://www.flickr.co...oto/3187740997/ http://www.flickr.co...N03/4976615904/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 In case the canal catches fire? In Manchester too. In April 1970, an estimated 14000 gallons of petrol 'overflowed' from a tanker whilst it was being loaded at Partington on the Manchester Ship Canal. When it ignited, over a mile of canal was ablaze and five men crossing on Partington ferry (just a rowing boat) were killed, and four severely injured. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2012 Chris, do you want the gates open, closed, or working ? The answer to your question appears to be "Yes" Stu! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Did you notice that in all that time it took to make that second fiddle yard / ladder / book case (Delete a appropriate) the sand paper block never moved! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 3, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 3, 2012 Any more joy on the brakegear for the 1/434 diagram Plates, Mark? TBH they have been pushed down the to do list by the more urgent need for bolsters (the Plates being passing traffic while the Bolsters are the bread and butter of our yard). So, other than cutting off a few of the door hinges ready to replace them, I've not done anything else on them for a while. As a result I've not yet followed up on James' suggestion of the Ambis range; might end up being something else to look at getting etched! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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