sunshine coast Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 As it says in the title ...I thought this thread could run on with contributions and links to prototype loads that could be modelled....  I shall kick off with a few from http://www.rrpicturearchives.net  1/ http://www.rrpicture....aspx?id=909071 cable drum on flat.  2/ http://www.rrpicture....aspx?id=909091 timber posts in hopper (old telegraph poles?)  3/ http://www.rrpicture....aspx?id=879728 scrap in hopper.  4/ http://www.rrpicture...aspx?id=1629659 grassy gondola !  5/ http://www.rrpicture...aspx?id=1647003 ballast hopper  6/ http://www.rrpicture...aspx?id=2842551 freight car trucks on bulkhead  7a/ http://www.rrpicture...aspx?id=2132810 7b/ http://www.rrpicture...aspx?id=2132812 timber ties in gondolas  if done in this format it is not necessary to open every link just to see what the item is ...  Regards Trevor .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Holmes Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Would you believe it? By some kind of scary co-incidence I was over at local industry Deltak yesterday taking pictures of some of the oversized loads there and barely an hour ago I posted them to my blog here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/171/entry-8321-deltak-traffic/ Hope they are suitable. Â Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 The load in the second picture looks like recovered telegraph poles, I suspect it's a maintenance of way train, especially as the flat car to the right is loaded with new cross ties. Presumably the hoppers would be emptied either by grab or tippler as the sections of pole would be too big to fit through the hopper gates. Â Â Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 The poles are a retired pole line. They will probably be landfilled or burned. Â In picture #3 that's not a hopper, its a high side gon. Older rotary dump gons are commonly pressed into scrap service. Â In picture #5, note that its a a triple hopper that has been converted into a twin hopper. The slope sheets cover the center pocket so the standard hopper outlet in the center is just leftover and doesn't unload anything. All the ballast is unloaded through the end outlets, there is one on each side and gates can be tilted to dump rock either inside or outside the rails. When they dump ballast they will set a tie in front of the wheels of the car and push a tie down the track to blade off the ballast so it doesn't derail the car or catch the air hoses. Â In 7b the ties in the end cars might be switch ties that are too long to fit crosswise in the car. Its interesting to note the notches in the ties in the car coupled to the engine in pic 7a. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Here are some from my pix:  UP at Missouri Valley, IA, a load of slab steel and a tarped load.   Plate steel on flats near Jefferson, IA  Rail on a short bulkhead flat followed by a goil of coil steel near Jefferson, IA  What's wrong with this picture? Shiftable load next to the engine, steel bars.  Wheels on a BNSF car at the former CB&Q, former BN shops at Havelock, NE (Lincoln, NE)  Bored with black stuff in hopper cars, how about some red stuff?  Very well loaded centerbeam of lumber  Pipe on a bulkhead flat  Shredded scrap in a mill gon  Big boiler on a depressed flat # 1  Big boiler on a depressed flat #2, both of these loads are in Lincoln, NE and were served by the BN, just in case anybody was planning on modeling the BN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Garbage Trucks on Flat Car... http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/pgr-grabage-truck-load.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted January 9, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2012 I like those oversized loads. Â I have added some photos of loaded gondolas to my Gasllery page on RmWeb taken at Portland Union station , Oregon. Â Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I didn't have my camera with me yesterday (I was driving anyway and there was nowhere to stop) on Bayonne I spotted two or three of what looked like ordinary boxcars. Nothing unusual, modern the slight pent roof shape but then I noticed offset walkways on each one (i.e. not centred) and other gubbins on the roof. I did not pick up any reporting marks and have no idea what they were...... Â Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinw62 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 One picture that has stuck in my mind was one I saw of a gondola loaded with a set of points...sorry switch. The whole unit appeared to have been lifted and then just popped on its side in a gondola. It struck me that if you did that on a model it would get some raised eyebrows......prototype for everything though... Â Unfortunately I can't remember the website I saw the picture on. Â Cheers, Colin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 It may have come from these people Tracks Unlimited: http://www.bosstunnelvision.com/profiles/tracksunlimited.html  Not far from me and almost impossible to photograph unfortunately...run by a Woman by the way.  Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 One picture that has stuck in my mind was one I saw of a gondola loaded with a set of points...sorry switch. The whole unit appeared to have been lifted and then just popped on its side in a gondola. It struck me that if you did that on a model it would get some raised eyebrows......prototype for everything though... Â Its called a "panel switch" and they are quite common on class one railroads. The switch normally is shipped in 2-3 pieces with the pieces sitting diagonally on the car so they will meet the clearance restrictions. They are normally unloaded at the site and assembled next to the existing switch. When it comes time to replace the switch, the rails are cut on the existing switch, the old switch is pulled or lifted out of the way, the roadbed graded off, then the cranes lift the new panel in place. With panel switches you can replace a large switch in 8-10 hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Its called a "panel switch" and they are quite common on class one railroads. The switch normally is shipped in 2-3 pieces with the pieces sitting diagonally on the car so they will meet the clearance restrictions. They are normally unloaded at the site and assembled next to the existing switch. When it