RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2013 To represent swarf I would suggest teasing out small pieces of wire wool. Easy to 'rust' as well by dipping it in water, but don't do as I did and forget about it. I came back a week later to find a rusty brown sludge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.B Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 After further reading of this thread on commercial vehicles/cars from the BC area,.....I feel I must say Paul has done a superb job with the vehicles so far as have other conbributors. The AEC flatbed with the stillages as someone pointed out `so Black country' remember many wagons like that about. got me remembering some old company names from around the area such as Heat Treatment works!!.....there were at least two I can remember in Kingswinford area that had their own vehicles which could be seen all round areas different companies/factories. Places such as `Specialized Heat Treatments' Dawley Brook Kingswinford, had black rigid twin rear axle dropside Albion/ Leyland, AEC dropsides. Continuous Heat Treatments, Ham Lane Kingwinford, had similar trucks but in yellow with black lettering. Wedge group of companies with green wagons,....Willenhall way I think. Coming back to those great stillages on the AEC flatbed, someone mentioned names stenciled on to vehicles, was also a `done thing' on some manufacturers stillages,.....seem to remember seeing a lot with parsons chain company from stourport on a lot of them, and also green ones with `Jaguar' on as well. Seeing the red HA Van, I seem to recall many small,....maybe HA/Escort vans, but mostly the Mk1 Transit vans in `Vestric' red livery.....apparently they supplied chemists. Also there used to be a lot of GUY big J4s in `pale blue' British Steel Corporation livery that seemed to get everywhere with shortlength tandem axle trailers built to carry steel coil. Another company that came to mind is `Kwikform' scaffolding. There was other haulage companies such as `Hortons' `Dawley Brook Papers' (D-W-P) limited, Hudsons of Dudley scrap merchants, Hulbert crane group of Dudley. Used to remember a wagon that was always parked round the corner from my parents house as well, `Elwell steel sections from West Brom. The scrap yard idea sounds really good, was certainly many around all over the area,....don't forget an Iron Fairy crane seemed to be hundreds around that time in the area or you'd be struck behind one on the road `bouncing' all over the place, lol There also seemed to be alot of scrap yards with old green `Hymac' 360 excavators fitted with `magnets' or `grapples' knocking about. Also, remember alot of William Press light tan colour transit vans aroung towing mobile air compressor units etc....think they did alot of Gas Utility work in the area at the time. Sorry, if this sounds `exhaustive' but is just some `food for thought' that would certainly give the layout that little extra identity. Cheers. Rich. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Thanks John, plenty to do there ! What about fabricated things, given that the works is semi-urban, semi-rural and next to a canal, what would be made ? Something that'll get out of the doors. Determined by the entrances. This sort of place is goign to be a jobbing type of shop, bidding for what they can get, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Something that'll get out of the doors. Determined by the entrances. This sort of place is goign to be a jobbing type of shop, bidding for what they can get, I think. I am guessing we are a decade too early for stuff like roller shutter doors and associated ironwork ? Great work Stubby47 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R A Watson Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Having dealt earlier with the requirements for the construction of the fire escape, don't forget the accumulation of old pallets, boxes, tarpaulins etc that "nobody" has gradually put under there over the years. Wally 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2013 They could be making items for BR such as relay cabinets and other steel fabrications. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) And whatever is being made, some in primer, some finished. [Edit] and it would probably have been red primer. Edited January 14, 2013 by Coombe Barton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2013 Was there any lorries fitted with 'Hymac' cranes or similar in the 70's? The reason I am asking is that Stubby is asking for suggestions for what his factory could be making and I suggested BR relay cabinets, such items would possibly be carried on vehicles so equipped for unloading on site. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Also there used to be a lot of GUY big J4s in `pale blue' British Steel Corporation livery that seemed to get everywhere with shortlength tandem axle trailers built to carry steel coil. Rich. Probably operating out of the hot strip mill at Shotton, something like this Rich; A GUY Big J4T, with a tri-axle, coil carrying trailer, on super single tyres, in front of the Shotton blast furnaces. Undated, but definitely 1970's as the blast furnaces closed in 1979. Shotton had a much higher reliance on road transport for its deliveries than any of the other strip mills, and had traditionally had a large customer base in the west midlands area. Arthur 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2013 They could be making and/or repairing stillages for other manufacturers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adam Posted January 14, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Just in case anyone's interested (and because I can't find the original thread), here's a shot of dad's model. The sharpness of the paint job is not matched by the sharpness of the picture unfortunately! He still hasn't got around to weathering it so far as I'm aware. Adam Edited January 14, 2013 by Adam 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2013 Thanks gents !! Lots to do now. I've got some stuff already for under the fire escape, and to be 'lost' in the corners, so all the suggested items can be stacked in the middle, to be knocked over by the fork-lift ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
28XX Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Was there any lorries fitted with 'Hymac' cranes or similar in the 70's? The reason I am asking is that Stubby is asking for suggestions for what his factory could be making and I suggested BR relay cabinets, such items would possibly be carried on vehicles so equipped for unloading on site. I think that the relay cabinets (location cabinets) were made by the signalling contractors such as Westinghouse, Tyers and SGE. I suppose they could have subbed out to Millwards, but I bet someone knows. Eric?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Was there any lorries fitted with 'Hymac' cranes or similar in the 70's? The reason I am asking is that Stubby is asking for suggestions for what his factory could be making and I suggested BR relay cabinets, such items would possibly be carried on vehicles so equipped for unloading on site. I don't remember who made them back in the 70s. But the system was to have bulk deliveries to the large S&T stores, like the one at Gresty Rd. Crewe. From there each S&T depot would order how many they needed for collection, I used to go once a week back in the mid 80s. They were then prefabricated with fittings and wiring at the depot, ready to go out to the job. Very rarely did you take an empty loc. to site and wire it in the rain. So for collection from the manufacturer would be a full load on an artic, and delivery to site, my little yellow lorry with a trolley and half a dozen men. Merf. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) A couple of quick piccies of the general state of play, plus one of a few of the 'somethings' awaiting painting. Edit : And the obligatory one of the loo.... plus the 'new' fence. Edited January 14, 2013 by Stubby47 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Just hope that Spams doesn't want you to shorten the doors! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2013 I hope not, but the ground level has not been specificed, other than it drops from right to left. As long as the gateway matches the road/pavement height, the other two doors can be on steps if necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hymek2 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Come on guys.... how does a "boat" like that appear in the middle of this lot without a description of how it was made? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2013 Gosh, you can see that coming! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Gosh, you can see that coming! And going... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2013 Is it too late to loose the triangular wingwalls on the sides? More like this then...... (I really must tidy the workbench..) 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) You might need drain holes near the bottom of the wall to let water escape. Edied due to extremely poor grammar. Edited January 14, 2013 by Stubby47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 A few hours over the weekend has seen the stonework that sits behind the lock gates and the stone coping for the top of the locks added 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2013 Come on guys.... how does a "boat" like that appear in the middle of this lot without a description of how it was made? Ahh... I haven't taken an pics on the way, it has always been a falll back job when making the viaduct or the skew bridge. It is straight forward plasticard and Evergreen strip in construction with some detail and rivits added using aluminium tape - see the section on the viaduct and other structures. I will detail the bow / stern co9nstruction at a point. There is a bit worth mentioning about calculating the diameter of curves. Sorry again, the deadline is approaching fast and there is a lot on the teams collective plate Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2013 Oh this is good stuff, Stu. The overview shot is great, and those "somethings" already look convincing.I look at your work and immediately feel an urge to go and paint graffitti somewhere on my Edwardian buildings :-) I think I'll go elsewhere when I need the loo :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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