Andrew P Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Sounds like a plan Mike , can I have a cake? :no: Hungry of Swad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 26, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hi Jeff and Andy, In reply to you both I have a solution. Jeff to come over to do the fell, Andy to come over to do the grass, I'll fix Andy's boards and I'll cut down Jeff's 8" x 8" timbers into USABLE dimensions..........that's got to be a bargain! Sounds quite good, Mike, so long as you don't go below 4" x 4". I can't abide straw-like supports! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 4 X 4 are you getting soft in your OLD AGE hahaha Bodger the Great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 NZ are exporting whole logs now by the million, (a lot comes back from China as 'finished' wood much to the detriment of local industry) I think Jeff you could make bargain if you come to use economies of scale... and I'll certainly be able to do you a good deal on baseboard supports if you just pay a small insignificant admin fee up front... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Its official, Rob's lost the plot, first he's telling me tales of some Crank he knows from down under in BAT country, and now he thinks Jeff can do baseboards from JUST ONE FOREST, come on Rob, he used the National Forest (BTW that's where I live) on KL1 and then took that lot to the tip without replanting it. :nono: :nono: And 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 Anybody would think I used a lot of resources in building KL! Granted, B&Q did have to order extra stock of Kingspan and Jewsons ran out of the 4 x 2. But other than that.... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 only 2x4's ? I prefer 4x10's for making baseboards out of...or 4x4's. (the 4x4's for real railway...) Some nice photos of big timber: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsol_Trestle James 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 only 2x4's ? I prefer 4x10's for making baseboards out of...or 4x4's. (the 4x4's for real railway...) Some nice photos of big timber: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsol_Trestle James Don't give me ideas, James. I've seen a number of US layouts with these marvellous trestle viaducts, but the prototypes are awe-inspiring. I wonder what the lifetime of such (wooden) structures happens to be. Anyway, for the moment I'll stick to using 4" x 2" cioupled with 3" x 1" to make the operating (5" x 3") girders of my planned new frames. I may even conduct some long-term measurements to see if I can detect any sag at the midpoint..... Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Don't give me ideas, James. I've seen a number of US layouts with these marvellous trestle viaducts, but the prototypes are awe-inspiring. I wonder what the lifetime of such (wooden) structures happens to be. Anyway, for the moment I'll stick to using 4" x 2" cioupled with 3" x 1" to make the operating (5" x 3") girders of my planned new frames. I may even conduct some long-term measurements to see if I can detect any sag at the midpoint..... Jeff Hi Jeff, Just nipping to B&Q for some rechargeable PP3 batteries, I can't afford the cost of these replacements any more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 Sorry Mike - I really don't mean to shock you! I recently bought a Duracell recharging unit - highly recommended!! At the moment the dream of wood-cutting is a few months away. But the anticipation is building by the day. I'm going to visit the building site on Saturday, and hoping to see the foundation/beginnings of the new bunker taking shape. In the meantime it's back to reading plenty of books until it's time to pay another visit to Jason's. Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Just had a PM conversation with Bodge, especially regarding him driving things at his Club and people asking for his advice..... Reminded me of this short poem by Roger McGough: The Leader I wanna be the leaderI wanna be the leaderCan I be the leader?Can I? I can?Promise? Promise?Yippee I'm the leaderI'm the leaderOK what shall we do? Roger McGough Nothing to do with KL, but so apt to many situations! Jeff Edited February 27, 2014 by Physicsman 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I would write that in reverse Jeff........... I'm fed up being the leader. I'm fed up being the leader Can I stop being the leader Please, please can I Promise, yes, no, maybe Yahoo, yippee I'm free Right you and I are getting this job finished OK! Mike McManus C 2014 Hope the visit goes to plan. Have you got the 'Railway World Special' booklet format called 'Settle to Carlisle Route' ? I've had it for years but been re-reading it this week, its an excellent little publication and available on Amazon for a few pounds. