Mike Storey Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Is Dapol doing an Electric blue livery one (73 201)? Any limited edition or special commission? You will find the complete range on the Hatton's website Jeffrey. I think it includes an electric blue, shown as "early blue". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 You will find the complete range on the Hatton's website Jeffrey. I think it includes an electric blue, shown as "early blue". Thanks, wasn't sure if that was BR Blue or Electric Blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Is Dapol doing an Electric blue livery one (73 201)? Any limited edition or special commission? Hobb E have commissioned E6047 in early blue livery... http://www.hobb-e-mail.com/Dapol-e6047-preview-update.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Excuse the silly question, but I've been utterly confused as to what liveries they are being released in. Does anyone know what liveries exactly are going to be produced? Well Dapol today have confirmed 4D-006-007 replacement...73206 Lisa! http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=information/news&news_id=91#.U81eARZeL4I Shall go well with the Limited Edition from Olivia Trains 73205 Jeanette. Olivia's Trains are also producing a Gatwick Express and First Group GBRf: http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/ There is also the Pullman limited editions with Gaugemaster: http://www.gaugemaster.com/search_results.asp?searchstring=dagm1%20brand~~579~~brand&style=&andor=&method=&strType=&OB=p_a¤tpage=1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Hi all, I was about to order the large logo blue version but a quick search for a suitable decoder first only showed up a few PluX22 examples. Is there any other choice in the UK apart from Uhlenbrock or Zimo and is there a sound chip with 73 sounds and a PluX22 interface (paging Legomanbiffo ?) Edit : found a Lokpilot at Digitrains which seems to be the cheapest at £27. Thanks Paul Edited July 28, 2014 by pauln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hi all, I was about to order the large logo blue version but a quick search for a suitable decoder first only showed up a few PluX22 examples. Is there any other choice in the UK apart from Uhlenbrock or Zimo and is there a sound chip with 73 sounds and a PluX22 interface (paging Legomanbiffo ?) Edit : found a Lokpilot at Digitrains which seems to be the cheapest at £27. Thanks Paul I only know of the Howes chip with pre-recorded 73 sounds (which are superb IMHO) but this is for a Lima/Hornby. For now, I would suggest using a conversion plate ( I have not yet seen a 8 to 22 pin plate, but there are several 8 to 21 pin versions), but I am sure someone, if not Howes (although they don;t seem to be agents for Dapol at the moment) will bring one out in the next 12 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hi all, I was about to order the large logo blue version but a quick search for a suitable decoder first only showed up a few PluX22 examples. Is there any other choice in the UK apart from Uhlenbrock or Zimo and is there a sound chip with 73 sounds and a PluX22 interface (paging Legomanbiffo ?) Edit : found a Lokpilot at Digitrains which seems to be the cheapest at £27. Thanks Paul ESU do a PluX12 Loksound, so no doubt that Charlie/Bif will have suitable decoders when the time comes. I believe that it will fit the plux22 socket on the loco. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) The Howes and Bif sound projects are currently only for ESU LokSound (they both offer class 73 projects - I have one of each). However, as long as ESU do a 22-pin LokSound they will be able to be put on to those. I'm not actually sure which PLuX configurations ESU offer at the moment, though - will have a look at their website later.Edit: I re-read Mick's post above and it looks like he may have answered my query re what is available from ESU. Edited July 30, 2014 by SRman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The Howes and Bif sound projects are currently only for ESU LokSound (they both offer class 73 projects - I have one of each). However, as long as ESU do a 22-pin LokSound they will be able to be put on to those. I'm not actually sure which PLuX configurations ESU offer at the moment, though - will have a look at their website later. Where did this Plux thing come from? I am confused with what Dapol are using in their models as the standard connection. The 2014/15 catalogue clearly stated 21-pin MTC (like most Bachmann) for the Class 73. Like you say plux is hard to find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Dapol were switching to the PluX standard from these models onwards, I believe, although I can't say for sure where I read that. It may even have been earlier in this thread or in one of the magazines. If they do stick to the 21-pin arrangement that makes it easy! Edit: I found the reference in post 47 from DJM Dave (posted when he was still Dapol Dave). http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/54082-new-oo-gauge-class-73/?p=861806 Edited July 30, 2014 by SRman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Where did this Plux thing come from? I am confused with what Dapol are using in their models as the standard connection. The 2014/15 catalogue clearly stated 21-pin MTC (like most Bachmann) for the Class 73. Like you say plux is hard to find. The problem is that the 21pin is non-standard. It was devised by Maerklin for C-Sinus motor and doen't follow either NMRA or MOROP standards. The PluX range is a standard (MOROP/NEM 658) and will make things easier, eventually! The same socket can be used by PluX 8/12/16/22 decoders. If a manufacturer produces a model that doesn't have sufficient functions to need a large socket they can use a smaller one. The PluX range has a fitting similar to 21pin MTC so there should be a better electrical connection. There shouldn't be problems with the pins of a socket shorting out on the loco frame, as happened with some older Heljan locos. Eventually we'll be in a better place but it will take time for all the manufactures to catch up. Luke PS this is the link to the NEM standard http://www.miba.de/morop/nem658_d.