RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 14, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2012 How wide is the pavement in front? As long as the toilet block is not in line with the gate and the lorry brakes are OK you should have nothing to worry about. Pavement width is down to Spams. The gentlemen's rest room will be at the other end of Warner & Cholmondy's building, end on to the canal, to show off all the detail... As for backing the lorry inside, I still need a method of getting those stillages on & off the flat bed. I thought about an A frame on wheels, but maybe not on the cobbles, so a forklift of suitable vintage might be the best option. Quite happy to scratch build this if pictures can be found. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2012 Stu, I have one of the Base forklifts, I'll get it detailed and weathered. I think with such a small yard the lorry would be parked on the road/pavement and the forklift trundling in and out to load/unload. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2012 Mine hasn't got any mirrors. Mine didn't but it does now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2012 Stu, I have one of the Base forklifts, I'll get it detailed and weathered. I think with such a small yard the lorry would be parked on the road/pavement and the forklift trundling in and out to load/unload. Brilliant, Paul, thanks ! As a general question, are we peopling (?) our own areas, or will the be a major influx of residents once all the scenery is in place ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2012 The wall is done ! Due to the need for the gentlemen's rest room to be added at the eastern end of the main building, there is only room for 3 arched windows, but that should be enough to give the signature look of the original. It's used 6 different styles of scribed plasticard, and a smear of filler - piccys tomorrow in the daylight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2012 There has been a bit of progress but it also leads to question time for the BCB crew, mainly Chris as he'll be the one planting the building. As you can see, the main walls of the cart shed are now glued together (don't fret, more weathering will be performed on the walls ) but before I can add the end of the open section, I need to trim and add the ground. The building is built to sit on a 10mm deep foundation and as such, the ground slots into this so to get the short stubby wall in for the open section, I have to lay the ground section first and then slot it into place. And so to the question: If I leave the ground as a square (as it is in the shots), will that be fine for you to bed in and add any walls around it (I can provide the walls) as it strikes me that if I extend it out to the front and add boundary walls, then I may inavertantly dictate the exact orientation of where the building will sit. On the left hand side, I have cut the current ground section with the addition of a wall in mind, so that it would butt up against the end of the open section and run parallel to the outhouse section but then again, if I only make the wall as long as the ground section then once again, am I dictating the size and orientation of the yard and building? Sorry to be a pain in the proverbial but I want this to be right 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2012 "the short stubby wall" Am I getting picked on again ? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2012 "the short stubby wall" Am I getting picked on again ? No, there's no toilet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 "- piccys tomorrow in the daylight." Why not in the light from the Midnight Candle which you were burning? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2012 "- piccys tomorrow in the daylight." Why not in the light from the Midnight Candle which you were burning? Because it gives a funny yellow tinge... Just off to give the wall a base coat of red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2012 The wall, in all it's naked glory... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2012 Will get back to you Jason. Currently on a pub crawl as it's my dad's 80th. Any answer I give now might be dodgy... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 .... Any answer I give now might be dodgy... So what's the difference from normal? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaternosterRow Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) Just found "The relationship between agricultural development and industrial growth 1660-1880: a case study of the Black Country - an MPhil; thesis from Birmingham University http://etheses.bham.ac.uk/3030/ Looks at historical developments Quite an interesting read. Throwing a bit of fuel on the fire regarding the debate about where the Black Country begins and ends, I noticed that on page 4 of Stuart Russell's thesis he quotes Elihu Burritt who, in 1869, wrote that the Black Country is a circle of 20 miles in radius of Birmingham Town Hall. I grew up in Perry Barr (3 miles North of the Town Hall), so does that make me a solid Black Country lad or must I still be considered a mere Brummie? Edited December 15, 2012 by PaternosterRow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I noticed that on page 4 of Stuart Russell's thesis he quotes Elihu Burritt who, in 1869, wrote that the Black Country is a circle of 20 miles in radius of Birmingham Town Hall. I grew up in Perry Barr (3 miles North of the Town Hall), so does that make me a solid Black Country lad or must I still be considered a mere Brummie? It seems uncorroborated facts pre-dated Wikipedia then. You'll certainly be more Brummie than Yam-Yam in Perry Barr! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi Phil Just hack about some Corgi ones - be warned though, it can get a bit addictive! Also as mentioned earlier, a brummy fleetline from the Britbus Atlantean Cheers Jim I didn't fancy the idea of hacking the Corgi Transit but it looks like I may have too. I attended the Brentwood swap meet today and obtained an example of the Oxford model only to find that it is really bad. The bonnet and front wings are OK but the cab looks nothing like a Transit, on the model the rear corners of the roof curve down to the B pillar which itself slants forward and the cab is too short and the doors have a distinct curve to the top. The good things are the wheels and the interior which are very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi Phil you dont have any pics of it do you? Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi Phil you dont have any pics of it do you? Cheers Jim Not any that show the errors, I don't have any means of photographing the one that I have. I have also noticed that the glazing appears distorted, perhaps I have a 'duff' one. I also obtained other of the new releases by Oxford, I'll pop a review in the road vehicles sub forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Ah but in my family (Stourbridge,brierly hill,wordsley,kingswinford) were black country but not yamyams! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2012 As a general question, are we peopling (?) our own areas, or will the be a major influx of residents once all the scenery is in place ? Does this mean a large number of ethnic takeaways appearing on the layout? As per the '70s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2012 I've not updated this thread for a while. Here are a couple of photos grabbed in a (rare) bit of sunlight this morning: 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinWalsh Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Does this mean a large number of ethnic takeaways appearing on the layout? As per the '70s Aroma provided by the operating crew on the sunday, after saturday night's frivolities 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2012 So, back to the lorries... I've made good progress on the Ford, it's had mirrors and been weathered, it looks a bit old and grubby, I'm going to try and dent and rust the front bumper a bit, it will get wipers when the glazing is re fitted. I also added the FORD to the front grille using transfers from an LNER wagons sheet. Next in line is a Bedford HA van, this is a resin and whitemetal kit that Mark had started, don't know whose kit, it's quite a good kit with some excellent etched details, the only problem is the chassis casting seemed to be a little short, a bit of tweaking and moving the rear wheels back a bit and it seems ok. It's painted red but it won't be a Royal Mail van, wanting to keep away from that cliché. At the same time I'm on with a Leyland FG, a Base model, probably one of the ugliest lorries ever produced... (needs that roof sorting) 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Good work, Stu. You'll have fun weathering that bog........................Blocked this time? Best, Pete. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 it looks a bit old and grubby, How very apt. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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