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the booklet info, Mike. I'll have a look on Amazon and see what I can find. Btw, Jason loaned me the Furness Railway book I mentioned previously. It was published in 2011, so I thought it'd still be available. Nothing on Amazon, Waterstones etc. Then I went onto Abe Books, apparently an Amazon subsidiary. Yes, they could get me a copy and it's duly on its way. So Abe Books gets a recommendation from me. Jeff Edited February 27, 2014 by Physicsman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Thanks for the booklet info, Mike. I'll have a look on Amazon and see what I can find. Btw, Jason loaned me the Furness Railway book I mentioned previously. It was published in 2011, so I thought it'd still be available. Nothing on Amazone, Waterstones etc. Then I went onto Abe Books, apparently an Amazon subsidiary. Yes, they could get me a copy and it's duly on its way. So Abe Books gets a recommendation from me. Jeff Hi Jeff, Yes Abe books is another valuable source, I've had a few from them over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Jeff, Just dropped in to look at Abe books and typed in 'settle-carlisle' and the booklet came up first at £1.94 BARGAIN !!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 Jeff, Just dropped in to look at Abe books and typed in 'settle-carlisle' and the booklet came up first at £1.94 BARGAIN !!! Yes, one of the Amazon sellers had a copy for 1p PLUS £2-80 p&p..... I've ordered a copy of the booklet - intrigued to see what's in it! (No, I don't expect to see Delia Smith recipes..... ) Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The Leader is back from Club, Next Tuesday is the AGM and I will probably be re elected onto the Committee but I'm standing down as Editor of the Newsletter. I don't want to be the Leader. And 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 The Leader is back from Club, Next Tuesday is the AGM and I will probably be re elected onto the Committee but I'm standing down as Editor of the Newsletter. I don't want to be the Leader. And My dad is nearly 79 and has been the Chairman, and driving force, behind his local Fishing Club for the last 38 years. Nobody else seems to have any "drive" and nobody wants to do anything - unless dad leads the way. He's too old to be leading work parties and construction projects. Heaven help the club when he retires.... it'll fall apart. So I know where you're coming from, Andy. Let someone else do the job and concentrate on what you enjoy most. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Did you know the first Hattons Garratts have arrived in the shop... LMS fixed bunker pristine ones, but Bodgit can suggest ways to deal with that? You'll have to re-think KL2 now Jeff... Midlands mineral trains only... 4' radius minimum, for 80+ mineral-wagon trains, a serious re-think of KL2 is now mandatory. Edit; I just bought one, couldn't resist... it's called 'lightly weathered' but I'll buy some powders perhaps and Bodgit can start correspondence lessons... Edited February 28, 2014 by robmcg 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 28, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2014 An interesting looking loco, Rob. I know the "Garratt" loco configuration was used all over the world and the Heljan-Hattons model will be welcomed by many. Not my cup of tea, though. I'll stick to my 8F, 9f and G2As for hauling heavy freight. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2014 Got have one, if only to sit on the display case top shelf! 200 smackeroonies though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted February 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2014 I reckon 200 quid is good for what you get and it does look lovely but I won't be getting one, especially as I've bought another Black Five and am chasing down another (to take the total to four) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 28, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2014 I reckon 200 quid is good for what you get and it does look lovely but I won't be getting one, especially as I've bought another Black Five and am chasing down another (to take the total to four) Yes, it's a question of priorities and relevance. With unlimited funds available I'd probably buy one just to "collect" - and it'd be permanently stuck in a cabinet. Much better to use the funds for another Black 5 and an Ivatt in my case. (Or more wagons!) Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted February 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2014 Can not afford it also as there is a J50 build going on and am still after a Hornby N2 chassis before I buy that 3D printed N1 which isn't cheap either. Then there's the Bachmann J11 which is a must have too. Where's it gonna end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 28, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2014 Can not afford it also as there is a J50 build going on and am still after a Hornby N2 chassis before I buy that 3D printed N1 which isn't cheap either. Then there's the Bachmann J11 which is a must have too. Where's it gonna end? Shaun - it never does end!! And I'm grateful for that, as there's ALWAYS something to look forward to, be it locos, wagons, general materials..... The phrase "we've never had it so good" is certainly true in railway modelling! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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