RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 31, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2014 Hi Jeff, Forgot to add, use a power drill as opposed to a cordless, you need a fast speed revolution to avoid breakout. Thanks for that, Mike. When I eventually get some perspex I'll conduct a few trial drillings on offcuts to see how it goes. Duncan - the masking tape is a good idea to help with the marking out. I'll let you know the results - in about a year's time!! Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Jeff I everything goes to plan :jester: I should be able to do a step by step. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 1, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2014 Jeff I everything goes to plan :jester: I should be able to do a step by step. Duncan Yes, I'm looking forward to producing step-by-step sequences again, once everything gets started. I know people find them interesting to look at, and many of my favourite threads (Far North Line, Bacup, Dent, Bakewell, Greenfield, The Old Road, Camden Shed, AV, Goathland, Bodge's and George T's etc - to name a few) do this. Always better than seeing an end product just appear "out of the hat"!! Jeff I suspect it'll be quiet on here today with Stafford attracting a fair few Lunesters. Hoping for plenty of pics later. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 92220 Posted February 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2014 That's kind of you Jeff - I didn't know Camden rated in such company as that! I've not posted much on KL (I've not posted a lot anywhere to be honest!) but I follow every day or so (I'd never keep up if I left it any longer....) I'm really intrigued to see KL2 take shape in due course. At some point soon we hope to build our own place, and a home for Camden Shed is a priority, whether in current form or v2. So there is much to interest me as the RMWeb equivalent of War and Peace racks up the pages. Iain 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 1, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2014 Hi Iain. Don't put Camden down - it's an excellent bit of work (I'd enjoy it for the trackwork alone!). I love the description of KL as "War and Peace" - heaven knows how many pages it'll reach by the time KL2's been going for a while! I'd give you a couple of likes and a couple of funnys for that post if I was able! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I wanted to get some pics of Dentdale today but it was busy and the I FORGOT. :no: :no: But it shows how much room a proper Viaduct needs to look right, it must have taken up nearly 4 ft in N Gauge. And :senile: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 1, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) I wanted to get some pics of Dentdale today but it was busy and the I FORGOT. :no: :no: But it shows how much room a proper Viaduct needs to look right, it must have taken up nearly 4 ft in N Gauge. And :senile: Shame about the pics. But you are right. I still have the urge to do away with the underbridge and construct the 9 arch curved viaduct. That would come out at around 7 ft in 00. I guess I'm just crazy!! Jeff Edited February 1, 2014 by Physicsman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Ooh! A 7' long viaduct, lovely!!! But, the underbridge would like good too. The choice is yours! Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 2, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2014 Ooh! A 7' long viaduct, lovely!!! But, the underbridge would like good too. The choice is yours! Cheers, John E. Yes, what a choice to have to make. I think the underbridge will end up getting the nod for a couple of reasons. First, if I build a larger viaduct, it's a lot of (very enjoyable) effort but it'll make the current 6-archer redundant, and I don't really want that. And second, the underbridge - with its associated banking - is another interesting feature that fits better into the landscape adjoining the existing viaduct. I can see a situation where I build a very large viaduct as a centrepiece for a diorama. That would be fun! Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted February 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2014 I know I keep piping on about it but the road bridge at the north end of KS is a key feature and much more fitting for the location than the viaduct (as nice as large viaducts are). Also, every time you drive under the real thing, you can think 'I've modelled this' which will be really rewarding. When I finally made my pilgrimage to Bacup, it was immensely satisfying to see the buildings i had modelled in real life for the first time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 2, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2014 I know I keep piping on about it but the road bridge at the north end of KS is a key feature and much more fitting for the location than the viaduct (as nice as large viaducts are). Also, every time you drive under the real thing, you can think 'I've modelled this' which will be really rewarding. When I finally made my pilgrimage to Bacup, it was immensely satisfying to see the buildings i had modelled in real life for the first time. You are RIGHT to bang on about it, Jason. The prototype is sitting there, waiting for me to use it and I drive under that bridge more than a dozen times a year. It's a no brainer, really. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 2, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2014 Here are 3 pics showing the location of the underbridge. The first 2 showing its position relative to the end of the platforms, the third showing the roadside view. Photos courtesy of Ian Macdonald (Kirkby Stephen West). Jeff 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 2, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2014 Black and white view of the underbridge, mid 1960s. Again, thanks to Ian. Jeff 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) No Brainer, The road bridge would win EVERY TIME, and if you need a Viaduct for a Photographic centre piece then I have JUST THE THING, is sitting hear waiting for a GOOD HOME. :locomotive: :locomotive: And Edited February 2, 2014 by Andrew P 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 2, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2014 No Brainer, The road bridge would win EVERY TIME, and if you need a Viaduct for a Photographic centre piece then I have JUST THE THING, is sitting hear waiting for a GOOD HOME. :locomotive: :locomotive: And Yes, I think there's no argument about it. The underbridge allows some nice variation in height, a different feature for the layout and is prototypical. A few years ago I wouldn't have been swayed by the last point, but the "material" is staring me in the face, so why not make use of it? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 And if you can follow the lead of Jason and Al, you will copy it to the last rivet, or you could just make it so it looks about right and fits your location, that would be MY WAY but then I am the king of BODGIT aNDE 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 2, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2014 And if you can follow the lead of Jason and Al, you will copy it to the last rivet, or you could just make it so it looks about right and fits your location, that would be MY WAY but then I am the king of BODGIT aNDE MY WAY, too, Andy. Jeff, aka Frank Sinatra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 More like Frank Skinner or Frank Butcher, hahhaha And Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted February 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2014 It is funny but my experience of drilling perspex is quite different drilling small holes say up to 6mm I found that high speed caused softening of the perspex and clogging of the drill. A slow speed worked better. For large holes I would use my hole saws. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hi Jeff, I'm in agreement, the underbridge does it for me. I'll take the high road (Coal Road overbridge) - and - you take the low road (KS underbridge) and I'll be in Carlisle afore ye' All I need is a good tune for that bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hi Don, You are probably right about large holes but I think we were all thinking about switch holes commonly 1/4". The added info helps though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted February 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2014 You will have to stop wittering on about viaducts otherwise I might end up tearing up my plans and building one one of those lovely Brunel wooden fan viaducts Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 You need a day at Pendon my friend, LOVELY, :locomotive: :locomotive: :locomotive: Bodge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted February 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2014 And if you can follow the lead of Jason and Al, you will copy it to the last rivet, or you could just make it so it looks about right and fits your location, that would be MY WAY but then I am the king of BODGIT aNDE Oy, are you accusing me of being a rivet-counter? How very dare you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) I do not think they were calling you a rivet counter,.... I can see by your avatar, you have a very nice anorak. Edited February 2, 2014 by Kal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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