pH Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, AndrueC said: Something that continues to annoy me. My profession needs more female programmers. In thirty years I've only known two and one of those was working for another company. I find that absolutely astonishing! I worked for 35 years in software development and maintenance, in the UK and Canada. I would say that programmers and system analysts I worked with were roughly divided 70% male, 30% female. Now, there was a decreasing percentage of females as you went up the supervisory/management grades, but that IMO is a different problem. I can’t say I found females better or worse as a group than males - both could range from brilliant to incompetent. 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Darius43 said: “Chomping Beavers” is a great name for a layout - could be a BLT set in the Chilterns or somewhere. Cheers Darius Or a band... steve 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 57 minutes ago, steve1 said: Or a band... steve Or an adult website..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, Steamport Southport said: Or an adult website..... I wondered how long before it was construed as such... 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 There used to be one called 'Mr Chew's Asian Beaver'. Or so I am informed... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simontaylor484 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Sounds like.a sequel to Debbie does Dallas Or the classic Edward Pen@shands 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold AndrueC Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, pH said: I find that absolutely astonishing! I worked for 35 years in software development and maintenance, in the UK and Canada. I would say that programmers and system analysts I worked with were roughly divided 70% male, 30% female. If the proportion was even close to that it'd be nice. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1126823/worldwide-developer-gender/#:~:text=According to a global software,of the software development job. https://www.frgconsulting.com/blog/female-developers-workforce/ It's a pretty depressing statistic. Now to be fair I haven't had all that many jobs (I prefer to stay in one place) but you're the first person who's told me they have worked with significant number of female programmers. As for competency of course I have so little experience of female programmers that any opinion I have is irrelevant. But then you get studies like this just annoy the hell out of me: https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2016/02/18/study-shows-women-are-better-coders-but-only-when-gender-is-hidden But I can't help wondering - what percentage of railway modellers are women? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, AndrueC said: https://www.frgconsulting.com/blog/female-developers-workforce/ Worldwide on 10.7% but.... If you read the breakdown it says females are 54.6% of total in UK (the highest proportion) followed by Spain with 9.3% and Australia with 7.9% 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, AndrueC said: If the proportion was even close to that it'd be nice. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1126823/worldwide-developer-gender/#:~:text=According to a global software,of the software development job. https://www.frgconsulting.com/blog/female-developers-workforce/ It's a pretty depressing statistic. Now to be fair I haven't had all that many jobs (I prefer to stay in one place) but you're the first person who's told me they have worked with significant number of female programmers. As for competency of course I have so little experience of female programmers that any opinion I have is irrelevant. But then you get studies like this just annoy the hell out of me: https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2016/02/18/study-shows-women-are-better-coders-but-only-when-gender-is-hidden But I can't help wondering - what percentage of railway modellers are women? On one project I had a team of twelve programmers, all women. All based in Bangalore. P.S. Not very whacky these signs. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 hours ago, steve1 said: Or a band... steve I recall a band around here from the 1970s, who called themselves The Wide Open Beavers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, AndrueC said: But I can't help wondering - what percentage of railway modellers are women? I know of several female railway modellers, there's quite a few here on RMweb. We currently have none in our model railway club but over the years we have had a couple of female members. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Certainly quite a few around... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, 62613 said: I recall a band around here from the 1970s, who called themselves The Wide Open Beavers Did they come from Wideopen (suburb of Newcastle, just north of Gosforth) ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Ruffnut Thorston said: Certainly quite a few around... Oh, where?!! Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2021 17 hours ago, pH said: I find that absolutely astonishing! I worked for 35 years in software development and maintenance, in the UK and Canada. I would say that programmers and system analysts I worked with were roughly divided 70% male, 30% female. Now, there was a decreasing percentage of females as you went up the supervisory/management grades, but that IMO is a different problem. I can’t say I found females better or worse as a group than males - both could range from brilliant to incompetent. That seems pretty high - From my experience (14 years) I've known 9 women engineers (software developers, test engineers and PMs) out of around 80-90 total - so around 10%, which seems to fit with the general statistic. The proportion of female placement students we've had has been much higher though, >40%. There were also a few women on my course at University, but all were international students and left after graduating. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 18 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: Did they come from Wideopen (suburb of Newcastle, just north of Gosforth) ? You'll Pity Me if I say I don't know. (village just north of Durham City) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, 62613 said: You'll Pity Me if I say I don't know. (village just north of Durham City) I’ll raise you; Two Ball Lonnen. Either an American Gangster or Fenham the posh suburb of Newcastle! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir TophamHatt Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 08/04/2021 at 17:04, melmerby said: He used to keep some hard to find records. Some years ago I heard a piece of renaissance/early music on a BBC TV programme that I didn't recognise. I rang the BBC to find out what it was and spoke to the programme's producer, who told me the title & album it was from. I then tried to buy a copy and found that the shop in Needless Alley was the only place that kept a copy. Wasn't this piece was it? Have heard it many times but thinking the only way to figure out what it is may be a FOI request :/ Even emailed a very well renown music producer who has no idea 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir TophamHatt said: Wasn't this piece was it? Have heard it many times but thinking the only way to figure out what it is may be a FOI request :/ Even emailed a very well renown music producer who has no idea No. That sounds like something modern written as background music! The piece I was looking for was an excerpt from "Tanzmusik der Praetorius Zeit". (Dance music from the time of Michael Praetorius) It is an album mainly of music from a collection published by Praetorius in 1612. The album is from 1960. Edited May 12, 2021 by melmerby 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, melmerby said: No. That sounds like something modern written as background music! The piece I was looking for was an excerpt from "Tanzmusik der Praetorius Zeit". (Dance music from the time of Michael Praetorius) It is an album mainly of music from a collection published by Praetorius in 1612. The album is from 1960. Crikey!!! Googled the title and year and found this excerpt on YT A very archaic interpretation. Mind you, when I was into early music, our performances in the early 80s were just as bad! Here's a more recent (90s?) approach - more the Renaissance Big Band sound by Phillip Pickett and the New London Consort. I was looking for the David Munrow version, which is early 70s and slots in between the two above. However, the LP "Michael Praetorius, Dances from Terpsichore and Motets" seems to be posted as single tracks rather than a continuous LP/CD. However, listening to it direct on YT seems to link them together! Hope there's some help in that lot! Edited May 12, 2021 by Hroth 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Sir TophamHatt said: Wasn't this piece was it? Have heard it many times but thinking the only way to figure out what it is may be a FOI request :/ Even emailed a very well renown music producer who has no idea Shazam says that is Prologue 2 by Ola Strandh It isn't but it has the same rythym structure so I wonder if the piece you posted is a 'remake' on different instruments. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Ironic placement. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium martin_wynne Posted May 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2021 More than 93% of Australians can't use an apostrophe correctly. 3 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynJPearson Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, martin_wynne said: More than 93% of Australians can't use an apostrophe correctly. Using "serve" as a noun feels painful too, unless of course you are talking about tennis. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, martin_wynne said: More than 93% of Australians can't use an apostrophe correctly. Which may or may not be accurate, but surely "it's time to get organised" and "you'll always" are grammatically correct? "Its" is the correct form for the possessive but not for it is time. Edited May 13, 2021 by Ozexpatriate 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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