Horsetan Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 The credit crunch only happened to those that didn't have any money in the first place! ....whilst others were spending someone else's money.....? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2013 Another hopelessful: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMPTY-BOX-for-LIMA-OO-30-5630-W-30TON-BOGIE-BOLSTER-WITH-STEEL-GIRDERS-/221280354340?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3385564024 This one has been running for what seems to be years, if he ever sells it I shall be very annoyed as I have thrown about 30 away in better condition and with foam inserts! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) I think some people have gone a little bit mental when bidding on Hornby's archive stock: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/OO-Gauge-/122601/m.html?_from=&_nkw=&LH_Complete=1&_armrs=1&_ssn=hornbyhobbiesltd I dont see why any of the items differ to any general releases? Fair enough, they may be a couple of years out of production, but 250 notes for a Hornby A4? With no sound? Ow! Especially seeing the 70 years of Hornby* limited edition, which might be collectable one day is going for 70 quid less at the moment. *I'll refrain from any comment re the use of 'Hornby', beyond it's 50 years next year! Edited September 19, 2013 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 ....whilst others were spending someone else's money.....?which would be all those borrowing money that they could never have expected to be able to pay back (remortgaging and spending on new TVs,holidays,cars...) Like starting a business, I think there should be some competency test in economics and financial management before anyone should be able to take out a loan or start self-employment. I think the really silly season has ended on ebay (when the kids sell of their toys to pay for the latest Xbox, whatever. Then you are just left with the traders with strange business models (and a packed stock room/ access to land-fill). Just occasionally you still get a fight between two who just do not seem to have the same comprehension of value and get carried away by the event rather than realising the item is still available elsewhere. Then the seller who's inner greed just seems to be fed by hapless bidders. But there also seems to be some pretty honest sellers out there disposing of items simply for what they can get (I bought from a fair few) rather than throwing things away. I still despise the empty boxes and my suspicion of those who buy them (those that sell them are simply feeding the dubious market) and the apparently increasing number of "parts" sales. (almost always photographed on a wooden table or 60's 'plastic' patterned tablecloth) and probably consist of their latest scrap purchase dismantled, or fret leftovers. I do wish ebay would listen to my emails and generate a new classification "rubbish" that we could assign some of these items to, and know where to go for entertainment rather than serious purchases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
84A Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) what the... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BILLBOARD-WANT-LONGER-LASTING-SEX-6x7-5x1cm-HO-1-87-Scale-KIT-Wuiske-QRS004-/321169066778?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item4ac72b0b1a EDIT: Apparently its the last one, so get in quick! Edited September 19, 2013 by 84A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 what the... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BILLBOARD-WANT-LONGER-LASTING-SEX-6x7-5x1cm-HO-1-87-Scale-KIT-Wuiske-QRS004-/321169066778?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item4ac72b0b1a EDIT: Apparently its the last one, so get in quick! Sticking it up the nose is a new one on me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2013 what the... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BILLBOARD-WANT-LONGER-LASTING-SEX-6x7-5x1cm-HO-1-87-Scale-KIT-Wuiske-QRS004-/321169066778?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item4ac72b0b1a EDIT: Apparently its the last one, so get in quick! Yes they are genuine signs, huge billboards, all over cities. The product though is decidedly dodgy, sold in their centres by non-medical staff - need I say more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Wow L@@K. A whole set of empty boxes. A brand to suit everyone! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-Lima-Dapol-Airfix-OO-Gauge-Empty-Coach-Loco-Boxes/251332365910?