Andy Y Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 That's my opinion and I must admit Andy's pics paired like that did give me a fun little opportunity but I think the point is there - it looks really good (not that I have seen it 'in the flesh' recently) so why not run it to match its look? Now for all I know you might do exactly that and the photographic set-up was an 'unforeseen incident. but having got trains crossing properly at Treneglos it could be done on BCB too I'm sure (hints & tips available at no charge). I can assure you that such incidents wouldn't have taken place during normal operation. The railway had temporarily come under the control of the photographer calling for certain trains to be brought to certain points as I was working as quickly as possible to try and bag a selection of shots under severe time pressure before the show opened. In isolation there's nothing wrong in either image but having placed them together to make a certain point I can understand why you may think the model was being operated in such a slapdash fashion under the command of an amateur. I wish I'd never shown the two consecutively so you could see what we get up to when trained eyes are not watching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Thanks both for clearing that up, that is definitely something which we can train out to the operating team and include in the operating sequence. I have to take responsibility for dodgy moves in the photos since I think I was driving both trains and acting as signalman at the time! Definite conflict of interests there, Mark.. Apart from that, how can the driver moan about the bobby, if they're the same person? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2013 I can assure you that such incidents wouldn't have taken place during normal operation. The railway had temporarily come under the control of the photographer calling for certain trains to be brought to certain points as I was working as quickly as possible to try and bag a selection of shots under severe time pressure before the show opened. In isolation there's nothing wrong in either image but having placed them together to make a certain point I can understand why you may think the model was being operated in such a slapdash fashion under the command of an amateur. I wish I'd never shown the two consecutively so you could see what we get up to when trained eyes are not watching. But despite all that, there's been a learning point for the team. We had a similar experience on Treneglos regarding how two trains on a single line enter a passing loop. It's good that this knowledge isn't lost, otherwise we'd just end up 'playing trains'! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2013 Definite conflict of interests there, Mark.. Apart from that, how can the driver moan about the bobby, if they're the same person? I'm thinking that a disciplinary is needed for the driver/signalman - more beer in plastic glasses for the team perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2013 I can assure you that such incidents wouldn't have taken place during normal operation.Phew, sounds like on the whole we got away with it! I wish I'd never shown the two consecutively so you could see what we get up to when trained eyes are not watching. On the contrary; I'm glad you did it was a learning point for me and presumably one or two others reading this. I'm thinking that a disciplinary is needed for the driver/signalman - more beer in plastic glasses for the team perhaps.Even I would draw a line at beer at 08:30 on a Sunday. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted October 22, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2013 Phew, sounds like on the whole we got away with it! On the contrary; I'm glad you did it was a learning point for me and presumably one or two others reading this. Even I would draw a line at beer at 08:30 on a Sunday. 08:45 - we were clear though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debs. Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 The first BCB 'Form-1' beckons! I'm thinking that a disciplinary is needed for the driver/signalman......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2013 The first BCB 'Form-1' beckons! I have no doubt it will be the first of many...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2013 I have no doubt it will be the first of many......before the rmweb judge and jury passes sentence i' d like a number of other offences to be taken into consideration. andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2013 The new signal will be made from brass bar rather than a flimsy white metal casting, so that loco's on steriods will do it no harm, hopefully FWIW, the bogies on the Class 24s and 25s (which were, I think, the first to catch it) measure 34mm over the widest point (sandboxes); I've checked these against two different scale drawings, one of which agrees with the 34mm dimension the other (which shows the earlier pattern sandboxes fitted to some of these) suggests a width of 33mm. Above a height of approx 16mm above rail head the width increases to 37.4mm over the cab handrails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2013 (edit: replying to Nigel in post 388): Ta, so are we saying we should have brought the 24 to a halt at the signal befor ..e we let the 20s out if the yard? The 24 had been accepted under Reg 5. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2013 But despite all that, there's been a learning point for the team. We had a similar experience on Treneglos regarding how two trains on a single line enter a passing loop. It's good that this knowledge isn't lost, otherwise we'd just end up 'playing trains'! I hope it has helped in exactly that way - that was my whole point although we followed an interesting route getting there. But if you have a railway that looks that good I'm sure it will attract the attention of those with a railway interest - possibly even from their past working lives and they will be even more impressed if you get right little touches such as that. Work that into your sequence and those without the knowledge might learn, but those who have it or recall it will have have even more respect for the layout. