N15class Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Looks like the belpaire rebuilt version of the 3130 I am building. But when you look through the Midland book there are hundreds of them. Edited October 14, 2013 by N15class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Looks like l have to strip the whole thing down now that l have started.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenashton Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Looks like l have to strip the whole thing down now that l have started.. George - It looks like you are doing a superb job of breathing life back into this model. It's fascinating to see how resilient the brass is. Seems as if you'd have to work really hard to ruin a model so badly that it cannot be rescued! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaScala Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Great work George. Are those spectacle frames etched or did you cut them? They look very good either way. I'm about to do them on my LNER D9 and don't know whether to use fuse wire and flatten it after soldering or fretting/cutting 5" brass. As a sometime scratchbuilder yourself, what do you reckon? Edited October 15, 2013 by LaScala Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hello Steve, To be honest the kit was put together fairly well, but there were lot's of gaps in the solder, and l just could not clean it up good enough for the new solder to take, so l decided to blow it all apart, initially l thought god what a mess, but a small wire brush, lot's of heat and a good fibre pen and different grade's of wet'n'dry paper's have given me the required finish. still have a lot of cleaning to do, but l think it will be worth in the end ? George. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hello LaScala, The window surrounds were on a fret l found in the box, but l do a lot of scratch building as you say and l normally use brass rod of the correct size and bend to shape, then with my dremel l grind the window frames flat, (never tried fuse wire) hope this helps.... George. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted October 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hello Steve, To be honest the kit was put together fairly well, but there were lot's of gaps in the solder, and l just could not clean it up good enough for the new solder to take, so l decided to blow it all apart, initially l thought god what a mess, but a small wire brush, lot's of heat and a good fibre pen and different grade's of wet'n'dry paper's have given me the required finish. still have a lot of cleaning to do, but l think it will be worth in the end ? George. It will be well worth it George, get it all back to clean bare metal and start again. Sounds tedious but much easier in the long run. Its impossible to fix an old, poor solder joint thats got mucky and corroded. And your new soldering looks very neat and precise. Cheers, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenashton Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 ... l think it will be worth in the end ? Based on these photos: yes and yes, again. It's looking much, much better ... watching with interest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev_Lewis Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Nice work George. I have to echo Dave, very tidy soldering indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hello Dave, Stephen, Peter & Kev, Thanks for all your comments lads, judging by the number of likes l have had over the restoration of my loco l will keep the photos coming, did a bit more this afternoon, the details on the firebox were already done, there are a few missing parts so l will have to scratch those.... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Looking 'stella George, there's something very aesthetically pleasing about a clean brass loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaScala Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hello LaScala, The window surrounds were on a fret l found in the box, but l do a lot of scratch building as you say and l normally use brass rod of the correct size and bend to shape, then with my dremel l grind the window frames flat, (never tried fuse wire) hope this helps.... George. Thanks. I assume you anneal the rod first to prevent it breaking as it is bent to the sharp radius needed? I have some 0.8mm rod that looks promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY NORWOOD Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hi George I love your work on this loco and all your locos, you seemed to work very quickly. Keep up the good work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hello Ray, Thanks for dropping in again, l'm on a weeks holiday so l can get things moving 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY NORWOOD Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) George She is looking fantastic. There is something about Model Locos just in brass before the paint goes on. Keep the pics coming George. Edited October 16, 2013 by RAY NORWOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hi George, I haven't been in here for a while and I forgotten just how busy you have been re building all these wonderful little engines. The pics are superb and are a great step by step of both your problems and more importantly how you have overcome the issues you have inherited. Keep it all coming mate. :locomotive: Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 That's a very nice looking engine George and no doubt very satisfying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Hello Rob, Ray & Andy, Welcome back, yes l am very pleased with the way she turned out, quite a bit of work but well worth it l think, just been talking to Andrew P (Bodgit) and he tells me it pouring down in Derbyshire so l thought l'd get out and get the primer on before it rains in Manchester. Next l have to sort the chassis out, l have ruined two driving wheels trying to get them off their axles as they were rusted up solid, the tender wheels were not so bad, have got a nice canon motor in the drawer somewhere that will suit she a treat.. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev_Lewis Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Cracking work, George. Will this one be BR black too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Good Evening Kev, Thanks for the kind words, and yes it will be 58148 un-lined BR Black with 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' on the tender, as it has a beading down the middle of the tender which would spoil the BR badge, l don't know how they over come this problem in the real world ? all the photos l can find don't have anything there... George. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) That looks lovely George, nice finish, which paint have you used, is it Air Brushed or Rattle Can as you did before? Bodgit Edited October 17, 2013 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev_Lewis Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Just giving credit where it's due. With regards to the placing of the BR emblem, I had a look on the Just Like The Real Thing website as they now sell the Chowbent kits. On the models built for Mr Waterman the emblem is placed behind the beading. Photo copyright JLTRT. Not the best way to research, but I'm assuming that models built by the pro's would be accurate. Hope this helps. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Very good George. Looks like I have a wait to see it finished then. The 2Fs were lovely locos, but I really do not like the style of Deely cabs. My 2f succumbed to a deely smoke box door and chimney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 Hello Peter, Well the box says its a Deeley 2f 0-6-0 tender loco '58148' (22968) but my spotter's book from 1949 says its a Johnson build no mention of deeley anywhere ? Puzzled GT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I think originally it would of looked similar to the 3130 I am building. Then Deeley put those standard sort of cabs on some of the belpeire fitted ones, a similar cabe to the 3 and 4Fs. I will have a look in my book for the history on Monday when back at the house. I know these little 0-6-0's of MR, LMS have a complicated history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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