comes time to replace the switch, the rails are cut on the existing switch, the old switch is pulled or lifted out of the way, the roadbed graded off, then the cranes lift the new panel in place. With panel switches you can replace a large switch in 8-10 hours. Network Rail, along with other European operators, use these for the same job:- http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/kirowswitchcross The bed rests flat for loading and unloading, and is tilted to keep within loading gauge en-route to site- the normal wagons are two units coupled, though there is provision for a third. Most switches can be carried without dismantling- the only thing is to ensure the train arrives the correct way around if the work site is constricted (like a tunnel, for example..), as switches are awkward to turn around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Holmes Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 How about a pair of shipping containers on a flat car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted January 10, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have added some photos of freight cars, some with loads to the link below. I will add more in due course. Â Â Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine coast Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Some excellent reference photos appearing ...... Â thanks to all ...and keep them coming ... Â Regards Trevor ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 How about a pair of shipping containers on a flat car? Â Interesting - what makes it more so is that isn't intermodal equipment....the flat is owned by Kasgro who are specialists in heavy-haul / oversize type rail moves, so presumably they are parts/storage/support for a heavy haul move? The Hapag Lloyd logo's are painted out which points to them being secondhand ex shipping containers too... Â This is the Kasgro fleet - their site has lots of interesting info if anyone was wanting to model any heavy loads, Walthers has done their 'Red n Ready' KRL livery on their various well and heavy duty flat models too... http://www.kasgro.com/specs.asp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine coast Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Interesting - what makes it more so is that isn't intermodal equipment....the flat is owned by Kasgro who are specialists in heavy-haul / oversize type rail moves, so presumably they are parts/storage/support for a heavy haul move? The Hapag Lloyd logo's are painted out which points to them being secondhand ex shipping containers too... Â that would look good coupled to an empty depressed centre car ..both together being classed as one load ..being returned to base, presumably in a normal train movement ,,,? Â Regards Trevor ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Holmes Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Interesting - what makes it more so is that isn't intermodal equipment....the flat is owned by Kasgro who are specialists in heavy-haul / oversize type rail moves, so presumably they are parts/storage/support for a heavy haul move? The Hapag Lloyd logo's are painted out which points to them being secondhand ex shipping containers too...  This is the Kasgro fleet - their site has lots of interesting info if anyone was wanting to model any heavy loads, Walthers has done their 'Red n Ready' KRL livery on their various well and heavy duty flat models too... http://www.kasgro.com/specs.asp  Interesting stuff thanks, especially if you look at that in conjunction with the two large loads in the Deltak yard in one of my previous blog posts... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/171/entry-8321-deltak-traffic/  Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I question whether the flat with containers on it ever moved out of the facility. Heavy duty flats are not usually equipped with hold downs and there are no apparent securement. Plus the containers are loaded so the door is facing the other container, you can't get into the container closest to the camera until the other one is removed from the car. All of the markings are painted out of the containers, so they aren't in interchange service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Holmes Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I question whether the flat with containers on it ever moved out of the facility. Heavy duty flats are not usually equipped with hold downs and there are no apparent securement. Plus the containers are loaded so the door is facing the other container, you can't get into the container closest to the camera until the other one is removed from the car. All of the markings are painted out of the containers, so they aren't in interchange service. Â The flat car with the containers on it wasn't there on Friday but it was on Monday. Access to the area is difficult, so to get in there to place containers on the flat car should an empty car have been spotted there and loaded is not possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 In the UK we also load containers door-to-door a lot of the time, it removes any temptation for folk to break in... Â Ref the securing - I agree you can't see anything....it might just be they were shuffling them around the site, but I also wouldn't put it past Kasgro to have welded spigots to the deck... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 A common load for the KRL 88000 car is boilers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Switch removals: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1840503 Â (Note the cherry picker army looming in the background ) Â Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine coast Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Switch removals: http://www.rrpicture...aspx?id=1840503  (Note the cherry picker army looming in the background )  Dave   1974 version ....http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2735687   Regards Trevor..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine coast Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Thanks to a link Parthia27 put up in his thread I found this one of interest...  http://www.fuzzyworld3.com/pictures3/railroad/cp03-loads.html  particularly like the caboose,speeder and wheels ....as a load !!   Regards Trevor ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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