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 You know, when you get specialists arguing about the exact interpretation of the rules and signal positions to the millimetre you know that there's a darned good layout that they're arguing about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2013 I can assure you that such incidents wouldn't have taken place during normal operation. The railway had temporarily come under the control of the photographer calling for certain trains to be brought to certain points as I was working as quickly as possible to try and bag a selection of shots under severe time pressure before the show opened. In isolation there's nothing wrong in either image but having placed them together to make a certain point I can understand why you may think the model was being operated in such a slapdash fashion under the command of an amateur. I wish I'd never shown the two consecutively so you could see what we get up to when trained eyes are not watching. I remember doing some very strange moves on the DC Lines whilst assisting with making a TV documentary about Automatic Train Control in 1990. Fortunately they cut the bit of my finger moving the permissible speed indicator needle as we passed the single yellow from the transmitted version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 You know, when you get specialists arguing about the exact interpretation of the rules and signal positions to the millimetre you know that there's a darned good layout that they're arguing about. Totally agree and what you say sums up the skill of the team involved with the creation of BCB and how it looks and works. All this and BCB ain't even fully finished and tweaked up yet. so watch out folks BCB is coming and you ain`t seen nothing yet 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2013 otherwise we'd just end up 'playing trains'! I thought that was the whole point of the hobby, or am I doing something wrong? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I have no doubt it will be the first of many...... before the rmweb judge and jury passes sentence i' d like a number of other offences to be taken into consideration. I try to take the blame for the incident to uphold the good name of the team and in the meantime I find I'm shielding serial criminals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanj666 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I went to the peterborough show last weekend and saw BCB. It's an amzingly well built layout. The scenery was wonderful and the muted tones of that background ... Well done to all who made this very special layout. best in show IMHO. Anthony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2013 Sound like somebody needs to write some local 'box instructions for the one controlling BCB.... Come to think of it, I have not seen any photos of passenger trains on BCB (are there any?), so is it a freight line operating under Permissive Block regulations...? Ducks and runs for hat and coat! I'm sure at some point there will be a steam tour special hauled by a Spamcan but I believe the line is modelled as a freight only in this period. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Sound like somebody needs to write some local 'box instructions for the one controlling BCB.... Come to think of it, I have not seen any photos of passenger trains on BCB (are there any?), so is it a freight line operating under Permissive Block regulations...? Ducks and runs for hat and coat! It is indeed currently modelled as a secondary route for freight (and parcels) only I'm sure at some point there will be a steam tour special hauled by a Spamcan but I believe the line is modelled as a fright only in this period. Now there's an idea for Halloween! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 It seems that the Leicestershire strategic reserve of Spamcans need narrow gauge track so it looks like Darlo is safe for now. Previous outings have shown how good it looks with a dirty 8F on it; maybe we could rustle something up for the end of the day at a yet to be announced date for the layout? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted October 23, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2013 It seems that the Leicestershire strategic reserve of Spamcans need narrow gauge track so it looks like Darlo is safe for now. Previous outings have shown how good it looks with a dirty 8F on it; maybe we could rustle something up for the end of the day at a yet to be announced date for the layout? Defo dirty !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2013 It seems that the Leicestershire strategic reserve of Spamcans need narrow gauge track so it looks like Darlo is safe for now. Previous outings have shown how good it looks with a dirty 8F on it; maybe we could rustle something up for the end of the day at a yet to be announced date for the layout? There was a time when folk thought Daleks couldn't cope with stairs and look what happened there - they evolved jet packs. In much the same way I am selecting members of the Leicestershire Spamcan Strategic Reserve to widen their outlook on life (gauge). Soon no layout will be safe (maniacal laugh) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2013 Defo dirty !! I see a topic reset on the horizon - just needs baps to be mentioned.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I see a topic reset on the horizon - just needs baps to be mentioned.... Bingo! You've already done it.... Just as long as no one mentions anything along the lines of a receptacle for pouring gravy out of.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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