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D1397134226340954629%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D221280354340%26 Edit to add Except you get a Hornby box, instead of a Bachmann. Edited September 19, 2013 by kevinlms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2013 Another hatchet job but to be fair to the seller he started at 99p + p/p. I wonder if I should drip feed my 7 onto that auction site? http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=111168499124 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Ava_Hay Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 which would be all those borrowing money that they could never have expected to be able to pay back (remortgaging and spending on new TVs,holidays,cars...) I still despise the empty boxes and my suspicion of those who buy them (those that sell them are simply feeding the dubious market) and the apparently increasing number of "parts" sales. (almost always photographed on a wooden table or 60's 'plastic' patterned tablecloth) and probably consist of their latest scrap purchase dismantled, or fret leftovers. I do wish ebay would listen to my emails and generate a new classification "rubbish" that we could assign some of these items to, and know where to go for entertainment rather than serious purchases. This particular recession/meltdown was caused mainly by the financial institutions in the US throwing away all the lending criteria that have been developed over years on the basis of a theoretical mathematical model. 'You (theoretically) cannot lose money' and 'these sub prime borrowers are lucrative' are two phrases that attract both honourable banking institutions and sharks alike. Very little of the crisis started here and all those countries who are not fixated by home ownership have already recovered. The US will do what it normally does and pretend that AIG and Enron never actually happened and that collateral damage is to be expected......and ignored. Boxes have always been useful selling tools. They reduce packaging costs and are purpose made for transit preventing damage in transit. It is a really useful aid to sales if you have the box and is worth several pounds as a result, hence the market in empty boxes. Remember that one man's poison is another man's meat. There is no better example than E Bay of that maxim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Ava_Hay Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Another hatchet job but to be fair to the seller he started at 99p + p/p. I wonder if I should drip feed my 7 onto that auction site? http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=111168499124 I would be put off by this sellers 'terms and conditions'. Sounds a bit of a bleat to me and I am working on the basis that somebody like that will say 'honest' on the end and might well not be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 which would be all those borrowing money that they could never have expected to be able to pay back (remortgaging and spending on new TVs,holidays,cars...)Like starting a business, I think there should be some competency test in economics and financial management before anyone should be able to take out a loan or start self-employment.I think the really silly season has ended on ebay (when the kids sell of their toys to pay for the latest Xbox, whatever. Then you are just left with the traders with strange business models (and a packed stock room/ access to land-fill).Just occasionally you still get a fight between two who just do not seem to have the same comprehension of value and get carried away by the event rather than realising the item is still available elsewhere. Then the seller who's inner greed just seems to be fed by hapless bidders.But there also seems to be some pretty honest sellers out there disposing of items simply for what they can get (I bought from a fair few) rather than throwing things away.I still despise the empty boxes and my suspicion of those who buy them (those that sell them are simply feeding the dubious market) and the apparently increasing number of "parts" sales. (almost always photographed on a wooden table or 60's 'plastic' patterned tablecloth) and probably consist of their latest scrap purchase dismantled, or fret leftovers.I do wish ebay would listen to my emails and generate a new classification "rubbish" that we could assign some of these items to, and know where to go for entertainment rather than serious purchases. A similar test might be desirable before breeding... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy crockett Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Not a bad return 57/6 new in 1962 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tri-ang-OO-gauge-R358-2-6-0-locomotive-Davy-Crockett-tender-boxed-/121172440612?hash=item1c3670b624&nma=true&si=1uLUOhjm%252F0%252BzIJRU0BU5DO1keEw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_47wt_1255 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
84A Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Yes they are genuine signs, huge billboards, all over cities. The product though is decidedly dodgy, sold in their centres by non-medical staff - need I say more? Seriously? If you've managed to prolong the art of love making through nasal techniques, can you not adapt it to some of your cricketers (mainly batsmen) with regard to prolonging their stay at the crease? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 <snip> I still despise the empty boxes and my suspicion of those who buy them (those that sell them are simply feeding the dubious market) and the apparently increasing number of "parts" sales. (almost always photographed on a wooden table or 60's 'plastic' patterned tablecloth) and probably consist of their latest scrap purchase dismantled, or fret leftovers. <snip> That's a little bit unfair. When moving, we amassed about 40 empty boxes, the majority for for models that were stolen and a few that were destroyed or accidentally sold without the box (at a discount, when we couldn't originally find said box) I could have skipped them, but as it is we've made a couple of hundred pounds, recouping some of the losses in the process. Surely it is good business? somebody clearly has a need/want for them so what is wrong if two or more people are prepared to bid them up? - though I do admit to being surprised at some of the prices realised (£21.50 for a Heljan 47 box anyone?