GrahamUK33 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I am looking at creating Newbury Station in Berkshire during the 1920s and 1930s. I can’t find a track plan and also a plan of the station buildings, is anyone able to help with this? I need the track plan to workout how long I can make the layout. It should be an interesting layout with a mainline from London Paddington to Penzance. There were also two branch lines which are the Lambourn Valley branch line and the Didcot to Southampton line. I have found some old photos on the net which give a indication of what the area was like and what rolling stock was used. I haven’t found anyone who has modelled Newbury Station as of yet, anyone know if there is one around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Modeller Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 old-maps.co.uk is a good source showing how the station changed over time as well as for a specific date Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Whilst old-maps is a fantastic source for plans, the one problem I have is determining the scale of what you find. To put things in perspective I usually refer back to a modern satellite image which has a scale bar, and superimpose the two images and adjust until they fit as well as I can manage. Just be warned that a quick check on Streetmap showed that the current station, like most in the UK, takes up a lot of space. The distance between the Bartholomew Road and Cheap Street bridges, where the station platforms are located, is about 500 metres, which converts to 21 feet at 4mm, and the rest of the current layout, from Cheap Street to Boundary Road bridge is a further 600 m, or 25 feet or nearly 50 feet overall, and that doesn't include the western run to the junction. The approximate width of the station area is of the order of 75 metres, so around 3 feet in 4mm. I seem to recall that Eric Fisher included a representationof Newbury in his magnificent Birkenhead and Woodside layout which appeared in Railway Modeller in the 1960's. (Without checking I may have got these names all wrong!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamUK33 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 I have been looking on the Google earth satellite image and also comparing that with some old maps on old-maps, but no idea how to lift the track layout from this unless it is all by eye. I have done some rough measurements and found that that complete layout would be about 6m long (2mm scale), the platform would be around 2m long. I can’t see how I would be able to shorten the layout as one half is the station activity and the other half would be the goods yard activity, plus all the through traffic as well. I can picture what I am after but the project seems very daunting at the moment. I can’t find any building plans for the station buildings, but not sure if these would have been in a past edition of the Railway Modeller. It seems as if I would need to go to Kew to the record archive to get all the information I need, does that sound right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMRG Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Good day Graham, A good source of track plans and buildings can be found in An Historical Survey of the Didcot, Newbury and Southampton Railway by C W Judge from OPC [iSBN 0-86093-149-8]. Good luck with the layout as it'll be an interesting one to operate. Hope this helps, GBMRG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Looking forward to seeing this being one stop down the line! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 26, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2012 Signalling plans are available (for a price) here - http://www.s-r-s.org...diagrams.htm#XA Search for Newbury on the page. (Usual Ctrl+F) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamUK33 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) A good source of track plans and buildings can be found in An Historical Survey of the Didcot, Newbury and Southampton Railway by C W Judge from OPC [iSBN 0-86093-149-8]. Many thanks, I have now placed an order on Amazon. Signalling plans are available (for a price) here - http://www.s-r-s.org...diagrams.htm#XA Just had a look at the plans, there would certainly be of use. They seem a bit expensive, so I will wait for the book to arrive as they may be in there. If they are not in the book then I will have to buy the ones that I need. Edited February 26, 2012 by GrahamUK33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted February 26, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2012 There is a map of Newbury station from the 1910 edition of the OS in the Middleton Press book "Didcot to Winchester" which shows the track layout after the widening. The scale is 25inch to 1 mile. This book and the "Branch Line to Lambourne" from the same publisher are useful additions to your research. Having attended boarding school in that area during my youth, I know the town and look forward to seeing the layout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 26, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2012 A good source of track plans and buildings can be found in An Historical Survey of the Didcot, Newbury and Southampton Railway by C W Judge from OPC [iSBN 0-86093-149-8]. There was a supplement to this, or was this an original version which was supplemented and the master has been updated ? - Sadly my copy of the book and the supplement are 250 miles away at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Full signal box diagrams for Newbury West / Middle and East appear in Signal Box Diagrams of the Great Western and Southern Railways Vol 20.pages 14-16 Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMRG Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Many thanks, I have now placed an order on Amazon. Just had a look at the plans, there would certainly be of use. They seem a bit expensive, so I will wait for the book to arrive as they may be in there. If they are not in the book then I will have to buy the ones that I need. Hello again. There are some signalling diagrams in the book along with the track plan and building elevations but may not be enough detail for your period. Best regards, GBMRG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John C Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I shall follow this with interest as my house backs on to lhe line just to the west of Newbury Station Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamUK33 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Thanks for all the replies guys, I have got a book on order and will wait and see how much info that has. I am sure I will need to purchase some more books. I am really surprised that I can’t find anyone who has modelled Newbury station before, it looks as if it used to be quite a busy station along with the goods yard to the East. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 28, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2012 I lived in Newbury for a while (backing onto the Lambourn Valley trackbed) and will be interested to see how this turns out - certainly an interesting station to model for someone with enough space - not too much of a problem in N. Have some of the books mentioned and happy to help if I can. In the early 70s there was a club exhibition layout that had Newbury buildings on it although the track plan was not based on Newbury. Many features of early 20c Great Western stations were standardised so you may find that many parts (doors, windows, etc) are obtainable from specialist suppliers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamUK33 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 I have received ‘The story of the Didcot, Newbury and Southampton Railway’ by C.W.Judge. I have found this to be a good book with the track layout, signalling and a drawing of the station building as well as some photos mainly from the 1950s. Where I am at: To model from Bartholomew Bridge to Boundary Road Bridge will take up 6 meters plus the radius on each end to make a loop, total length about 7 meters. This will not fit in the loft area. I could model from Bartholomew Bridge to Winchcombe Road Bridge (A339) will take up 2.9 meters plus the radius on each end to make a loop, total length about 4 meters. This will fit in the loft but to be realistic I only have enough room for 3 meters, unless I keep splitting the layout up. I was looking at a 0.6 meter diorama and 0.4 meter for the out of sight fiddle yard that will allow for 10 lines. So a total of 1 meter wide. Would this be the reason that no one has done Newbury before due to the amount of space needed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted March 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I am really surprised that I can’t find anyone who has modelled Newbury station before FWIW, the trackplan for "The bay" on Farthing is basically the Lambourn Bay with a couple of features from the Winchester bay thrown in: The above books are all recommended. I wrote up a few more on the reference list here: http://www.gwr.org.uk/nodns.html that may be of interest. It would be an extremely interesting project if you go ahead with it. Edited March 6, 2012 by Mikkel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newburytown Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Hi Graham UK33, Did you ever build the Newbury layout you mentioned in this thread in 2012? Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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