Adam Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 From a post-war revisitation of late 19th century elegance to a 1930s vision of modernity, down on its luck. This mixed-media kit is from David J. Parkins' Flightpath range and is a 'Standard' Fordson, the first tractor for an awful lot of farms in the '30s and during the Second World War. Mostly made from whitemetal castings, it includes an etched brass front axle (a fiddle) and sundry other bits and bobs. I replaced the seat and a couple of other items through loss or preference, but it's more or less as it comes. These standard Fordsons came in green or blue, but also... bright orange: Presumably intended to show off the farmer's investment and the bold new farming future, bright orange was not exactly compatible with air raid precautions and so wartime production was a more sensible green. I like the orange, however, and the idea of a tired, faded, beaten up tractor still just about in use appealed to me. So that's where it will end up. Adam 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ullypug Posted June 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Hmm. That's got me thinking. Could you motorise this and put flanged wheels on it? The WC&P's first shunting tractor was just that. That engine casing looks about the same size as a mini motor. Is it this one? https://www.djparkins.com/product.php?productid=17995&cat=245&page=10 Edited June 13, 2018 by ullypug 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 Hmm. That's got me thinking. Could you motorise this and put flanged wheels on it? The WC&P's first shunting tractor was just that. That engine casing looks about the same size as a mini motor. Is it this one? https://www.djparkins.com/product.php?productid=17995&cat=245&page=10 Yes, that's the one. No idea about motorisation but I suspect it would require relatively significant reconstruction. The obvious place for a motor would be the gearbox/transmission tunnel, suitably bored out/replaced with brass tube - I'd choose the latter course - but I'm not sure how you'd work the drive from there. If a 2mm finescale Ruston 48DS or a 4mm narrow gauge Muir Hill Fordson can be done (as I know they have) then I'm certain it's possible! Whether it would the haul anything is moot, but wasn't that a problem for the real thing too? Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Yes, that's the one. No idea about motorisation but I suspect it would require relatively significant reconstruction. The obvious place for a motor would be the gearbox/transmission tunnel, suitably bored out/replaced with brass tube - I'd choose the latter course - but I'm not sure how you'd work the drive from there. If a 2mm finescale Ruston 48DS or a 4mm narrow gauge Muir Hill Fordson can be done (as I know they have) then I'm certain it's possible! Whether it would the haul anything is moot, but wasn't that a problem for the real thing too? Adam These small tractors were remarkably powerful, though hardly fast. I remember the wagon-works at Sandy Bridge, Llanelly, using one in conjunction with a traverser to move wagons around a very constrained system. They seemed to mainly be used to propel things, rather than haul them. We use a latter-day version of the concept to move stock around the Coquelles workshops. These will haul a train weighing 1000t plus, albeit very slowly. They have a curious system of road wheels that can be turned through 90 degrees, allowing them to move sideways off the head of a rake without using points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 Compare and contrast: So, lubricator line, blower pipe, top feed, steam feed to Westinghouse pump and vacuum ejector pipe (not fully fitted here, but it is now) and not least, the whistle (a spare box lost wax item). If you look very closely, you'll note that I've filled some misplaced/oversize holes with Milliput but any roughness is 1. very, very tiny and 2. will be hidden by clutter because on a Terrier there is nowhere else to put things like fire irons, spare lamps, headcode discs, etc. They all seem to have a bucket up there too. Adam 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 A rather simplified bit of pipework on the Dapol terrier is the Westinghouse steam lines. The pipe coming out of the cab opening to the top cylinder is actually the supply, this comes off a backhead valvle or from one of the valves over the firebox and via the governor. The pipe out of the other side of the top cylinder is the exhaust, this goes up and along the tank top then into the smokebox where it is directed up the chimney. On my Dapol model this pipe runs to a boiler steam valve hence the Westinghouse is fed live steam from both ends with no exhaust. The blower valve is actually mounted on the left side of smokebox operated by a rod through the inside of the handrail. No external pipework visible. This is correctly modelled. Details will differ according to exact prototype. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) A useful picture, full of interest, of Brighton Works at Eastleigh just prior to scrapping (and donation of the chimney to Waddon - a Marsh chimney... - and perhaps the Salter valves, too). A1X 32635 at Eastleigh Works Open Day, 7 Aug 1963 by Ian Nolan, on Flickr I could witter on at length about the features of interest here and most don't concern the loco': the single bolster may well have been a BR build and it's already in internal use, the stencil lettering on the LNER steel open is a nice feature and then we get to the loco'! Meanwhile, here's the latest update: lots of pipework, including steam heat (front easy, rear much, much less so) and vacuum pipe which is trickier because on this loco (but not on others), it wasn't quite tucked in behind the valance. Compare this with this image from Mike Morant's invaluable gallery of images: https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/SR-and-BRS/LBSCR-tank-engines/i-XTCjrdh/A Up front, there's the steam heat firmly in evidence too, along with the restraining chain (anchored, prototypically, just below the buffer) and the drain for the vac' pipe - a short length of 0.7 wire soldered as a 'T' and a bored out bit of 2mm plastic rod - the mounting bracket for a tension lock coupling lifted from a spare Parkside sprue. The upright vacuum pipes and air pipe (on the front only) themselves will have to wait until I've painted and transferred the buffer beams. Next up, a couple of oil boxes for the tank fronts and then the thickets of lamp irons, one of the most beguiling 'Brighton' features. Then I can get the brushes out again. Adam Edited June 17, 2018 by Adam 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 In the picture of the loco being scrapped at Eastleigh. Did you notice holes for buffers at 2 heights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) In the picture of the loco being scrapped at Eastleigh. Did you notice holes for buffers at 2 heights. Yes - and should have mentioned it - I can never remember whether it's the higher or lower holes that reflect a past life working motor trains. Any ideas? Adam Edited June 17, 2018 by Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I think the higher ones were for motor trains. