trisonic Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Possibly: Â Â Â Detail: Â Â Â Â Â Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 That is a very nice looking loco there, Pete! Crackin'! It took me nearly 20 years before I could appreciate the 'different' lines of the GP30 but now I do (and I love 'em!). Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 Yeah, they have that distinctive "hunched shoulder" look. Â Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Pete, Â Lovely looking loco, but showing my ignorance of things US who's is that paint scheme? Looks great on it. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 It's the "New Hope & Ivyland RR". They run a serious shortline but also have good workshops and a tourist run which is what 2198 was working yesterday in New Hope PA. Â It's a former Reading branch and the original "woman tied to the track" line as used in the very early movie "The Perils of Pauline". New Hope is very photogenic town and situated right on the Delaware River about two hours from New York about and an hour from Philly. Â Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Thanks for that info Pete, one to add to the list of visits then if I ever get to the States.. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2011 Distinctly purty! GP30 seems to have been more successful than either its predecessor GP20 or successor GP35, both in reliability and longevity. [GP35 electrics were so bad that UP, SP and ATSF all declined to buy the successor GP40.] It also represents GM in a more corporate mode, with the automotive people having a hand in its body design, and the sales people calling the shots on the name - after Geeps 18 & 20, this should have been 22.5! But this was the outset of the HP race, so a bit of bragging was in order. Bachmann produced a GP30 in the '80s that seemed fair enough, including two version of the demonstrator, as 1962 (year) and 5639 (some sort of serial number - GP20 demos were in the 5628 area, immortalised by Tyco, who moulded the number into the number box, whatever livery GP20 you bought, it was 5628!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted September 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2011 Nice tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 Here's some photos also taken yesterday of their more serious stuff tucked away from the grockles: Â Â Â Â Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2011 ooh, close to Philly - I wonder if I could persuade my daughter to persuade her hosts in Philly to take her on a nice day trip once she gets up(?) there from Annapolis in a few weeks from now? Definitely the prettiest GP30 on the block I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 Mike, It's also one of the places where Philadelphians go to see and be seen, slap bang in the centre of Bucks County. If you're a fat cat Lawyer or CPA it's where you take your vintage, new or more usually customized Harley to hang out at the bars with your bandana - no helmet laws...........very good for Bike spotting. Upmarket. Â Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigZ Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Distinctly purty! GP30 seems to have been more successful than either its predecessor GP20 or successor GP35, both in reliability and longevity. [GP35 electrics were so bad that UP, SP and ATSF all declined to buy the successor GP40.] It also represents GM in a more corporate mode, with the automotive people having a hand in its body design, and the sales people calling the shots on the name - after Geeps 18 & 20, this should have been 22.5! But this was the outset of the HP race, so a bit of bragging was in order. Bachmann produced a GP30 in the '80s that seemed fair enough, including two version of the demonstrator, as 1962 (year) and 5639 (some sort of serial number - GP20 demos were in the 5628 area, immortalised by Tyco, who moulded the number into the number box, whatever livery GP20 you bought, it was 5628!). Â The Bachmann GP30 actually started life as...get this...Lionel, circa 1978. Seriously. It then went to Bachmann (who added the bolt details to the roof hatches and messed up the ends with oversized grabs) with a detour thru Bev Bel who sold most as shell only, but put some on modified Athearn GP35 frames when the Athearn narrow motors became available. Â That shell, and most brass models, suffer from The Fan Mistake (as dubbed by Andy Harman). The fans are spaced too far apart so that the front fan and edge of fan hatch is in front of the radiator grills...should be even with the front edge of the grills. Proto's shell corrected this. Plano also sold a stainless steel hatch of the correct length that could be used to correct the mess. Â There was an Athearn GP30 c.1964, but it's ghastly. I have one as a curiosity. Rumour has it that the die was modified to make the Athearn wide body GP35. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Ray Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Distinctly purty! GP30 seems to have been more successful than either its predecessor GP20 or successor GP35, both in reliability and longevity. [GP35 electrics were so bad that UP, SP and ATSF all declined to buy the successor GP40.] It also represents GM in a more corporate mode, with the automotive people having a hand in its body design,OTOH, the GP35 styling, especially the angular, work-day cab design (not much automotive influence there) hung on for quite a few more decades, until more or less superceded by the wide-nose cab designs common today.Clearly Its the GP30s faired rooftop area (to hold newly introduced centralized air equipment) that makes all the difference - without that sheet metal, the GP30 is basically a GP20... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilM Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I have a Proto 2k GP30 in ICG (ex GM&O) - looks pretty enough for me in an ugly duckling kinda way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2011 OTOH, the GP35 styling, especially the angular, work-day cab design (not much automotive influence there) hung on for quite a few more decades, until more or less superceded by the wide-nose cab designs common today. Clearly Its the GP30s faired rooftop area (to hold newly introduced centralized air equipment) that makes all the difference - without that sheet metal, the GP30 is basically a GP20... No question, the 35-line cab design was a great success, as you say. The GP20 in your pic is a San Bernardino-remanufactured GP20u and thus looks a bit more "cluttered" than the originals, which were rather sleek looking, as EMD's first 4-axle low-short-hood design. Interesting to recall that EMD had been in the loco business for more than 20 years before they put a turbocharger on any of their production models. I think UP did the development work on their own successful "Omaha GPs" and effectively twisted GM's arm to put them in the catalogue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 A whole slew of GP30s on US ebay and some on ebay uk too - not that purty one though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 That christmas tree on the GP30 looks distinctly Wisconsin... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouse2037 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I'm in luuurrrrve dude Awesome stuff! Â RRRoger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
signalmaintainer Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I'll give it high marks, Pete. Really nice paint scheme. Â I like GP30s anyway, and I sure do enjoy seeing them (well, they're known as GP39Es -- beefed up '30s in the same carbody) working around Seattle in the yards and occasionally on the Renton Rocket. You know, that design is going on 50 years old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 It took me nearly 20 years before I could appreciate the 'different' lines of the GP30 but now I do (and I love 'em!). No, not for me... I've never liked the GP30 look. Strangely it reminds me very much of the modification made to a few unfortunate Lancaster Bombers to give them the range for intended Far East Ops near the end of WW2, with a big fuel tank on top of the cockpit. I'll bet the crews just loved that hare-brained Boffin scheme!! Â Looks aside, it's a cracking paint job, in a very 'classic' style - how long will it stay so polished..?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 They keep 'em pretty clean over there. For a "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" see the companion thread on the C39-8 #8208 (it's the black loco just to the right of the GP 30 in one of the pictures above). That really is an "odd" locomotive - but I like them too. Â Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 yours is pretty, but I like mine better... Â Â blasting its way round the loop at Tehachapi in 2007... just spine tingling. I saw a much cleaner one the same evening, sadly after dark. Â Just noticed that in front of it is a C39-8, another humpty backed monster... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Dr. G-F. Did you my thread on the C39-8 spotted same day, same location.........???? Â Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Dr. G-F. Did you my thread on the C39-8 spotted same day, same location.........???? Â Best, Pete. Â Indeed I did - that's what made me notice the 39-8 in my pic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Kind of monstrous in a good way! Â Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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