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The problem is that the 21pin is non-standard. It was devised by Maerklin for C-Sinus motor and doen't follow either NMRA or MOROP standards. The PluX range is a standard (MOROP/NEM 658) and will make things easier, eventually! The same socket can be used by PluX 8/12/16/22 decoders. If a manufacturer produces a model that doesn't have sufficient functions to need a large socket they can use a smaller one. The PluX range has a fitting similar to 21pin MTC so there should be a better electrical connection. There shouldn't be problems with the pins of a socket shorting out on the loco frame, as happened with some older Heljan locos. Eventually we'll be in a better place but it will take time for all the manufactures to catch up. Luke PS this is the link to the NEM standard http://www.miba.de/morop/nem658_d.pdf A better description of what the PluX pin allocation is and why it was used... Luke http://www.opendcc.de/info/decoder/schnittstellen_e.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 A better description of what the PluX pin allocation is and why it was used... Yes, thanks. I am already familar with all that but it doesn't help in this topic. So, is the Dapol 73 21-pin MTC, or Plux? Time to ring Dapol me thinks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernelectric Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Yes, thanks. I am already familar with all that but it doesn't help in this topic. So, is the Dapol 73 21-pin MTC, or Plux? Time to ring Dapol me thinks... According to Hattons website they are 21-pin DCC ready... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony M Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 <blowing the dust of the topic> One month on from last post.... Has anyone heared any news on the 73? T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Also, do we know which 73/0s Dapol are planning to produce ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 They have only annouced one 73/0 in BR Green. Hopefully they will do it rail blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Pedro32 Posted October 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2014 Ever the optimist I wonder whether we will see the much anticipated 73's arriving before Christmas? A box shifter had suggested my two pre-orders would be in stock between September and October '14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Delayed until early 2015 according to Olivia's trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Delayed until early 2015 according to Olivia's trains. The Dapol website seems updated on "product information" to confirm this, the status reads "In Decoration Stage" and is due between December 2014 and January 2015. So an early 2015 it would seem, but I cannot wait, looks like it shall be a cracking model. I have both the GBRf ones ordered. Has anyone communicated with Dapol recently with more information? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I want one a GBRf one but Hattons are not listing that one. Does anyone know if Dapol plan to produce either of the 73/9's as I'd want them too! Incidentally I've recently got a Hornby 73 which weighs about a 10th of the Lima one I had 30-odd years ago! I don't need it to haul very much but just wondering if anyone has directly compared the two for pulling power? I guess the Dapol model will be all-axle drive anyhow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I want one a GBRf one but Hattons are not listing that one. Does anyone know if Dapol plan to produce either of the 73/9's as I'd want them too! GBRf are exclusive to Olivia's Trains: http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/ Haven't heard about them producing the 73/9s; would involve a tooling change, so one for the future I would think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2014 Does anyone know if Dapol plan to produce either of the 73/9's as I'd want them too! Haven't heard about them producing the 73/9s; would involve a tooling change, so one for the future I would think. And to further complicate matters, there are significant differences between the NR and GBRf 73/9's Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) My mouth's been watering over the release of this new ED for soooo long, I'm stood in a puddle. Come on, Dapol... Edited November 12, 2014 by Pete 75C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I want one a GBRf one but Hattons are not listing that one. Does anyone know if Dapol plan to produce either of the 73/9's as I'd want them too! Incidentally I've recently got a Hornby 73 which weighs about a 10th of the Lima one I had 30-odd years ago! I don't need it to haul very much but just wondering if anyone has directly compared the two for pulling power? I guess the Dapol model will be all-axle drive anyhow. GBRf are exclusive to Olivia's Trains: http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/ Haven't heard about them producing the 73/9s; would involve a tooling change, so one for the future I would think. Yes, Olivia are doing a limited edition 73205. But there is also the main cat. edition from Dapol under code 4D-006-007 which shall be 73206. Great news as the GBRf models run double headed. http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=information/news&news_id=91#.VGOEJda9WpY I understand the order forms have not gone out yet, but Rails say they shall order them at the same price as 001-006. They are listed as pre-order with Kernow tho more expensive. http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/product/43593/4D006007_Dapol_Class_73_ElectroDiesel_Locomotive_73_206 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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