Vanders Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Well they can't say they weren't informed. Someone is going to be very disappointed! I don't know; perhaps that has the parts someone needs to finish of a part-completed, or completed but damaged model they've already built? If you wanted to repair or complete something you've already put a lot of work into, I don't see why the price is inappropriate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted June 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2015 I don't know; perhaps that has the parts someone needs to finish of a part-completed, or completed but damaged model they've already built? If you wanted to repair or complete something you've already put a lot of work into, I don't see why the price is inappropriate. Who'd like to be a fly on the wall at eBay's complaint section? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I did wonder why at the time. Dublo and Trix power units were similarly 'under the counter'. The excuse was that they needed to be 'to order' for various mains voltages around the country, despite 240V 50 Hz* being almost universal by the fifties AFAIK. * Still cycles/second at the time - a more useful and self explanatory unit IMHO. Back at the time, thought it had to do with electrical safety regulations. One complete system that combined 240 V AC input and bare metal track output would have needed a huge amount of regulatory design protections, testing and approvals. But make the 240 V to 12 V unit a separate 3rd party item and the responsibility goes away. Or at least passes to the consumer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) I don't know; perhaps that has the parts someone needs to finish of a part-completed, or completed but damaged model they've already built? If you wanted to repair or complete something you've already put a lot of work into, I don't see why the price is inappropriate. You can't get the chassis and valve gear separately, that's for sure, unless you scratchbuild it..... Moving on, what do you make of this!? Edited June 29, 2015 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2015 You can't get the chassis and valve gear separately, that's for sure, unless you scratchbuild it..... Moving on, what do you make of this!? Well it appears to have a Ratio tender so that bit was right(ish) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 It looks like the tender from one of their Midland locomotive kits. (Known for their inability to pull the skin off a rice pudding - not unlike their prototypes). One IIRC was a 2-4-0, the other I can't remember (0-6-0?).) The loco looks like a Will's kit, with motion from bullhead rail, as was once the custom. The cylinders slope the wrong way! (Of course, proper railways keep them horizontal, if possible.....) Further inspection suggests that the loco body is in fact of Hornby origins (There's a part number underneath which I can't make out - eyes aren't what they used to be!). I had forgotten that it existed........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grovenor Posted June 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2015 Moving on, what do you make of this!? Old news http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/5197-ebay-madness/page-633&do=findComment&comment=1936788 Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) Back at the time, thought it had to do with electrical safety regulations. One complete system that combined 240 V AC input and bare metal track output would have needed a huge amount of regulatory design protections, testing and approvals. But make the 240 V to 12 V unit a separate 3rd party item and the responsibility goes away. Or at least passes to the consumer. The transformers were still manufactured by Tri-ang, Meccano Ltd or Trix (AFAIK - certainly in the case of Meccano), so responsibility still lay with the manufacturers. For safety, all that is necessary is isolation of the primary and secondary windings and the provision of an earth connection. (The fact that 2 pin mains sockets were far from rare at the time rendered the latter somewhat superfluous - my boyhood layout was fed from a 2 pin 5A outlet....) Later Dublo units were double insulated and did not require an earth. Of course, if you used a third party transformer (much cheaper on the surplus market!), you were on your own. The luckily short lived system in the twenties, which involved a lamp bulb to drop the mains voltage, was a different matter. The track could be live to full mains voltage (and current!), if the plug was in the wrong way round. Edited June 30, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted June 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2015 Just because the Hachette Mk1 can be dis-assembled doesn't make it kitbuilt http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-KIT-BUILT-CORRIDOOR-COACH-MAROON-MINT-/321795611899?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aec835cfb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2015 Just because the Hachette Mk1 can be dis-assembled doesn't make it kitbuilt http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-KIT-BUILT-CORRIDOOR-COACH-MAROON-MINT-/321795611899?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aec835cfb It does if you blur the picture enough! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 30, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2015 Just because the Hachette Mk1 can be dis-assembled doesn't make it kitbuilt http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-KIT-BUILT-CORRIDOOR-COACH-MAROON-MINT-/321795611899?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aec835cfb Didn't they produce it as a kit over about three editions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Didn't they produce it as a kit over about three editions? Er.........no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 30, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2015 Just because the Hachette Mk1 can be dis-assembled doesn't make it kitbuilt http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-KIT-BUILT-CORRIDOOR-COACH-MAROON-MINT-/321795611899?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aec835cfb Not ebay, but there were some Hachette Mk1's on sale from a trader at the recent Perth MRS Ex for £12.50................. Cheers, Mick p.s. Possibly partaking of some slight madness soon as there's an item out there, finishing in the next couple of days that really is on my wanted list and they don't come up very often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2015 Not ebay, but there were some Hachette Mk1's on sale from a trader at the recent Perth MRS Ex for £12.50................. Cheers, Mick p.s. Possibly partaking of some slight madness soon as there's an item out there, finishing in the next couple of days that really is on my wanted list and they don't come up very often. Not madness Mick, market forces, if it's what you want and "rare" then you do what you have to do. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted July 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2015 Check out his 'descriptions' on his other items. Very un-informative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrogate009 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) The detail by which this coach is described by is utterly fantastic. EDIT - I see I was beaten for pointing that out! Edited July 1, 2015 by Harrogate009 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted July 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2015 Check out his 'descriptions' on his other items. Very un-informative. At least the seller, isn't suggesting its Bachmann or similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railsquid Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Not the usual kind of madness, but I was amused to see Vic Berry's of Leicester seems to be disposing of surplus stock on Ebay now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Just because the Hachette Mk1 can be dis-assembled doesn't make it kitbuilt http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-KIT-BUILT-CORRIDOOR-COACH-MAROON-MINT-/321795611899?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aec835cfb or worth £12.99 + £4 p&p! It was in programme for the second coach to be issued in parts over several weeks - perhaps the series didn't make it that far???? Edited July 1, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 ......p.s. Possibly partaking of some slight madness soon as there's an item out there, finishing in the next couple of days that really is on my wanted list and they don't come up very often. Not painted yellow, by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 ARRRRGHHHH ! I DO NOT BEEEELEEEEVE IT ! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIFE-LIKE-TRAINS-BRITISH-211-CABOOSE-CAR-HO-SCALE-MINT-/301676180139?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railsquid Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 ARRRRGHHHH ! I DO NOT BEEEELEEEEVE IT ! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIFE-LIKE-TRAINS-BRITISH-211-CABOOSE-CAR-HO-SCALE-MINT-/301676180139?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 Doh, this is clearly a modified Toad from the Wild Western Region. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2015 Not the usual kind of madness, but I was amused to see Vic Berry's of Leicester seems to be disposing of surplus stock on Ebay now. I see that 31 was fitted with the BR experimental tension lock coupler. It didn't catch on however! Keith 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 ARRRRGHHHH ! I DO NOT BEEEELEEEEVE IT ! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIFE-LIKE-TRAINS-BRITISH-211-CABOOSE-CAR-HO-SCALE-MINT-/301676180139?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 Some time ago, I acquired an F7A in Rail Blue to match! Obviously she's scheduled for a repaint into something more appropriate like SP 'Black Widow' Livery! I see that 31 was fitted with the BR experimental tension lock coupler. It didn't catch on however! Keith Unfortunately it did! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted July 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2015 ARRRRGHHHH ! I DO NOT BEEEELEEEEVE IT ! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIFE-LIKE-TRAINS-BRITISH-211-CABOOSE-CAR-HO-SCALE-MINT-/301676180139?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 Just wait until it gets to the first tunnel/overbridge, that'll fix it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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