EBay madness

[MrWolf]

30 minutes ago, Bucoops said:

 

I had a second hand grifter, ruddy awful thing. Weighed as much as a battleship.

 

You could always tell when someone was riding one downhill, it sounded like an army Landrover. 

 

Only heavier.

[Paul H Vigor]

9 hours ago, petethemole said:

I pick wheel weights up in the street, mostly the curved clip-on variety but I do get some of the flat ones.  Certain locations are good for them,  due to bumps, pot-holes or frequently clipped kerbs.

'petethewomble'?? 

[tomparryharry]

We used to make fishing weights out of them. The fishing fraternity would make weights of about 4 ounce, sometimes 8 ounce. Seeing 12 fishermen 'casting off'  at once on Porthcawl  harbour makes for an interesting advert in the South Wales Echo. 

 

"For sale. nearly new jet- ski, used once,  spares or repair".  Although not a fishing person myself, I could understand the delight of scoring a direct hit  on an errant person* whilst they enjoyed some peace & quiet after a week of nightshifts. 

 

* I'm not allowed to use the word, otherwise the Admins will ban me.... 

[ianmacc]

19 hours ago, petethemole said:

I pick wheel weights up in the street, mostly the curved clip-on variety but I do get some of the flat ones.  Certain locations are good for them,  due to bumps, pot-holes or frequently clipped kerbs.

I was about to say exactly the same thing! A good walk usually generates at least one! I’ve more than I can need now but can’t walk past free material. I also collect any mint condition washers screws etc.

 

started in lockdown one when the rail shops were shut and all we could do was literally go for walks. 

Edited May 27, 2021 by ianmacc
Added para

[PhilJ W]

I have plenty of lead for weighing down wagons. I have an end terrace house with a six foot brick wall surrounding half of the back garden together with a block of brick built garages lower down the garden. When the estate was built a Redifusion cable TV system was installed and the cable ran along the back and sides of the garages, around the garden walls and across the back of the house. The cable was suspended by lead straps nailed to the brickwork every few feet, the lead straps being about half an inch wide by four inches long. The cable system was abandoned about twenty years ago so when the cable was removed I recovered well over a hundred of the lead straps. Got a fair bit for the cable as well as scrap.

[MartinWales]

21 hours ago, Bucoops said:

 

I had a second hand grifter, ruddy awful thing. Weighed as much as a battleship.

And almost as difficult to steer....

[SteveyDee68]

 

I spotted some Replica Railways small hopper wagons on eBay, and decided to keep an eye on them as I am in the market for suchlike.

 

I have just picked up a set of three iron ore hoppers produced by Bachmann exclusively for Modelzone from my local model shop, and was feeling quite pleased with myself as they look nice models with decent underframes (better than the old Mainline models). However, I found myself wondering why I hadn't seen small hopper wagons from Bachmann before...

 

A penny dropped ... Modelzone went some time ago, so these must be older models...

 

Didn't Bachmann originally set up by buying the mouldings/patterns etc from Replica Railways?

 

And didn't Replica Railways, in turn, use mouldings/patterns from the defunct Mainline?

 

I then remembered reading on RMWeb, perhaps by @Ruston, that the Mainline model incorrectly had a baseplate  between the hopper and the underframe (which he removed on his models)..

 

I immediately had a peer at my Bachmann models - nice underframe, but a baseplate between hopper and...

 

Quick check of items on eBay ... yep, baseplate on Mainline models, too!

 

Oh dear...

 

So, back to the Replica Railways versions I had bookmarked to check them, too.  Except I can't, as they are shown in their boxes and I can't actually see if the underframes are improved over the Mainline models (brake gear nit in line with wheels etc)

 

Checked the listing description ... "Bachmann models in their correct Replica Railways boxes"...

 

Colour me confused!

 

Surely Bachmann models would correctly be in Bachmann boxes, and Replica Railways models correctly in boxes marked the same?

 

Can anybody enlighten me? (I suspect @Ruffnut Thorston might have the answer!) I see no point paying double the price for a Replica Railways model if it is exactly the same as a Mainline model in a different box, but if it does have an improved underframe then I can live with the errant baseplate.

 

Why is thus in the eBay madness thread, you wonder?

 

I wrote to the vendor asking for clarification. It was only after I sent the message that it clicked who the seller was...

 

Our infamous friendly eBay seller ...

 

Gostude

 

 

PS

What are the chances of a reply from him, do we think?

Edited May 28, 2021 by SteveyDee68
Too many typos!

[Hroth]

56 minutes ago, SteveyDee68 said:

 

I wrote to the vendor asking for clarification. It was only after I sent the message that it clicked who the seller was...

 

Our infamous friendly eBay seller ...

 

Gostude

 

Now that you've shown interest, he'll relist them at a nice little markup.

 

As for "Bachmann models in their correct Replica Railways boxes", there were probably 3 unboxed Bachmann hoppers, and he had 3 empty "correct" Replica boxes. Wolla!!!

 

[Ruffnut Thorston]

I believe that Replica Railways contracted Kader Industries to produce models for them from Kader owned tooling originally made for Mainline (Palitoy).
 