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2013 Seriously? If you've managed to prolong the art of love making through nasal techniques, can you not adapt it to some of your cricketers (mainly batsmen) with regard to prolonging their stay at the crease? http://www.amiaustralia.com.au/?q=node/101 They've had an on again/off again battle with authorities, but bounce back with a new series. http://agencyne.ws/ami-ads-banned-by-ad-watchdog-again/ But the nose isn't where you put the nasal spray, allegedly. http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1375569/erectile-nasal-spray-simply-didnt-work/ Some people have too much money & too embarrassed to complain, I suspect. FWIW Not 'my cricketers', I'm still officially a POM (41 years), and I get told so on those occasions when Australia win! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Boxes have always been useful selling tools. They reduce packaging costs and are purpose made for transit preventing damage in transit. It is a really useful aid to sales if you have the box and is worth several pounds as a result, hence the market in empty boxes.You will note, if read, that I didn't object to, or question the motives of the seller. Heck if I had a loft full of empty boxes (or even full boxes) I would be there with the rest selling what to me has always simply been packaging to dispose of asap. To me, the fact that someone is prepared to pay good money to inflate the appearance/quality/price of a used item just seems dubious at the least. They also often seem to be sold without the moulded inserts, anyway bubble wrap is pretty cheap along with a recycled box from Azda, etc. If I buy something in the manufacturer's box I expect it to be complete AND new (Mint and only exposed for the camera). In fact with a kit I'd rather they didn't open it even to take a photo as all too often parts get disturbed, etches bent and fingered and delicate castings broken. Stunning how many complete DJH kits arrive without wheels when they were originally sold with them! Edited September 19, 2013 by Kenton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Heck if I had a loft full of empty boxes (or even full boxes) I would be there with the rest selling what to me has always simply been packaging to dispose of asap. You are James May, and I claim my £10! The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2013 Not a bad return 57/6 new in 1962 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tri-ang-OO-gauge-R358-2-6-0-locomotive-Davy-Crockett-tender-boxed-/121172440612?hash=item1c3670b624&nma=true&si=1uLUOhjm%252F0%252BzIJRU0BU5DO1keEw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_47wt_1255 So what is the inflation rate over 50 years? Doesn't sound like a rip off to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeofyork Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 They are going for quite a bit at the moment, but I think this might be taking it a bit too far... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300959737425?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Not a bad return 57/6 new in 1962 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tri-ang-OO-gauge-R358-2-6-0-locomotive-Davy-Crockett-tender-boxed-/121172440612?hash=item1c3670b624&nma=true&si=1uLUOhjm%252F0%252BzIJRU0BU5DO1keEw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_47wt_1255 An example in good condition complete with the headlamp which has usually been broken off, so it's not overly expensive, when you consider what inflation has done to the 57/6d. (It's value as a model is a different argument of course...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2013 Just over an hour to go if someone wants a poorly described Bachmann 158 in WYPTE livery 'urban train' http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-train-/271274543937?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3f29390b41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Just over an hour to go if someone wants a poorly described Bachmann 158 in WYPTE livery 'urban train' http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-train-/271274543937?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3f29390b41 Someone got a real bargain there for £30. Praise be for lousy listings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Someone got a real bargain there for £30. Praise be for lousy listings. Would have been even better had it not been pointed out on "Ebay madness" and avoided last minute bidding :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2013 Someone got a real bargain there for £30. Praise be for lousy listings. And thank you for pointing it out, I'm the lucky winner. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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