RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2013 Just another thought, I seem to remember that many had a serial number, usually on the bottom rail opposite the name on the top rail. Yes - for poster space reservation, so the billstickers knew what went where. Deb worked for British Transport Advertising in the '70s, running their OATS system - TOPS for billboards if you like - which did that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Must of missed a bit somewhere, but wasn't there going to be a road going past Sandside's cart shed, over a level crossing, then a bridge over the railway? Has this been removed, or is it going to be done in a later version? Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2013 A few pics of the billboards, showing various adverts. Note, the name tags and board index numbers have not yet been added (the level of detail expected is astounding.. ) 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R A Watson Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Don't want to be thought a spoilsport,but the empty one is my favourite Wonderful detail on the ripped remaining paper. Wally 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2013 Don't want to be thought a spoilsport,but the empty one is my favourite Wonderful detail on the ripped remaining paper. Wally (It's a Scalescenes image, from the Arch bridge kit...) Oh, thanks very much - took ages to do that one... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2013 Dave, 10 BCB points for paying attention. Yes, there was going to be a bridge and road but for the first show(s) it will be missing in action. There will still be a track up to Sandside's cartshed but for now that will be curtailed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2013 Agree that it doesn't quite look right. Cutting.png Looking at the edited picture above, the black line would be the contour, so possibly make the ground higher behind the portal? Adding a wing wall of the same style would fit in. If the tunnel was there first, then the tunnel wing would be the shape it is, and the cutting for the industrial line would be the shape it is. Else, how easy to reverse the curve of the tunnel portal? Having chatted it over we're going to add some retaining walls either side of the industrial line. That should sort it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2013 Just need a brewery dray for the pub now and blokes throwing barrels down the steps! (must make more roads) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 11.45am and all 5 scenic boards up and being worked on at Counter Print in Stafford for the working weekend. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2013 Wow !! Looking really good so far !! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Damn, now you tell us Chris!!! Andy York busy browning the whiteness Old Gringo hard at work weathering rails 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2013 Is that standard Southern green paint ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 You mean Maggotsh*t green Stubby? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2013 The detail work at the top of the wall (is it a cornice?) how have you made them? Thanks See the picture. It is just stepped out layers of bricks, so, It is just a layer of brick plasticard 3 brick rows in height overlayed with one two rows high followed by 1 at 1 row high. The only complication is that the window lintle kicks in at the 2nd layer so I had to put the lintle in place and then with more plasticard back fill the top of the window recess. I tried it in place today now that ive seen the boards. The building sits lower than the road. The idea is that first there was a road then a canal with a hump back bridge. They built a pub alongside the canal but then the railway arrived on a higher level which necesitated the building of a new canal bridge built higher to match the railway thus leaving the pub lower than the road. Andy 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 The Barry Bucknall's of scenic modelling.............looking good, though! Best, Pete. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2013 Damn, now you tell us Chris!!! IMG_2425.JPG Andy York busy browning the whiteness [img=http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gif] IMG_2426.JPG Old Gringo hard at work weathering rails Looks like Andy's singing while he paints and John can't stand the noise ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Lighting and facia supports being fitted 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Canals were also at the front of the modelling queue for me today. This is a Joey, pretty well unique to Birmingham and the Black Country. Built in there thosands, often no cabin,certainly no overnight accomodation and nowhere for a steerer to stand except in with the cargo. most were double ended, you switch the rudder depending on direction. They could have been a single boat with a horse and one boat man ( Man stands on the towpath to encourage the horse and operate the lock gear - steering is via a long boat pole / hook) or pulled in trains by a short powerful tug boat. A joey steerer may huddle in the coal with a small brazier to keep him warm This is in its ex works livery and needs distressing. These boats were treated with the respect you would give to a skip. I need a bit of colour either side of the bow to indicate ownership and maybe a fleet number. Their principle cargo was coal or maybe waste / salvage. Similar boats to a higher spec were built by the LMS and later became live aboard butties once ownership was transfered to Britsh Waterways in the 1950's boat jan 2013 001 v2.jpg Your description isnt really correct. There were around 13000 day (Also known as "Joey") on the BCN at the peak, both of wooden or iron construction. Many were double ended with provision to hang the "ellum" (rudder) from either end, all were fitted with steerers platforms. Some would have a bulkhead between the cargo and the steerer. the single ended boats tended to run longer distances and could have quite a shpely bow. Approx 50% of the boats had some sort of cabin, all these had a stove with some sort of bench seating, the odd few had cupboards and bed provision. There were many distinct types, Bantocks built three distinctive types, the early being single ended wooden bottom and composte sides (wood and iron) with a shapely bow, the next roughly the same baut all iron, the latter more functional. Hickmans built a very rudimentary boat double ended, then Harris of Netherton built very cheap boats using second hand plate often sporting filled in portholes. The LMS has shapely boats built by Yarwoods for interchange traffics whilst the GWR used a fleet shared with Bantocks. the wooden boats were also highly distinctive, those from the massive fleets of Yates (400+) being sub leased to other firms but with distictive carvings denoting their origin in the breastoak. Ernie Thomas boats were the same. When towing in the main the mast was "stepped" to one side to assist the steering unlike conventional boats which had upright masts. The livery and style of decoration was completely different to the main canal system, quite how this came to be is a mystery but boats were painted in a manner more reflecting mediterraen styles. The cargo could be anything, coal was a main cargo but the boats carried anything that needed to be moved, from liquids to pottery. On the 473ft level some boats were built in excess of normal dimensions being up to 85ft long and over 8ft wide, these were known as "Hampton" boats and moved coal from the Cannock coalfields. The boats were treated as such, not as skips and docked regulary, they had a rough life but needed to be efficent and functional. It is a pity that many railway modellers ruin their layouts with ill presented canal scenes, the canals and the boats were a as precise in detail as any loco or region, the day boat is unique in that there were so many they often would be disposed of into maintenance use and as such can appear a long way from home, it is not unusual to see one in grand junction canal pictures in the London area or on the Thames. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Mark bedding in the resin castings for the canal bank 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Backscene has been discussed extensively chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Gap for backscene 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 17.15 - finished for the day. Fascia/lighting unit supports fitted and fascia and lighting units trial fitted and adjusted for length. All white bits of scenics now browned. Canal locks packed to height. Canal towpath and bank sides fitted Rails painted where needed. More ballasting done to fill gaps. Lots of measuring. Some wiring done off board. Signal box base let into embankment. And more...... Back tomorrow at 10am 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Lighting and facia supports being fitted IMG_2431.JPG aka bollock grabber as it was a bit tight for space with bodies moving around. I'm mightily impressed with Damian's structural engineering for the lighting and fascia rig; intelligent design! Chris; the green stuff on the tunnel board is great with just the right level of patchiness and variation; I'll look forward to seeing it continue into the valley. I've decided to pinch a bit more garden for the canal cottages and run the garden/pig pen up to the board joint. Right, time to get cracking with the water tomorrow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 the worst thing in my eye is the downspouts, Ratio's finest, which are crying out for something a little less heavy-duty! I now realise (having studied some properties of similar vintage today) these are the soil pipes on the fret rather than downspouts. To be replaced in due course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2013 I now realise (having studied some properties of similar vintage today) these are the soil pipes on the fret rather than downspouts. To be replaced in due course. I suspect Stu's hand in there somewhere. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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