Kader made the tools, and supplied models to Mainline, retaining ownership of the majority of the tools.

 

Kader is the parent company of Bachmann.

 

When Bachmann launched the Branch-line range of British models, the first models were produced from the former Mainline tools. 
 

At this point, I believe, Replica Railways lost their supply of new models from Kader.

 

So, the Iron Ore Hopper wagons by Mainline, Replica, and Bachmann are basically the same.

 

Mainline.

 

Replica.

 

Bachmann.

 

Later Bachmann models do have better under frames, with NEM pockets.

 

But all have the base plates as far as I know.

 

I have the Modelzone set of three hoppers, from 2012, and a good many others...

 

New out of the box...

 

 

Later, more weathering added...and a Bachmann Pannier Tank loco...

 

Early Bachmann B.I.S.C. Hopper, labelled as LMS! It’s been weathered a bit! 

 

The same hopper wagons are also made by Dapol.

 

 

https://www.Dapol.co.uk/shop/oo-gauge/wagons-OO-Gauge/24-ton-steel-ore-hoppers

 

They took over a lot of stock from Mainline, including the former Airfix stock and tools.
 

In some cases, they made their own tools copying the Mainline and Airfix Railway System models.

 

 

 

Edited May 28, 2021 by Ruffnut Thorston
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[Enterprisingwestern]

 

Most enlightening.

You should write a book with family trees in it similar to these;

 

https://everyrecordtellsastory.com/2013/09/07/pete-frames-rock-family-trees-an-exhibition/

 

 

Herlock Holmes strikes again!

 

Mike.

[Paul H Vigor]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373579823228?_trksid=p2499334.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI373579823228.N36.S1.typeWATCH_ITEM_ENDING_SOON.R1.TR7

 

The countdown has begun, and there is one bidder - "private listing - bidder identity protected"! We will never know who won 'The Bog With No Door'!

[SteveyDee68]

1 hour ago, Ruffnut Thorston said:

 

 

https://www.Dapol.co.uk/shop/oo-gauge/wagons-OO-Gauge/24-ton-steel-ore-hoppers

 

They took over a lot of stock from Mainline, including the former Airfix stock and tools.
 

In some cases, they made their own tools copying the Mainline and Airfix Railway System models.

 

 

Wow! Just wow! I think you should have your own TV series! Your knowledge is awesome!

 

The Dapol wagon above is listed on their website as featuring NEM pockets and couplers - does that mean it is the updated chassis as per the Bachmann model (with brake gear in line with wheels?) In which case, at £12 a pop they work out cheaper than the models on offer from Gostude at £16 a pop (where it is very unclear as to whether it is the updated chassis or not, or whether these are Bachmann models or ... argh! I can't talk about his listing without my head starting to hurt!)

 

I am guessing that the underframe is a standard 10 foot wheelbase? If so, and if the Dapol underframe is the improved version, I suppose I could pick up various Mainline wagons cheaply* (ha ha!!) off eBay and then put a Dapol underframe underneath to improve them? Shame that Dapol have sold out of 10 foot wheelbase underframes...

 

Even more of a shame that they don't offer these wagons unpainted!

 

Of course, the $1,000,000 question is - did the Bachmann models suffer from the awful DROOP that all Dapol NEM couplings seem to suffer from? (I have wagons whose couplings foul on point frogs, they are that bad!!) If not, that alone would make them more desirable than the current Dapol offerings!

 

MANY HOURS OF WHAT ONLY THOSE ALREADY LOST MIGHT CONSIDER FUN!

 

 

* Actually, at the current prices demanded for these Mainline wagons, doing that might actually end up costing more than Gostude's offerings, never mind buying new direct from Dapol!

 

[SteveyDee68]

2 hours ago, Hroth said:

 

Now that you've shown interest, he'll relist them at a nice little markup.

 

As for "Bachmann models in their correct Replica Railways boxes", there were probably 3 unboxed Bachmann hoppers, and he had 3 empty "correct" Replica boxes. Wolla!!!

 

 

Most Mainline models are on eBay at around the £10 mark and as soon as I have bookmarked them I have received offers off the BIN price. Gostude's wagons are BIN at £16, already a £4-£5 markup on other eBay sellers, I haven't had any offer from him* of reduced prices (not even for multiple purchases) and he is also £4 dearer than buying a new Dapol version of the wagon ... 

 

If he is selling Bachmann wagons with the in-line brake gear and NEM couplers, and if said couplers do not droop like the Dapol models tend to, then in actual fact I think they are a bit of a bargain! Of course, there's no way of knowing without buying one to see, and who here wants to encourage him and his overpricing ways?

 

HOURS OF FUN!

 

* No surprise there!

[centraltrains]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133773788864

 

People seem to overprice the FGW 150/2s quite consistency given they're still in stock new. 

 

https://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/58206/32-935X-Bachmann-Class-150-2-2-Car-DMU-number-150-216

[Ruffnut Thorston]

Hi @SteveyDee68 

 

The current Dapol chassis is their own, with the unique Dapol NEM coupling mountings.