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 Look, coppertop! Being unimpressed with metallic paint when casting around for options for the copper cap for a whitemetal chimney, I had a small epiphany when watching a timelapse video of preparation for an exhibition at the BL - why not try metal leaf? The technique is pretty simple, being exactly as it would be for signwriting - apply size, wait, wait some more and tap the leaf in place with a soft brush. I'm quite pleased... Worth sealing, I think. Adam 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) Not finished, not quite, but (very) fully liveried, yes indeed. Adam Edited June 27, 2018 by Adam 15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2018 Not finished, not quite, but (very) fully liveried, yes indeed. Terrier_50.gif Terrier_52.gif Adam Very nice, but, all that time and effort on a kettle, just think how many (much more interesting) wagons you could have sorted! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Very nice, but, all that time and effort on a kettle, just think how many (much more interesting) wagons you could have sorted! Mike. Well yes, but the blessed things won't move themselves. I have the thing marked down for a Brakevan Special (so building it is an enabling act, you see...). Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Not finished, not quite, but (very) fully liveried, yes indeed. Terrier_52.gif Adam I'm not normally desperately keen on the Brighton Terriers, but that is beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 I'm not normally desperately keen on the Brighton Terriers, but that is beautiful. Thanks - they are (for better or worse) a lot of people's idea of a 'cute' loco, a concept I don't especially like. Having acquired the base model for a song, on the strength of the paint job and memories of Gordon Gravett's 7mm version from a double-figure MRJ, I'm really pleased with the result. It's just about the only one of these 1960s pre-group/nationalisation repaints I could remotely justify making a model of though the Great Marquess would be fun, that's more your end of the world, Tim. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Not finished, not quite, but (very) fully liveried, yes indeed. Adam, I am in awe, that is one seriously excellent piece of modelling! Forgive me if it's been asked before, who's screw-link couplings have you used? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) On 29/06/2018 at 03:04, Jack P said: Adam, I am in awe, that is one seriously excellent piece of modelling! Forgive me if it's been asked before, who's screw-link couplings have you used? Thanks - well it has, but four years ago! https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-an-early-lms-brake-m806/&do=findComment&comment=1117206 The couplings are from Masokits - details of how to get them here: https://traders.scalefour.org/masokits/. Adam Edited February 25, 2019 by Adam Repairing a broken cross link to earlier in the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 Finished? Weathered, coaled and crewed (thanks to ModelU, who also made the lamps - I made the fire irons). In time there will be some headcode discs added but that's about it. It runs quite sweetly, too. Adam 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Woah, that looks fantastic, well worth the effort! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) As Mike (Enterprising Western) and probably others will be relieved to hear, having got that out of my system, back to normal business. First some finished rail carriers, one last seen like this: And now laden with track panels: Apart from the aforementioned bicycle spokes, alterations are few: the chain loops are from the Rumney Models etch for detailing Bogie Bolster Es, the buffers from Lanarkshire Model Supplies and the axleboxes on the GW pattern plate bogies from plastic sheet. Chains (20 links per inch) and shackles are from AMBIS. This is a tiding up operation - I had made a start on the panels to load this: Now the problem, of course, is that the bolster pins are in the way of this sort of load so it's been given a load of flatbottom rail. The Salmon was the solution to that problem. I'll learn to plan, one day... Still, back to works in progress. First the detailing of the Ratio Open C: Fiddly brackets. Lots of them. The Warwell bolster is almost ready for the fiddly stage - I've stuck the bolsters on the stands and temporarily loaded with a large file. Adam Edited February 25, 2019 by Adam 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tic-toc Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Finished? Terrier_53.gif Terrier_54.gif Terrier_55.gif Terrier_56.gif Weathered, coaled and crewed (thanks to ModelU, who also made the lamps - I made the fire irons). In time there will be some headcode discs added but that's about it. It runs quite sweetly, too. Adam Well done Adam! Truly astounding work and credit to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2018 Welcome back to the real world Adam!! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 And after this morning's deluge (thunder over Kent), the now complete Open C has had a flash of primer. Since the last picture it's had capping strips and irons, bolt heads and sundry other bits and bobs. I've popped the wheels back in and it's ready for livery. Adam 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Hi Adam, did I see some of the wagons featured on this thread at Highbridge at the weekend, on the Yeovil Group layout 'South junction'? cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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