RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2013 Do we really think track maintenance standards, as applied to sidings and freight-only lines, really dropped significantly in those 10 years? If you make 'em look unloved and careworn, they would still be right for 1965, and probably a while before that. Only the level of vegetation might be different. Coat 'em in black and greasy grey, and they'll look fine. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2013 Andy, Great photo of your cottages ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 A crowbar works well on Fords (so I'm told)...... Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2013 I did take this photo of Andy's cottages too, but it seems someone's bridge got in the way... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2013 At the risk of wandering into a completely different topic area, lines carrying heavyweight steel traffic and modern tank wagons were kept in pretty good order. A lot of them were upgraded to 22 1/2 ton or 25 ton axle loads in the late 1960s and 1970s. Looking back about 6 months I posted some stuff from 1982 starting here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/57246-black-country-blues-rolling-stock-workbench/?p=748725 showing the line from Kingswinford Junction South to Wednesbury. There are no weeds on the running lines or well used sidings. Incidentally a DE2 is lurking in the background on a couple of the shots at Round Oak. Based on these shots and more posted by others I would go for minimal vegetation on the main lines and odd weeds between the sidings. Some of the stuff used for ballast or deposited as industrial fallout was pretty toxic, even to weeds. Depending on the season, at times there would be a lot of willow herb on the banks. I can't remember when the ragwort plague took hold but that seems to have become much worse in recent years. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2013 Andy, do you want me to put a hill under the cottages? people seem to be 'accidentally' missing them! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted February 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2013 I've just had a flashback from the end of Saturday's drinking session. Anyone remember the conversation about the alternative Thomas The Take Engine layout, where they all run tender / bunker first? :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2013 No, I must have left by then ( luckily !). Would all the coaches and troublesome trucks also have run backwards ? Where would Cranky's face be ? Would Bertie look like the back end of a bus ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 No ta, I'll bide my time until OG has got the back of the bridge done and the canal's finished and the cottages can then have their moment of glory as the DE2 is seen in a photo heading out of the sidings towering above the rooftop. I like stuff that's hidden but the chimney pots need beefing up if that's all folk are going to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted February 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2013 Not faces Stu, they're running backwards 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted February 15, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2013 Not faces Stu, they're running backwards Nope. you must have been on a different night out ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2013 Would those chimney pots also need TV aerials (and maybe a Ham radio aerial too ) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Yup, I've been looking for some snaps of early colour aerials to point one towards Sutton Coldfield and a B/W H-aerial next door maybe with associated cable dangling down to the lounge. Not so sure about the ham radio as the inhabitants probably aren't much for communication with anyone past West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2013 Not faces Stu, they're running backwards But what are they showing instead? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Yup, I've been looking for some snaps of early colour aerials to point one towards Sutton Coldfield and a B/W H-aerial next door maybe with associated cable dangling down to the lounge. Not so sure about the ham radio as the inhabitants probably aren't much for communication with anyone past West Brom. That's true enough. I recall, when teaching in Wednesbury in the late 70s, I taught some 4th formers (now Y10), who had never been to Birmingham, and the suggestion that they may look for jobs in Walsall, just the other side of the M5, was greeted with abject horror. The Black Country has always been a group of industrial villages. I would argue that Tipton is / was probably the most extreme, with the 'Lost City'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Just have to make sure that whatever you add aerialwise can backdate to the 60's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Well that would be a nice set of buffers..... oh wait, I think something else was in sandside's mind! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Some vegetation would be good in the sidings, but beware where the shunter would walk, that would be nicely clear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Now that boot open is just going to encourage it to sink in the canal! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2013 My recollection of aerials in them thar days (the '60s) is that the Beeb aerial would be either an H or an X, while the ITV aerial would be a horizontal wiggly wirey thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Cook Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Yup, I've been looking for some snaps of early colour aerials to point one towards Sutton Coldfield and a B/W H-aerial next door maybe Piture of early 1950/60 band 1 and 3 vhf 405 line service Earlier aerials would have the X replaced with an H, a single dipole and reflector Vhf 405 lines services ceased around 1985 edit uhf changed to vhf, oops 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Might be of use: http://www.sub-tv.co.uk/fieldaerials.asp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I would argue that Tipton is / was probably the most extreme, with the 'Lost City'. Yes; if any visitor should think the 'oss and cart is anachronistic they should be advised that it's suitable for any layout through to the current day although it's under threat and again portrays a BC tradition. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047839/Plague-pet-horses-Bailiffs-town-people-kept-ponies-gardens.html http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2011/07/30/protest-trots-along-causing-long-tipton-tailbacks/ http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2011/10/22/horse-protest-taken-to-sandwell-council-bosses/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Colour TV started in 1967 see http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/3/newsid_2514000/2514719.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Yes; if any visitor should think the 'oss and cart is anachronistic they should be advised that it's suitable for any layout through to the current day although it's under threat and again portrays a BC tradition. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047839/Plague-pet-horses-Bailiffs-town-people-kept-ponies-gardens.html http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2011/07/30/protest-trots-along-causing-long-tipton-tailbacks/ http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2011/10/22/horse-protest-taken-to-sandwell-council-bosses/ There were several occasions when I was teaching at Willingsworth High, when I would turn up on a Monday morning and find horses tethered on the playing field. You will often see a pony and trap riding around the area. They go at a fair lick as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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