The first Dapol models have the Mainline type of chassis.

 

 

Later, another type of chassis, with screw on couplings was used.

 

 

I would think that the Replica boxed wagons would retain the Mainline type chassis, with the screw on medium width Mainline / Early Bachmann (Also used by Dapol, and Hornby on some ex Dapol (Ex Airfix and Mainline!) models.) couplings.

 

I think the improved Bachman chassis, with the screw on NEM mountings, came a fair bit later, and would probably only be found in the later style Bachmann boxes.

 

 

EDIT to add:

 

I have had a look at the Replica hoppers...

 

 

 

Gostude’s Replica Hoppers have the old screw on couplings, so will also be the Mainline type of chassis.

 

The style of vac formed insert used by Replica is the same as the early Bachmann models.

 

The Mainline models date from 1978.

 

 

 

Bachmann models start in 1990.

 

I think I remember that the new chassis doesn’t fit in the older boxes properly, as the bit that goes between the brake gear is too wide for the newer chassis.

 

Bachmann Blue Riband, from 2002, hopper, stepped NEM couplings. This wagon made 2006.

 

 

 

 

Later Bachmann Hopper with NEM pockets at the correct height. Box style introduced in 2009.

 

 

 

I have seen a Bachmann hopper with the improved chassis, but still with the Mainline type couplings, so another variety to add.  This wagon made 1997.

 

 

Edited May 28, 2021 by Ruffnut Thorston
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[SteveyDee68]

@Ruffnut Thorston - truly, where would we be without your forensic insight and amazing knowledge!

 

(And I am not being facetious or tongue in cheek when I say that)

 

Your mini history of that particular model has enabled me to discount approx 20 items I was watching on eBay! Now I know, I can watch out for the Bachmann versions and bid accordingly!

 

With thanks and best wishes for a great weekend and bank holiday!

 

Steve S

 

PS

Sucks ya boo to Gostude - I won't be taking any of the dozen plus "Bachmann in their correct Replica Railways box" models off him!!!

Edited May 29, 2021 by SteveyDee68
Missing word / typo

[Hroth]

Borrowed from The Forum Jokes Thread : *

 

 

An early ebay listing, from before the "L@@K RARE!!!" era.

 

 

* Only accessable if you're logged in...

 

 

 

Edited May 29, 2021 by Hroth
Missed out a minor word, and it's been annoying me...

[SteveyDee68]

I notice that the numbers in the above image have been tampered with, I suspect the first lowered and the second raised*. So, could this be one of Gostude's earliest listings?

 

He does, after all, trade in "partes for wains" as well as trains!

 

HOURS OF FUN!

 

* Oooh! For a moment there being all forensically analytical I felt a bit like @Ruffnut Thorston!

[Bill Radford]

22 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Most enlightening.

You should write a book with family trees in it similar to these;

 

https://everyrecordtellsastory.com/2013/09/07/pete-frames-rock-family-trees-an-exhibition/

 

 

Herlock Holmes strikes again!

 

Mike.

Don't ever pick that book up - you won't loose a weekend, you'll loose a month!!!

[Hroth]

22 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Most enlightening.

You should write a book with family trees in it similar to these;

 

https://everyrecordtellsastory.com/2013/09/07/pete-frames-rock-family-trees-an-exhibition/

 

 

Herlock Holmes strikes again!

 

Mike.

 

26 minutes ago, Bill Radford said:

Don't ever pick that book up - you won't loose a weekend, you'll loose a month!!!

 

The BBC did at least one series back in 1995,  based on the RFT books and narrated by John Peel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00c31jy/episodes/guide

 

Its high time that they repeated them on BBC 4 and gave the increasingly insipid ToTP reruns a holiday.

[rab]

8 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said:

I notice that the numbers in the above image have been tampered with, I suspect the first lowered and the second raised*. So, could this be one of Gostude's earliest listings?

 

He does, after all, trade in "partes for wains" as well as trains!

 

HOURS OF FUN!

 

* Oooh! For a moment there being all forensically analytical I felt a bit like @Ruffnut Thorston!

Perhaps the wagon is an early Studebaker model

[MrWolf]

Studebaker did make horse drawn wagons, but not until about 1852. They also got a contract for supplying wagons to the US army during the American civil war.

[rab]

28 minutes ago, MrWolf said:

Studebaker did make horse drawn wagons, but not until about 1852. They also got a contract for supplying wagons to the US army during the American civil war.

All made to 4'-8 1/2" gauge no doubt.

[John M Upton]

Fifty sheets is your starting price for this pile of junk:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124744438317

The poor old Hymek in particular needs putting out of its misery quick and just what the hell is that silver half coach thing with the cardboard cab end? 

[Paul H Vigor]

13 minutes ago, John M Upton said:

Fifty sheets is your starting price for this pile of junk:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124744438317

The poor old Hymek in particular needs putting out of its misery quick and just what the hell is that silver half coach thing with the cardboard cab end? 

"Condition is "Used"" - and abused!?